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Tell us now. What does exactly 2 Thess 2:4 mean. We know what you believe its not, tell us what it is

As Somedisciple asked. Why not? I think it can only be referring to a physical building because of the connection to Mark 13, seeing the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not to be. Even if we were to concede that you are correct and the AoD already occured, it would still lead...

Ah I see. I guess you could view it that way, but other verses indicate a temple standing at the end times: Revelation 11:1-2 2 Thessalonians 2:4 Not to mention even if it's just talking about Jerusalem being surrounded (similar circumstances to the AOD with Antiochus) it still would not have...

Is Jesus blinded in part? This is a great doctrine that Christ is the "fulfillment" of Israel, in that Matthew says His Son was called from Egypt, the same verse originally applied to Israel now applied to Christ. Jesus was tested in the wilderness and passed the test. All of these...

No the reason there has to be another temple is cause immediately after the tribulation that the abomination of desolation sets off Jesus will return. Since He did not in AD70, it wasnt about that. Plus, in AD70, by the time you saw the abomination of desolation it was too late to escape...

It is true that we are the spiritual temple, I notice you quoted Revelation 11:19 which talks about the temple in heaven, but did not quote Revelation 11:1-2 which talks about another temple that is NOT in heaven.

Why would Jesus talk about the abomination of desolation as a future event if it was fulfilled before His birth? How could anyone in the future see the abomination of desolation take place?

Islam is a demonic system there is no doubt about it and they will be playing a major part in the last days when it comes to attacking and surrounding Israel. When it comes to the man of sin, I doubt he will be a devout muslim, jew or christian because in all these faiths, proclaiming...

What do you believe it is then? It has to be something that happens about 3,5 years prior to the Lord's return. Cannot be AD70 fulfillment, cause the Lord comes back immediately after the tribulation which is set in motion by the Abomination of Desolation

It is when the man of sin enters the temple of God and proclaims Himself to be God. Historically speaking, Antiochus is a type of the antichrist and he sacrificed a pig in the temple and erected a statue of Zeus. That is a picture of the future abomination of desolation which will occur.

It definitely is part of the Gospel, it is the second step: Matthew 28:19-20 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you...

We agree here. I know you would agree with me that yes, the book of Revelation is full of symbols and its symbolic, but symbolic of what is the question. Praise the Lord, He has given us the symbols decoded within the book itself. Just like the dreams of Joseph, yeah they were symbolic, but...

What I always found remarkable about this verse is it plainly tells you the number, then tells you to calculate it. There is a false prophet in the Bible, the last descendant of a man, 666th descendant, his name is Shemaiah the Nehelamite. If you calculate his number it would be 425. That...

The preterist tends to laugh at ideas of a rebuilt temple, they know better, it all happened in AD70, the abomination of desolation, all of it........... or did it actually? If you read the gospels you will find out that the abomination of desolation is connected to the worst tribulation period...

The true Christians should leave the babylon churches, come out from them and fellowship together. Let the churchianity play their church games. I have found house churches to be full of people who are truly Christians, I have found small prayer gatherings to be the same.

The 7000 years of history theory was held by many people in ancient history. I have also noticed we are knocking on the door of the final 1000 years, which would be the sabbath of creation: the 1000 years of Revelation 20. We are close, I am not dogmatic that the theory is correct because No...

I can see Him choosing not to remember certain things, like our sins. So why not the same with foreknowledge? Why would He do such a thing is a different matter.

Sorry I didn't mean to be snarky. I apologize for that. My point was that how can that which is second in order be considered the first? I see what you are getting at. This form of pre-trebbism is logical. If I understood your view correctly, you would say the Church is in heaven during the...

Lord will not put His people thru the wrath, its for the unbelievers just like the plagues in Egypt. The people who populate the millennium kingdom if you believe in one, would be in Zechariah 14: "Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year...

Just think about this: "The dead in Christ rise first, then we are raptured. But only those in Christ.......... NOT the OT saints. They will be raised up at the first resurrection. Wait what? So the 2nd resurrection is the first? Those who are in Christ are raised PRIOR to the tribulation...