1 world 3 earth ages

[kleronomos]

The earth was null and void of life but after the true light shines, the earth can be inhabited.

OF LIFE? Is that just something you added on your own or it that written somewhere because that little addition REALLY CHANGES WHAT IS WRITTEN, doesn't it?


AGAIN, HE SAYS He did NOT create it that way.

There is nothing you nor I can say or figure, no excuse, idea or thought, no adding of time, no subtracting of time no anything that changes THAT FACT. WHAT IS WRITTEN is what is written.

What we believe does not change what GOD SAID.

GOD SAID I didn't NOT CREATE it TOHU VA BOHU.

Genesis says the state of it WAS/BECAME TOHU VA BOHU

Those are the FACTS THAT we have no choice BUT to accept. OUR CHOICE at this point is to EITHER go and try and find every way possible to try and make that GO AWAY

OR

go and SEEK OUT in the other words of God things that EITHER CONFIRM or DENY. When I did just that, I kept finding things that fit perfectly and eliminated a ton of confusion and gave answers to questions nothing and no one had ever been able to do before and NOTHING that rendered it void. What SCRIPTUREs are you using?

As of now

1. I don't have to make up any reasons why or how SATAN was in the garden.

2. I KNOW what GOD MEANT when He said 'I knew you before' you were in the womb

3. I have no questions as to why some people were/are 'pre destined' and/or fore ordained.

4. I don't need outside 'wisdom' or spiritual meaning for the sons of God WATCHING the earth created

5. I don't HAVE TO disregard WHAT MY EYES plainly tell me about the age of this earth and the universe around me.

6. I don't question the time of the SUDDEN DESTRUCTION that left the earth with NO MAN, NO BIRDS, NO SUN

7. I don't have any questions about HOW 'the last days' could begin 2000 years ago, or this be the end of ages, plural.

8. I understand why we all look different when it was said Let us make man in our image.

I can go on but I don't believe it would matter any how. IF it isn't what you believe right now, then it CAN'T really BE TRUTH, can it? WHAT would be helpful would be to hear the SCRIPTURE you have found that VOIDS out the things listed above, because short of that, I don't think anyones' THOUGHTS are going to do much good.

 

[kleronomos]

There's no telling HOW MANY creations there have been on this dirt ball before the Adamic creation. 6000 years or so ago.

JUST pondering here but

maybe, if I had to guess, my guess would be would be 7 previous based upon

Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.


And I think it would be a 'different' planet all together (another galaxy) for more than that because




Psalm 102:24 I said, O my God, take me not away in the midst of my days: thy years are throughout all generations.

Psalm 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Psalm 102:26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:

Psalm 102:27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

Psalm 102:28 The children of thy servants shall continue, and their seed shall be established before thee.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Keep on coming, I'll be here, and I have studied to show myself approved. HERE is you very first problem

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


Does that earth that is without form and void IN GEN 1 IN ANY WAY RESEMBLE
THE EARTH that GOD formed, and made, and established, AND created NOT in vain, but created to be inhabited IN ISAIAH 45?


WHEN GOD created the earth, THE SONS OF GOD WATCHED. THEY were SPIRITUAL because there was NO EARTH to be formed of, WAS THERE?

SO MUCH FOR NATURAL BEFORE SPIRITUAL. YOU obviously are giving those words a meaning GOD DIDN'T GIVE THEM.



Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING SO FAR that makes you think of the earth being null and void and without light and darkness upon the deep?

Job 38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

DO YOU SEE the thick darkness coming in BEFORE THE LIGHT? As you are reading what GOD IS SAYING are you seeing this happening in 'darkness' or does your minds eye see it in the LIGHT OF GOD?

Job 38:10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

Job 38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?



Job 38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

Job 38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

Job 38:15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?



When you get done figuring out how to get around all that, GO TO THE HEBREW and look at the WORDS because when you do make it to the ORIGINAL language, you will find it IMPOSSIBLE to make it say ANYTHING ELSE.

lol alrighty

So this God

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it,He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.”

Didn’t say this ?

