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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    AGREED! (y) [this is NOT a "rapture" passage, correct!]
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...pages and pages ago. "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER" = "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age" (we are NOT being "raptured" IN ORDER TO ATTEND "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER" as though it is located UP THERE. NO!--That is NOT the PURPOSE of "our Rapture," as many...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...AGE! (the wedding FEAST / SUPPER)--Not "eliminating them from being part of" it!! NOT AT ALL! (ALL "believers" [who'd come to faith IN/DURING/WITHIN the Trib yrs (FOLLOWING "our Rapture")] will ENTER THE MK AGE / the wedding SUPPER--NONE LEFT OUT! Why are you suggesting we're saying otherwise??)
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...to my question (or 2 questions): --"WHERE" do you think we go following "the meeting of the Lord IN THE AIR"? --"WHEN" do you believe "our Rapture" takes place (in relation to the Trib years)? [I thought you earlier said "pre-Satan's-wrath" i.e. MID-trib/Pre-Wrath... something along those...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...of a different poster/member and confusing you with him. It's possible.) Aren't you the one who holds to a "mid-trib [pre-Satan's-wrath] rapture"-timing? If so, doesn't that mean that you believe we'll be "caught up" around MID-trib (when there are 1260 days remaining to His Second Coming...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    So you believe "G726 - ἁρπαγησόμεθα - harpagēsometha " is not a biblical doctrine, ... and thus not worthy of discussion here? I see... ( :unsure: )
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...on the earth, to unfold upon it, OVER SOME TIME [i.e the '7 yrs']--NOT referring here to "hell"!!); i.e. [salvation/deliverance] via "our Rapture," which he does not merely speak about IN ONE VERSE ONLY (1Th4:17 ALONE), as many suppose, but refers to it something like 8-10 times in these two...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...passage is NOT referencing "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY"); EVERYTHING in the text from 24:4 onward is talking about things FOLLOWING "our Rapture" (the Olivet Discourse NOWHERE is covering the Subject of "our Rapture," but things surrounding His Second Coming TO THE EARTH, FOR the promised...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    That's very big of you, and I appreciate you hearing me out and following up by investigating it. = ) Thank you both for clarifying your positions and correcting any misunderstandings between you. I appreciate this very much. = ) [let me just add... it is a very easy thing on discussion...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Aren't you BOTH ones who hold to the "pre-trib" position on the matter of "our Rapture"? Or have I mis-read you? Maybe I have, in this instance? I'm stymied by your recent "back-and-forths"... lol
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Yesterday, Musicmaster "Liked" (and I assume "agreed" with) your Post #2097 ( https://christianchat.com/threads/there-will-be-no-rapture.212356/post-5314491 ), because (as I assume--by what I've read of each of your Posts) at that point you two were both "on the same page" (correct me if I'm...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...death will be much more rare and will be reserved only for the rebellious); but "saints ONLY" are who will ENTER the MK age (i.e. "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER") when it commences upon His "RETURN" to the earth, Rev19 [several things, here, are problematic for the "post-trib Rapture" viewpoint]
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...MEAL [G347; see also Mt8:11 and parallel=the MK age]". It is "the MARRIAGE" which pertains solely to the Church ("the Church which is His body"--aka the presently-"betrothed" Bride/Wife [singular], 2Cor11:2). IOW, "our Rapture" is NOT for the purpose of "wedding SUPPER / FEAST" UP...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...to come" Matt12:32 had just spoken about). IOW, "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" (v.24) is speaking of that. The CONTEXT is not about "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]" (which is revealed and explained ELSEWHERE). The disciples' LATER question to Jesus (in Matt24:3) was BASED ON what He had...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...Rev19:7 and 19:9!); 3) Paul ALSO, in his 2Th1 & 2 chpts, tells of the TWO OPPOSITE "beliefs" people WILL BE coming to FOLLOWING "our Rapture"--so the "a great multitude... of all the nations" [besides the 144,000 of Israel, etc] being a number that no one can count can certainly be [among]...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    ...commencement of the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom age (aka "the wedding FEAST / SUPPER") [note: this is not a full list of ALL that will transpire (future)... just what is included in the Olivet Discourse portions!! (which NOWHERE covers the Subject of "our Rapture"!)]
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    Thanks for clarifying. So, are you saying you believe her "dream" is DESCRIBING "Pre-Wrath OF SATAN" instead (instead of "POST-trib Rapture")? ...and are you saying you agree with her description (i.e. that her "dream" was from God / is Truth)?
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    And some of us already pointed out to you (wasn't it also in this thread?) that Margaret Macdonald's dream described a POST-trib Rapture!! (NOT "PRE-") Nobody is listening to M. MacDonald! Hello! (i.e. Darby did not get his ideas FROM HER!) She was a disciple of E. Irving (an...
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    There will be no Rapture!!!

    But "Darby" was not the "source" of the doctrine of the Pre-trib Rapture. More than one person in this Thread has pointed out people WELL-BEFORE "Darby" who [also] DISTINGUISHED (time-wise) between our "Rapture" and Christ's "Second Coming [to the earth]". So how can "Darby" have possibly...
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    The Day and Hour Unknown

    This is my postion. (y) PRE-trib Rapture of "the Church which is His body" [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence)]