100% Acceptance Of Homosexuality By 2040?

[Dude653]

I remember when "Pride" itself was considered a sin. Never mind the sexual immorality.

Pride is a thought crime

 

[Magenta]

I don't want to straw man you. Are you suggesting that we criminalize homosexuality because this isn't Saudi Arabia

I already identified what I said as an example. So no, I am not suggesting homosexuality becomes against the law of the land, punishable by death. Death is God's standard. We are to love our enemies, and the enemies of the cross, for we were once as they are in that sense.

 

[Magenta]

Pride is a thought crime

Thought crime, hmmm, like certain conspiracies against ruling governments are thought crimes? Punishable by law?

Pride is an attitude that does not stand alone as a thought. It has also come to mean much more than just
a "thought" in relation to the homosexual equation. It represents in-your-face flaunting of societal norms.

 

[Dude653]

I already identified what I said as an example. So no, I am not suggesting homosexuality becomes against the law of the land, punishable by death. Death is God's standard. We are to love our enemies, and the enemies of the cross, for we were once as they are in that sense.

Yeah that's kind of the problem though because someone doesn't share your love you doesn't necessarily mean that person is your enemy.
It is possible to coexist with different worldviews.. that goes back to that persecution complex I mentioned earlier. Just because someone isn't interested in your religious views doesn't mean you're being persecuted

 

[Magenta]

Yeah that's kind of the problem though because someone doesn't share your love you doesn't necessarily mean that person is your enemy.
It is possible to coexist with different worldviews.. that goes back to that persecution complex I mentioned earlier. Just because someone isn't interested in your religious views doesn't mean you're being persecuted

Enemy is used in many ways aside from people taking up arms against each other in all-out war. Aside from that, it is hard to discern your meaning here. It is like you want to pretend all many or most Christians cry about being persecuted at the drop of a hat, so to speak. The issue is hardly people not being interested in religious views. It more relates to a minority view jostling and agitating to have prominence in a world that has long been against them. They are the ones crying about having been persecuted.

 

[Dude653]

Enemy is used in many ways aside from people taking up arms against each other in all-out war. Aside from that, it is hard to discern your meaning here. It is like you want to pretend all many or most Christians cry about being persecuted at the drop of a hat, so to speak. The issue is hardly people not being interested in religious views. It more relates to a minority view jostling and agitating to have prominence in a world that has long been against them. They are the ones crying about having been persecuted.

The majority of Americans couldn't give a flip about sexual preference
Did a quick Google search and 70% of Americans are cool with same-sex marriage
Religion is becoming less and less relevant in America and there are a few theocrats desperate to hold on to power

 

[Magenta]

The majority of Americans couldn't give a flip about sexual preference
Did a quick Google search and 70% of Americans are cool with same-sex marriage
Religion is becoming less and less relevant in America and there are a few theocrats desperate to hold on to power

If they couldn't give a flip about sexual preference, how can they be cool with same sex marriage? Doesn't being "cool" with it mean they give a flip? Do you really trust this type of poll? Any honest statistician will tell you that statistics can be made to say whatever you want them to. Who are these "few theocrats desperate to hold on to power" of whom you speak? Elon Musk promised free speech on Twitter but has basically banned Jordan Peterson because he does not agree with current group think. The new "tolerance" is fake as usual.

 

[Dude653]

If they couldn't give a flip about sexual preference, how can they be cool with same sex marriage? Doesn't being "cool" with it mean they give a flip? Do you really trust this type of poll? Any honest statistician will tell you that statistics can be made to say whatever you want them to. Who are these "few theocrats desperate to hold on to power" of whom you speak? Elon Musk promised free speech on Twitter but has basically banned Jordan Peterson because he does not agree with current group think. The new "tolerance" is fake as usual.

I think what he said was obnoxious but I don't think he should have been censored for it
I'm not a fan of Peterson overall because he's mostly fluff

 

[Dude653]

If they couldn't give a flip about sexual preference, how can they be cool with same sex marriage? Doesn't being "cool" with it mean they give a flip? Do you really trust this type of poll? Any honest statistician will tell you that statistics can be made to say whatever you want them to. Who are these "few theocrats desperate to hold on to power" of whom you speak? Elon Musk promised free speech on Twitter but has basically banned Jordan Peterson because he does not agree with current group think. The new "tolerance" is fake as usual.

Speaking of Jordan Peterson did you see this series of debates he did with Sam harris?
It was a really good discussion. They both kept it polite and professional

 

[I_am_Canadian]

If they can't read then why are they in the library?

It's simple interactive exhibits lol

 

[Vindicator]

In general there are about five generation's of humans alive at any one time on earth. There is a process of "generational attrition" where each generation is born,grows up and forms patterns of ideas and then when they die off the way that generation(age group) had thought ends. The next generation then becomes the elder generation and their view on certain ideas differ slightly from the generation before them.

In the gallop poll if you notice it is put into an order "by year" and follows the pattern of "generational attrition" I'm speaking of in that it shows that people had different ideas about every 20 years. The first generation held it's opinion for about 20 years and then died off. The next generation then held it's opinion and then one after the next.