“The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


it seems like if one were to just read the Bible and accept what’s in there it sort of just has a cohesive story that we’re supposed to believe

Sort of basic and simple but not if we go in a huge Circle and avoid what it plainly says

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬


instead of trying to figure out why Peter doesn’t understand we’re meant to learn from what he’s saying rather than try to construct a different thing can you acknowledge what Peter is saying there ?

it’s not a one off it’s doctrine

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭

one is gone another comes forth teo creations this one

“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

is this one

“the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.”

it’s basic stuff where do you think the lake of fire comes from ? When Jesus returns

“and to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1:7-9‬ ‭

That’s the first creations destination the fire of Christs return

again this isn’t even a mystery if one reads scripture and believes rather than re constructing thkngs to fit our own thoughts

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:


for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬

passed away , no longer remembered

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭

not even to cross the mind again

“Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them. They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭48:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬


we’re meant to acknolwedge what we learn from scripture like form instance the basic fundamental point of one creation that’s doomed and cursed by its creator because of sin

and another creation that’s not of this world a new heaven and earth after this one is passed away based solely on Jesus promises of eternal Life the world will end the gospel will endure

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:35‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God created this world he’s also sworn by himself to end this world d give believers a better world a new one not corrupt with sin and death

but you know if I were attending your seminary you’d be right about everything your saying and have a lot of strong infallible points but I’m not

 

[kleronomos]

So this God

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God Himself that formed the earth and made it; He hath established it,He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.”

Didn’t say this ?

“The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Absolutely He did say that. What is the point you are trying to make? This is yet future, THE EARTH has already been formed and the TRANSGRESSION shall be heavy upon it again so, I don't understand the connection between these two verses you are trying to make. Could you explain?

“but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.


Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:7, 10, 13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

AGAIN, FUTURE. We are speaking to the FIRST age, the one they are WILLINGLY IGNORANT OF, THE ONE BEFORE THIS AGE.

PLEASE don't try and bring up the FLOOD of Noahs time like that is a separation of AGES because WE AREN'T IGNORANT about anything from IN the BEGINNING up until then. WE know EXACTLY what happened from THAT BEGINNING up until now.

No we are talking about the age that ENDED SUDDENLY, the one that caused the earth to become tohu va bohu, when there was NO MORE MAN, NO BIRD, NO BRANCH and would be no more dinosaurs for that matter. FUNNY how much the bible agrees with the fossil evidence, when we allow it to.

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth:

and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭

Then I am willing to bet you ALREADY KNOW how that BRAND NEW AGE going to start.


IN THE BEGINNING.....God created the heavens and the earth....

not even to cross the mind again

“Thou hast heard, see all this; and will not ye declare it? I have shewed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them. They are created now, and not from the beginning; even before the day when thou heardest them not; lest thou shouldest say, Behold, I knew them.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭48:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

NOTHING new under the sun, WHAT has been will be,

Isaiah 48:2 For they call themselves of the holy city, and stay themselves upon the God of Israel; The LORD of hosts is his name.

Isaiah 48:3 I have declared the former things from the beginning; and they went forth out of my mouth, and I shewed them; I did them suddenly, and they came to pass.

Jeremiah 4:20 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment.

not some getting ready and building an ark and it starting to rain KIND OF DESTRUCTION

Jeremiah 4:21 How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet?

Jeremiah 4:22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

Jeremiah 4:23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

Jeremiah 4:24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

Jeremiah 4:25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

Jeremiah 4:26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.

Jeremiah 4:27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

Jeremiah 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it.


What is it we read FROM THE VERY BEGINNING????

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

but you know if I were attending your seminary you’d be right about everything your saying and have a lot of strong infallible points but I’m not

Then it's TOO BAD you are not attending MY SEMINARY BECAUSE it is not of this world as THE WORDS OF GOD, the Holy Spirit, putting HIM above everything and everyone in my life everyday, staying in the word, with prayer and pondering upon His words and BEING PATIENT while waiting for HIM to lead and guide me to truth is the only kind of 'seminary' I would ever attend but in answer to your question

I am not now, nor have I ever been in a seminary. How about you? Are you in a seminary? Have you ever been? What denomination are you? No need to answer as none of that matters to me. I find those types of questions are more about division than the words of God, don't you?

 

[Mem]

The crux of this perspective is that the sons of God are angels, and so are old(er than) the stars? However, if the truth is that the stars are no older than man, or only a few days older, then it is possible that the sons of God is mankind who "shouted" in relative unison with the stars upon their creation (in which is at a time that corresponds with the foundation of the earth).

 

[kleronomos]

I have created a crystal ball for you. I took a piece of glass and cut the facets and made it to perfectly part the light and send prisms all around you and have polished it all up and It is accomplished.

In the beginning I created the light and the crystal ball

And the crystal ball became/was all scratched up and darkness was upon the crystal ball.

And I said let there be light.


anyone?

 

[SomeDisciple]

Be on the lookout for the blowhards that say I have the word of God.

But do make sure they don't actually have the word of God before calling them "blowhard".

I heard a Calvary Chapel pastor on the radio read the book of Job verse by verse and he completely butchers it where Elihu is concerned.

If you think Elihu is some punk-kid running his mouth, you missed the point of the book.

