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So you must think that a man doing the same job as a woman should be paid more than the woman simply for having a Y-chromosome. What a backwards and disgusting attitude you have.

No, Adam was not given authority over Eve. Eve was told that, as a result of what she did, her husband would rule over her. It's a statement of certain consequence, not a statement of authority. Look at it this way: why would God, Who is good, give now-sinful man authority over anything, let...

Actually, I generally stay out of threads on that topic, including that one. It's just not an issue that concerns me. :)

It's not a comment on the length of the opening post, but on the variety and vehemence of the responses... as in "popcorn for munching while I sit back and watch the drama unfold. It's a somewhat common metaphor used on this site. :)

I'm considering making a pot of popcorn for this thread. :cool:

I know you have trouble with reading comprehension, but try not to be an idiot.

"Arrogant" and "misogynist" are perhaps better terms for such people. They don't necessarily "hate" women, but consider them at least slightly inferior to themselves and to men in general. Further, they typically consider anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do in all things spiritually...

You're doing the same thing to him that you did to me: not reading carefully and jumping to ridiculous, unwarranted conclusions.

"The husband is the head of the wife" is a better translation and doesn't open up the ridiculous interpretation that all men are the head over all women. I look forward to the day when some "Christian" misogynist tries to be the "head" over my wife....

Paul did not "expand the scope"; his words to Timothy were in a completely different context and had no relationship to the words attributed to him from 1 Corinthians 14. Hogwash and codswollop. There are no "betters" among Christians. It's "Deborah", not "Debbie". Maybe try not to be...

None of which has any bearing whatsoever on this topic.

You aren't paying attention to what I'm saying. Instead, you are yelling, repeating yourself, and completely misrepresenting my position. There's no point in trying to communicate with you when you refuse to 'listen'.

I have no argument with you. ;)

I always knew "cowlick" had an original meaning. ;)

While it's true that being made in the image of God does not make man into God, the above loudly implies a lower status for women than men. The above is nothing but religious-sounding misogyny. Eve did not go "off-reservation"; she was deceived. Eve was never charged with sin in the Bible...

You feel what you feel, but your assessment is completely incorrect. I am disagreeing with you because I am confident that your position is wrong and warrants refutation. Cite one "basic statement" that you think I "can't acknowledge". Rabbit hole? This topic has important and lasting...

I know Webers.Home won't see this (he has me on Ignore because I disagree with him), but for anyone else who reads these threads and actually cares about sound hermeneutics: he's wrong and his reasoning is faulty. Seniority and primogeniture have nothing to do with male-female relations. Yes...

I should have read more carefully earlier; Clement and Aquila are males. Chloe and Priscilla are probably the names you meant.

Where is the bolded part in Scripture? I'm well aware of that, thanks. :)

Was there something you intended to add here?