2 major camp, charismatic vs baptist

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Churchgoer said:
So if someone claim to be Christian for 30 years, still not experiencing God's presence, or not offering to God, do you think the person is saved?
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you have define what is the presence of God.
 
Churchgoer said:
Not every reformed guy is cessationist. John piper isn't.

Also I know at least one charismatic guy , he values experience above scripture.

Mt take is experience and scripture has to be in sync.
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It's like everything else in belief some believe this way and some another way but it's an injustice to assume since one does it everyone else does it.
 
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Churchgoer said:
So if someone claim to be Christian for 30 years, still not experiencing God's presence, or not offering to God, do you think the person is saved?
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The NT indicates that divine love is the normative experience indicative of salvation/Spirit baptism and filling
(Rom. 5:5, Gal. 5:6, 22-23). SIT in Acts 2:4 was an anomaly during the transition from the OT to NT. Later it was learned
that not everyone has the same gifts (1Cor. 12:1-11), but every saved sinner (soul/saint) should/will reflect God's love
(1Cor. 13:1-13).
 
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