In society it is almost impossible to change how an generational group sees different matters instead they retain it until they die off and the next exhibits the change in thought. From the beginning mankind from generation to generation degraded in moral thought and also the governmental leaders(i.e. Babylon is the head of gold(value) and the next several governments degrade in value as described by the metals reduction of value in Daniel) . The end time generation is described in Scripture as degraded in morals because of generational attrition. 2022-2040 is about twenty years meaning that one generation will die off without anyone "changing their mind".

I was with you till the last sentence, but I think things are bit more fluid than that. I think even many among the older, more conservative generations will change their stance in a hurry if increasing political and social pressures are brought to bear on those still teaching that homosexual practice is a sin. If they should eventually pass laws that it is a form of discrimination in the workplace and people can potentially lose their jobs over it, I think that could change some minds rather quickly, and a lot of them.

 

[iamsoandso]

Interesting too to think of the issue as a right to life, especially given our acceptance and acknowledgment
of Who gives life in the first place, and the largely whole sale rejection of God and Godly principles by "gays."
Still, none of us were born believers, and even heterosexuals are rebellious toward God. It has been mentioned
that no other sin gets celebrated the way homosexuality is, but the flip side of that is that homosexuality has
been persecuted inside and outside the law in ways other sins have not been, either. Also, the entertainment
industry as a whole celebrates and promotes many kinds of sin in a large number of ways. It is interesting
too, that atheists and homosexuals are such a small percentage of society as a whole and yet they have been
at the forefront agitating for change. Of course all these people have families and loved ones who support them
also, and most parents do not want to see their children suffer when they know it can be prevented.

*Just a few thoughts*

That's why I explained what I did in post #148 about generational attrition. They know that they cannot change the older generations mind and that they will need to wait for them to die off. They also know that to change the generations after them they would need to set the images in front of them to so that it becomes normalized to the younger ones. This is why to them it became important to include these things in the textbooks in schools and why they include them in the cartoons. That is to change the next generation they needed to be exposed to it from a very young age to so that they would see it as normal. It stems from their research in planting false memories into the masses(project Camelot) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Camelot and the research the government funded in several universities E. Loftus, J. Pickrell ect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Loftus https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=AT-BYZUAAAAJ&hl=en

 

[iamsoandso]

I was with you till the last sentence, but I think things are bit more fluid than that. I think even many among the older, more conservative generations will change their stance in a hurry if increasing political and social pressures are brought to bear on those still teaching that homosexual practice is a sin. If they should eventually pass laws that it is a form of discrimination in the workplace and people can potentially lose their jobs over it, I think that could change some minds rather quickly, and a lot of them.

That doesn't mean the same as "change their mind" it actually means that they admit that they would need to force them to overlook it because they know they cannot change their minds.

 

[maxwel]

Why look at a guy when there's women to look at? Women are a thing of beauty! Guys are stupid-looking.

You speak the truth.
: )

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[Dude653]

You speak the truth.
: )

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Beauty is subjective

 

[joecoten]

Beauty is subjective

Look, a gay guy has just as much right to walk this planet as I do. I get that. I just don't get being gay.
Gay people need Jesus too!

 

[wolfwint]

Just saw something interesting. A recent Gallup poll is showing that 71% of respondents now say homosexuality is morally acceptable, with only 28% saying it is not. That amounts to a 30% jump in those who favor it (up from 40% to 70%) in just two decades.

If this is the case, and if that's how quickly public opinion is changing, we should assume that Western society will be approaching almost universal acceptance within just the next 20 years. I wonder how many Christians will still stand for what the word of God actually teaches on the subject by 2040.

LGBT Rights

I would not expect that in 2040 the world is as it is today. Its maby strange but the time of the antichrist will before 2040.

 

[Vindicator]

The so-called gay agenda thing is grossly exaggerated
It's not like gay people are kicking down your door and demanding that you be gay

I don't see them differently than anyone else, at least when they are not throwing their sexuality out there

Just saw something this evening that kinda demonstrates why it's not always an exaggeration, Dude.

Watch the following clip embedded in this article. It shows multiple gay men (five in a row at least) riding bikes completely naked - showing their business and all with young children looking on - during a Seattle "Gay Pride" parade last weekend.
https://www.opindia.com/2022/06/us-nude-adults-cycle-in-the-seattle-pride-parade-as-children-watch/

These are publicly funded events, heavily endorsed in States like Washington, which means there will be no prosecution of these men flashing their manhood at little children. In any other instance this would be considered a crime, but not in this one because the LGBTQ+ community should have the right to do as they please in public or they are being "discriminated against."

 

[Dude653]

I would not expect that in 2040 the world is as it is today. Its maby strange but the time of the antichrist will before 2040.

Yeah I already covered this earlier. Most people could not care less about a person's sexual preferences as long as everyone involved are consenting adults because it's just not something people find relevant anymore.
Like it or not, we're not in the dark ages anymore
I said, religion has two options, evolve with the times or become irrelevant. This may be a hard pill to swallow but it is

 

[Dude653]

Imagine I went to Walmart screaming at people and telling them they shouldn't be buying strawberry Pop-Tarts
Most people would think I need to be fitted for a straight jacket. As I mentioned earlier, the majority of America doesn't care about sexual preferences and you're going to be hard-pressed to get people to give poo about something that's not demonstrably a problem. Sorry but you lost this one