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I've always been a big fan of the Book of Acts. especially, when Peter understands that God is now Welcoming the Gentiles. which, brings us to the Roman Centurion, Cornelius, who an Angel visited him and caused him to send for the Apostle Peter. and when Peter shows up, Cornelius, tells Peter...

I am not talking about once saved. You are only Saved one time and everyone believes that. We're not even talking about the act of first being Saved at all.

God is behind both Actions! that is WHO is calling the shots here ;)

Ezekiel 38 is about invading Israel [Gog and Magog] Revelation is after the 1,000 year Reign and [Gog and Magog] attack God Himself 1 is a literal WAR the other is joining forces to DECEIVE people away from God. try understanding what you read.

The first wave of reformist theologians include Huldrych Zwingli (1484–1531), Martin Bucer (1491–1551), Wolfgang Capito (1478–1541), John Oecolampadius (1482–1531), and Guillaume Farel (1489–1565). Calvinism is considered the enforcer of the Reformed tradition. Nov 19, 2022 so Calvin is why...

i am my own person. trust me, i am alone here. if people were ran off because of me, it's because, they were tired of being proven wrong. you made a broad statement about knowing people based upon their side of the 2 Scriptural references you provided. i wondered if you were professing...

i don't care, seriously, what you say concerning Calvin. the Doctrine that exists, existed when Calvin and Armini took their sides and from there on, 2 specific viewpoints were what people gleaned from. so, had NO ONE brought it up, like what those 2 did, i am willing to bet, what is on this...

But what is to say they would have concluded what they have without Calvin? He really is the foundation for this specific viewpoint no matter how many excuses you continue to make.

there's the architect of the Doctrine and then the disciples that spin it for their own personal beliefs. that's what we have here. so, it's still the same doctrine being passed around here.

we are in error because we present a Scripture that the ENTIRE CONTENT is ALL about the Holy Spirit. but we then dissect that Verse for our sole purpose. there's a Reason why God included BOTH PARTS in the SAME VERSE. but, the OP, wants us to ignore that fact. i choose never to ignore the OBVIOUS!!

i am debating. i am debating the fact where this Doctrine came from. and i am debating, knowing where it came from, then all subjective points relating to the Doctrine + specific Scriptures used, like the meaning of Disobedience, must be included.

i will show you who is in Control. much like Trump clarifying Jerusalem as rightful Capitol of Israel, Biden, permitted the HAMAS/ISRAEL War to continue. factual headlines within 2 hours of one another: UN Security Council Voting On Ceasefire As Israel-Hamas Clashes Intensify US Vetos UN...

what i understand is there is only 1 Doctrine, and each Denomination has turned one Doctrine into multiple Versions. they became Pharisees, Saduccees, Scribes over the Gospel, much like they did over the One Mosaic Law. So, everyone, is in error.

do you understand why i responded the way i did?

lol pass something around as gospel with a disclaimer that states "Video has been digitally altered to suggest Obama admitted he was born in Africa" :ROFL::ROFL::LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFL::ROFL:

then their views should match mine. my views are both Reformed and Not. so far, in this conversation, people are only 1 of the 2, not both.

no, i give Credit to the Shepherds God placed in my Path, so, i would have to question both and discover the truth independently.

you are new here. you don't know which side is up or down around here, unless, you've been here before as someone else.

only if you are a person who can think independently. most people who are born as a baby to parents in the Church, are then raised in it, continue in it, never form a real concrete belief based upon their own understanding, but, the understanding of the Doctrine. i would have been that same way...

Our lives are not our own if we are truly bought and paid for by Christ's Works upon the Cross.