 

[Inquisitor]

The crux of this perspective is that the sons of God are angels, and so are old(er than) the stars? However, if the truth is that the stars are no older than man, or only a few days older, then it is possible that the sons of God is mankind who "shouted" in relative unison with the stars upon their creation (in which is at a time that corresponds with the foundation of the earth).

Probably poetic verses.

 

[oyster67]

Why is it so hard to understand that there is a difference between world and earth in the bible.

Maybeeeee...... because......there isn't any????

I understand that we call Mars and Venus other worlds, but I don't see how that causes confusion when relating to the Bible.

 

[oyster67]

He was nothing but a bag full of hot air; He was like a lot of pastors today as God was giving a warning to Job that same warning is for us today. Be on the lookout for the blowhards that say I have the word of God. Make sure they are not an Elihu or like the other two “friends” but really do come with the truth.

I suggest you reread that section about Elihu. I believe he was the fourth man, and he was not a "blowhard."

Job 32

1So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. 3Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job. 4Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. 5When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled. 6And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion. 7I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.

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[Thewatchman]

Ezekiel 28​

Prophecy against the Prince of Tyre ​

Verse 1. The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

Make sure that you keep this in mind as we read this; Who's word is this? The Lords. Ezekiel is writing as God is speaking.

Verse 2.Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

Tyrus in the Hebrew means rock. Not our rock but there rock. Who is the false rock Satan. His heart is lifted up He is proud, He has said I am God, I set in the seat of God. What does God say to Him “to Me you are but a man you may thank you are more but you are not. I have already sentenced you to death.” The man of sin will exalt himself above all that is called God, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.

Verse 3. Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

Danial was 10 times wiser than any of king Nebuchadnezzar's wise men and magicians

This show just how wise he is and he knows the scriptures and will twist them just a bit to throw you off. You must be trained up in the word. For Satan is looking to make a meal of your soul.

1st Peter 5:6 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Verse 4.With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

It is through his cunning and deceitful ways that he “Satan” will be able to come in at the end as Danial says in 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Verse 5. By thy great wisdom and by thy traffic hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

By his great wisdom his trading, buying, selling and deception. He will become the richest, person in the world richer than the nations. This is how he will be able to step in heal the deadly wound bring everyone together around him. He will be saying I have come to pay off all your debts, money for everybody, a T Bone on every grill, the car of your dreams in the driveway of your free home; and all you have to do is follow after me.

Verse 6. Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; Because you have said I am God.

Remember just who we are talking about here. We are talking about the Devil, Satan, Lucifer. There was a time when He tried to over throw the throne of God. We will get into that in a bit; just keep it in mind.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!


O Morning Star,
הֵילֵ֣ל (hê·lêl)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 1966: Lucifer = 'light-bearer' 1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer 1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.) 2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon

All of this is taking place on earth during the last days before the return of Christ.

Revelation12:

7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

[Thewatchman]

Part two

Verse7.Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

These "strangers" from all the nations are all the men and women of God that will stand and prophecy against Satan and his system, and expose him for the fake he is. The sword that these "strangers will use is the Word of God. Christ's tongue, or words written in our Bible, is the sword that will be used. The people of God will have the cloven tongue, in which, when the Holy Spirit speaks through them it will be like it was in Acts 2, on the day of Pentecost. Then every man will hear in his own language and dialect, the words that are spoken.

Verse 8.They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

Satan and his system will not look so good when the Holy Spirit reveals Satan to the world. When the elect of God are speaking, all mankind will hear in their own language, and there will be no need for an interpreter to understand what is said. It is at this time only that you can ever commit the unpardonable sin, but none of God's elect will do that, because they know the truth. (I thank)
The "pit" is where Satan is going to be taken at the end of this earth age; at the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. The "death" is the death of the souls in the lake of fire, at the end of the Millennium age, following judgment.

As you can see from these last two verses God's people his elect will have a very important part in the end of this 2nd earth age going into the millennium and beyond.

Verse 9. Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

Satan do you thank you can stand before God and say “I am God”; No yo will not! You are only a man. At this time Satan is the only one sentenced to death; not even the fallen angles that left there first habitation( Jude) they are being held for sentencing but that sentence has not been handed down. The first prophecy of the bible sentences Satan to death. Genesis 3:15 I will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her Seed; It shall bruise thy head, and you shall bruise His heal.

Verse 10: Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

When shall this take place? It will start on the very first day of the millennium satin will be bound and thrown into the pit for a 1000 years; then he will be set loose for a short season to see if he can deceive any more people. God puts an end to his plans by wiping him out once and for all. You can read this in the great book of Revelation 20.

 

[Thewatchman]

I suggest you reread that section about Elihu. I believe he was the fourth man, and he was not a "blowhard."

