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    Salvation is more than justification?

    According to Paul in Romans 3 one is justified by believing in Jesus' propitiation for our sins. A cursory reading of what he's saying might lead one to believe that this is all that is necessary to be saved, but if we're to take Christ's words seriously one must also do the will of the Father...
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    new to the platform

    Hey, ShyGuy, welcome to CC.
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Yes, Paul seems to be making the point that sin can be overcome by walking in the spirit. He doesn't end what he's saying after he explains his struggle with sin.
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    Bear in mind, this is the same Paul who wrote, "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." Paul struggled with sin, as we all do, but he was not completely under it's control like someone might...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    I think you're assigning too much to Paul's words here to characterize him as expressing "slavery to sin". A slave has no freedom of their own, to be a slave to something means you're at it's whim - being a slave to sin is not how scripture describes the believer in Christ. When someone believes...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    No one who is begotten of God is a slave to Satan, and we shouldn't be slaves to sin either, depending on what you mean. Jesus came to free us from sin. That we still sin on occasion is a failing, but we can be forgiven and move on. The hallmark of a Christian life should be holiness, though...
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    OSAS, When does salvation take place?

    Hebrews 10:26 is clear that willful sin results in there being no more sacrifice for sin, unless of course you read it differently. Paul wrote the unrighteous won't inherit the kingdom of God. Clearly there is some sort of way in which the Christian must live in order to be saved. If you're not...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    "I find a law that when I desire to do good, evil is present with me." It sounds like he's talking about moments where his flesh gets the better of him, not sin where he's doing it willfully. There's nuance to what he's saying, he's not saying it's ok to sin in general, he's saying, quite...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    I doubt he's describing a pattern of willful sin. He is probably describing one off sins. Willful sin is sinning with abandon, like making a habit of doing something sinful and then rationalizing to yourself how there's no issue with it. You can sin in a one off way where it's not willful, such...
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    Hello!

    Hey Lewis, welcome. :)
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    Need to ask

    It seems to be a unique fruit: of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, also unique. There's no indication that it was a common fruit or the tree it came from was a common tree.
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    As for what Paul wrote, the struggle with sin is still real. Ever been asked for money and said no, and then had to repent and lend the money because Jesus says to give to those who ask? Yeah, you were unable to do the good you wanted (all time times you knew it was right to lend money) and...
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    Does Hebrews 10 say if we willfully sin after being saved there is no more forgiveness?

    There is no sacrifice for someone who is willfully sinning, the language is crystal clear. I think it's important to remember the parable of the Prodigal Son though. I think someone can sin willfully and repent from this and be forgiven. All that being said though, John writes that the believer...
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    Can you be saved by your own goodness/(righteousness)?

    Practically, no, because we have all sinned and deserve condemnation. We need Jesus' sacrifice for our sin. We're called to be perfect though by Christ and to live righteously. We can't slack in this calling as it is made clear in the NT that the unrighteous won't inherit the kingdom of God...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    Ok, I'm willing to believe that salvation is attained solely by belief in Jesus (in his death to take the punishment for our sins, his burial, and resurrection) and then through sanctification we must follow Jesus' commands (the logic is a little iffy to me), but how is repenting not a work? It...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    What you can infer from John's writings in 1 John is that "believing in him" includes believing his words, which would necessitate following them. Jesus wasn't contradicting himself when he said later on in John: John 8:51 King James Version 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    1 John 5:20 King James Version 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. So eternal life is being in the Son, and we...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    1 John 2:1-6 King James Version 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    If you read Jesus' words carefully in Matthew 7 you will see he is telling people you must do the will of the Father to enter into the kingdom of heaven, and that he is correlating the will of the Father with his sayings. Matthew 7:21-24 King James Version 21 Not every one that saith unto me...
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    Ephesians 2 is not preaching faith alone.

    It's the faith in Jesus that saves me, because of the faith I will respond to his words, so I'm saved through faith, and am a creation in Christ Jesus unto good works. These are works I must do though as someone who believes Jesus' words. They're not optional, so in a sense it is salvation...