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Good question. It means that God was nowhere to be seen. The Church was the light on the hill, and they'd left.

Hi my brother, It is the separation of the Church from apostate Israel. That was the Churches in Judea escaping from Judea to beyond the Jordan. In the case of the churches outside Judea, it involved the Christian part of the synagogue not going up to Jerusalem for the feast.

Think of it this way Jackson: The final appearance of Christ, "The Rapture", will be an event seen (and experienced), for better of for worse, by all mankind Matthew 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man...

No. The rapture is a big day in the future

Yes, that is correct.

It is them though, not the city J123

I am really short on time so I don't have time for aggressive ignorant people who can't even redact Strongs without making spelling mistakes. I don't think you and I belong on the same thread somehow...

Ok, if you are looking for scriptural proof, then I will stick to prophecy. Jesus returned at the destruction of Judea and Jerusalem, the end of that age. Quite a few scriptures to chose from 2 Thessalonians 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed...

What verse says Jesus was crucified in AD33?

I see you have made lots of posts, all full of ranty stuff. I offer you 3 questions, my time is precious. I think I am going to find it hard to repeat myself over and over, but we'll give it a go.

Well are you saying that Paul was lying? That seems to be where you are headed 1 Colossians 15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

FreeG You said Why?

Parousia means presence, not 'appearing'.

I wasn't really thinking of Paul. Jesus appeared to the disciples 40 days Then he came in AD 70 He will appear again when he returns for the Church

You asked: So how many time after Jesus go to heaven He coming to earth? There is a difference between appearing and coming. I hesitate to throw numbers around, but Paul tells us of two appearances. If we add the Lord coming in AD70, that would makes 3 Comings after Jesus went to heaven.

I have no idea. Maybe many. Genesis 28: 12And he (Jacob) dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it I know there are Christians who say they have personally spoken with Jesus, and who am I...

Yes, but that is a completely different coming. A very visible event. We are talking here about an event in which neither the Father nor the Son are visible

It's a very good point that you make. 9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. 10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said...

One of the things we know about God is that he is invisible, and that Jesus shares the father's characteristics. Romans 1: 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so...

You seem to have added something extra-scriptural here. You say: Jesus came back to earth But that is not correct. Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him There is no mention of 'back to earth', you've simply added in your own understanding here. If you...