Job 32

1So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. 3Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job. 4Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. 5When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled. 6And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion. 7I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.

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Here wo go not my wors but Gods.
Job 42:7–9

King James Version

7 And it was so, that after the Lord had spoken these words unto Job, the Lord said to mEliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is nright, as my servant Job hath. 8 Therefore take unto you now oseven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and poffer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall qpray for you: for †him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is nright, like my servant Job. 9 So mEliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the Lord commanded them: the Lord also accepted †Job.

 

[oyster67]

Here wo go not my wors but Gods.
Job 42:7–9

Wo go heba-hodgi mo????

(Those verses say nothing about Elihu.)

 

[Thewatchman]

I suggest you reread that section about Elihu. I believe he was the fourth man, and he was not a "blowhard."

Job 32

1So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. 3Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job. 4Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. 5When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled. 6And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion. 7I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.

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Job 42.
The Lord Rebukes Job's Friends
7And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. 8Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. 9So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job.
Does this sound like Jobs friends were serving God?

 

[Thewatchman]

Wo go heba-hodgi mo????

(Those verses say nothing about Elihu.)

Here we go not my words but Gods

 

[Thewatchman]

I suggest you reread that section about Elihu. I believe he was the fourth man, and he was not a "blowhard."

Job 32

1So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes. 2Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God. 3Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job. 4Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he. 5When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled. 6And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion. 7I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.

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Eliphaz, Bildad & Zophar so you are right.
what about the behemoth

 

[oyster67]

what about the behemoth

A dinosaur?

 

[Thewatchman]

A dinosaur?

Be·he·moth
/bəˈhēməTH/

noun

• 1.a huge or monstrous creature:"behemoths like the brontosaurus
• Job 40
• 15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
  16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
  17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
  18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
  19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
  20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
  21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
  22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
  23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
  24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
  

 

[Thewatchman]

Lets take a trip back in time. We can do that by reading Gods Word with understanding. We are going to stay in Ezekiel 28. We are going to look into the past at the king of Tyre verses.

Verse 11: Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Who's words are we going to be looking at here? Not my words, not Ezekiel's words, but God's words.

Verse 12:Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Definition of lamentation :an expression of sorrow, mourning, or regret : an act or instance of lamenting. It can also mean elegy; Elegy (which may be traced to the Greek word elegos, “song of mourning”) commonly refers to a song or poem lamenting one who is dead. It would seem from this that the king of Tyrus is dead.

God tells Ezekiel to writh that the king of Tyrus was the full package, he had it all; He was full of wisdom and he had good looks.

Verse 13.Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

This can not be the garden of Eden in chapter 2 of Genius; Why? These stones listed are for the breast plate of the high priest and there where no high priest at that time. The tabrets and pipes are the mountings, settings and designs of the breast plate. This was all made for you on the day you were created.

Verse 14. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

There were only 2 cherub and what did they cover? The mercy set of God. The highest honor you could have been given. They were to grad the throne of God They walked on the very stones that were in the in front of Gods throne.

Verse 15. "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

God created this one, this king of Tyre and he was perfect in every way until something happened. Iniquity, sin, pride crept in. Satan started to thank I am perfect I should not be protecting this throne, NO I should me setting in it.

Verse 16. "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

By the multitude of thy merchandise: With everything you have acquired wealth, power, and status. They have filled the midst of thee with violence: Instead of you being thankful and serving Me as King and Lord you have turned against Me not only you but you have turned a great number of My people against Me also. And thou hast sinned! Yes they were in heaven & yes they sinned. Therefore! Because you have done this. I will cast thee as profane(die,to blot out, do away with) out of the Mountain of God: Satan is the only spirit, angle, person . . . to be sentenced to death by God at this time. Out of the Mountain of God: Out of heaven. I will destroy thee: Cause you to parish. O covering cherub: The cherub that covered, protected the mercy seat, the throne of God. from the midst of the stones of fire: from in front of the throne of God.

It was at this point that Satan and the angles that followed him fought against God and it was that war that caused that heaven and earth age to end leaving the earth as we see pictured in Genius 1:2 God had to set up this earth age where every soul must be born(conceived) of woman and make up his or her mind if they will serve and follow God or Satan. There is no other choice. It is Satan or God.

Verse 17.Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

Your heart(soul) is lifted in pride because of your beauty. You have corrupted your wisdom because of that beauty and your riches. You thank “I am better than God. That war brought an end to the first earth age just as the war he will have with Micheal and his angles will bring about the end to the earth age we live in now. “There is nothing under the sun”

Verses 18&19.Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Because of everything you have done the sin you have committed when you are killed you will be turned to ashes from the inside out, and you shall be no more.

This is why and how the earth in Genesis 1:2 became void and with out form.