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  1. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Again, you are making this say something that, in context, it is not saying. This would be equivalent to saying "I passed my driving test at 16... and my friend George passed it just as I did" It doesn't mean we both answered the test questions in exactly the same way, or made every turn and...
  2. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I think you are misunderstanding what he is saying. He's not describing HOW they received the Spirit, he's simply saying that they all DID receive the Spirit. We received the Spirit, and these elders received the Spirit, and now these Gentiles received the Spirit. It's not saying HOW, it's...
  3. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    The story that Peter gave as the definitive answer to the question of "what do we, as sinners, need to do to repent from our sins and be saved?" That instruction was established at Pentecost, and is the understood/assumed beginning of joining the body of Christ. All other discussions of...
  4. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    again, for the 150th time (at least) The story of Cornelius' family is NOT the norm. It was a one-time happening, for a SPECIFIC purpose. It happened so that the Jewish Christians would see for themselves that Gentiles were accepted by God, and that they (Jewish Christians) should NOT prevent...
  5. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Not buying that story at all....
  6. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I guess this is the answer to my question..... So, when Peter, at Pentecost, told the gathering that had asked him what they should do, to repent, and be baptized for the forgiveness of sins, THEN they would receive the Holy Spirit.... how does that match your narrative? It sounds...
  7. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    How do you get baptized in the Spirit? Where is that described in scripture?
  8. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    word for the week...... "conflating" Use this word in a sentence at least twice a day this week. :ROFL::LOL::cool: just yankin' your chain, bro...
  9. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    because that's what it is. We are baptized for forgiveness for our sins, which gives us a clear conscience... he compared it to how Noah's family was "cleansed" from sinful mankind by the washing away of sin (sinners) in the waters of the flood. "baptism, which corresponds to this, (the...
  10. hornetguy

    AS CHRISTIANS, ARE WE ALLOWED TO WEAR A CROSS?

    In our times, where people wear football jerseys to show their allegiance to "their team", or rings that signify their membership of a group like the Masonic Lodge, or shirts/jackets with the Harley Davidson logo on them, wearing a cross would seem to be almost expected for believers. It's...
  11. hornetguy

    AS CHRISTIANS, ARE WE ALLOWED TO WEAR A CROSS?

    I wear a small silver cross. James Avery. It was supposedly his first design, back in 1954, I think. That was a good year. It hangs inside my shirt, so most of the time it's not visible.... but I know it's there. It was a gift from my two daughters and son.
  12. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I'm sure Peter made mistakes, and they were clearly shown in scripture to be mistakes... the same way King David made mistakes... but scripture is clear to point out those as mistakes... Peter's preaching at Pentecost is the inspired word of God... no mistakes there.
  13. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Are you really that thick? Or are you so married to your false belief that you simply cannot see what is plainly stated? You sound just like Slick Willy..... "well, it depends on what the definition of 'is' is...... " Good grief. Plain speaking.... 38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and...
  14. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Thank you for your prayers.... if you were sincere. I don't believe in WORKING for salvation. I believe in obeying God's will, to the best of my ability. Salvation was bought and paid for by Jesus....
  15. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    Scripture disagrees with you....
  16. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    The problem with that approach is that Peter, at Pentecost, did not tell the crowd to repent, then make a choice whether to be baptized. They asked the question... "men and brethren, what must we do?" Peter's answer..... "repent and be baptized...." no choice offered or suggested...
  17. hornetguy

    John 3 and Water Baptism in the Ministry of Jesus Christ

    I think the question is, do you believe something and don't do (obey)..... hint..... the demons even do that.....
  18. hornetguy

    AS CHRISTIANS, DO WE HAVE TO GO TO CHURCH?

    see post #14