3 recent lies Romney told on the campiagn trail.

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Lets see, on the one hand Romney is not Christian but he thinks he is, he reads the bible, and tries his best to follow what it says.

Obama states that we are not a Christian nation but we are Christian, Muslin, etc. He was raised Muslim and has stated he admires that religion. Muslins do not acknowledge Christ, they SAY they aren’t Christian.

Now who do you suppose God would tell us to choose to lead our nation? God gives examples in the OT of what happens when leaders lead to other Gods. A leader who accepts other Gods or one who thinks he is following the biblical God but is somewhat mislead?
 
A loaded topic to say the least. I wont vote for Obama on moral principles... He believes in Abortion and Gay marriage and thats enough for me. I honestly don't care about the rest. Although I can mention so much more. If you have a problem with my comment I respect that just be nice and say what it is. Sick of speaking my mind and being blasted in here. No need for it. Ill be nice whether you are or not; but hopefully being kind will encourage you to do likewise.
 
RedTent said:
Lets see, on the one hand Romney is not Christian but he thinks he is, he reads the bible, and tries his best to follow what it says.

Obama states that we are not a Christian nation but we are Christian, Muslin, etc. He was raised Muslim and has stated he admires that religion. Muslins do not acknowledge Christ, they SAY they aren’t Christian.

Now who do you suppose God would tell us to choose to lead our nation? God gives examples in the OT of what happens when leaders lead to other Gods. A leader who accepts other Gods or one who thinks he is following the biblical God but is somewhat mislead?
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Well Said RedTent.
 
Trilogic said:
A loaded topic to say the least. I wont vote for Obama on moral principles... He believes in Abortion and Gay marriage and thats enough for me. I honestly don't care about the rest. Although I can mention so much more. If you have a problem with my comment I respect that just be nice and say what it is. Sick of speaking my mind and being blasted in here. No need for it. Ill be nice whether you are or not; but hopefully being kind will encourage you to do likewise.
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Trilogic, the problem is when you touch their sacred cow
they tend to go beserk.
Oh, when you just say warm and fuzzies they are all lovey-dovey.....
But touch the king that has been anointed in their mind and they hiss
and claw like a coiled up snake or a spooked cat.
 
Probing Obama's Secrecy Games

"Over the past several months, including just last week, I’ve written numerous times about the two glaring contradictions that drive the Obama administration’s manipulative game-playing with its secrecy powers:

(1) at the very same time that they wage an unprecedented war on whistleblowers, they themselves continuously leak national security secrets exclusively designed to glorify Obama purely for political gain; and

(2) at the very same time they insist to federal courts that these programs are too secret even to confirm or deny their existence (thereby shielding them from judicial review or basic disclosure), they run around publicly boasting about their actions.

Just over the past month alone, they have done precisely this by leaking key details about Obama’s commanding role in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, drone attacks that have killed allegedly key Al Qaeda figures, sophisticated cyber-attacks on Iran’s nuclear program, and the selection of targets for Obama “kill list”: all programs that are classified and which the White House has insisted cannot be subjected to judicial review or any form of public scrutiny."

Probing Obama’s secrecy games - Salon.com

TPP secrets: Obama covertly granting more power to multinational corporations

"Despite the White House’s efforts to keep a proposed free trade agreement concealed from the public — and even Congress — an excerpt from the TPP leaked Wednesday reveals that President Obama is prepared to bow to multinational corporations.

A section of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership was leaked to the Web early Wednesday, and its contents suggest that US President Barack Obama was perhaps not so genuine with promises made while campaigning in 2008 and even offers some insight into why his administration has been eerily secretive about the TPP.

In a leak published this week by the advocacy website Public Citizen, though, it’s made clear that the Obama administration has every intention of backpedaling on previous promises that could largely impact regulations that will directly affect the safety and financial security of millions of Americans and international citizens.

According to the leaked excerpt, the Obama administration has been considering TPP provisions that would allow foreign corporations operating within the United States to appeal regulations on the environment and banking that would be forced on American-owned businesses with no chance of reprieve. While the United States could be sanctioned for failing to impose regulations on American-run businesses, multinational corporations are practically encouraged to do as much because the TPP outlines a clear avenue to file an appeal. If one of the eight Pacific nations chooses to do as much, their plea would be heard by an international tribunal that could overrule US law."

TPP secrets: Obama covertly granting more power to multinational corporations — RT

The Mystery Of Barack Obama Continues

http://www.westernjournalism.com/ex...eports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/
 
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Secrecy in Washington has been growing for a long time. There are currently over 900,000 people with top secret or higher levels, far too much. It is not just Obama, but since 2001 this has been a growing problem.

I am totally unaware of the TPP yet must look into it.
 
I frankly see the TPP, as a means to counter the effects of China in their expansionism that they have been exhibiting lately. Regardless of your worrying over the secrecy part of it all it is not any worse than the WTO (which is bad enough.) Given Romney's actual friendship and cooperation with the Chinese I would guess that he would do anything to make it easier for the Chinese. Even if he postures about the currency manipulation he has in fact given them technology and our jobs so why not surrender the trade with the Pacific countries to them also.
 
The new labor study statistics are in. The Center For Immigration Studies (CIS) report titled 'Who Got Jobs During the Obama Presidency? Native and Immigrant Employment Growth, 2009 to 2012' reveal that, "since President Obama took office, 67 percent of employment growth has gone to immigrants (legal and illegal)."

Who Got Jobs During the Obama Presidency? | Center for Immigration Studies

"A new analysis of government data shows that two-thirds of the net increase in employment since President Obama took office has gone to immigrant workers, primarily legal immigrants.

Although the level of new immigration overall has fallen, legal immigration remains very high. While economists debate the extent to which immigrants displace natives, the new data make clear that there is no general labor shortage in the United States.

This analysis calls into question the wisdom of [Obama's policies in] bringing in more than a million new legal immigrants each year at a time when the employment situation remains bleak."
 
Ageofknowledge: That of course has nothing at all to do with the OP.


Seems Romney continues to broadcast ads on TV and radio about the so called move of Jeep to China in spite of the denials by Chrysler. What is clear is that there are very high Chinese tariffs for autos built other places and all the major auto manufacturers have their products made there but only sold there in China. So while GM does make some of their autos there, they have no effect on sales here in the US, and there are no Chinese built autos sold here because we make all of our own autos.

Romney knows these facts and still continues to spend campaign money broadcasting those false ads in areas of the country where it generally disturbs the auto workers. So far Romney has not come out and accused Marchiccone of lying to the public and in fact they are doing things the way Romney tells it. But Chrysler has begun to build a $500 million facility in Toledo so Romney's story has a patina of stupidness to it. If in fact Romney truly believes that information he should go around accusing Chrysler of lying to their workers.

So far no one can explain to the media why Romney continues down this path except if you saw the last debate where Romney accused Obama of taking 2 weeks to declare the attack on our consulate in Benghazi an act of terror and both Obama and the moderator declared that Obama had in fact made such a statement the very next day after the attack. Still Romney continued to argue as though that part of the conversation just had not happened. To the confusion of everyone present.

It appears that Romney is unable to accept and deal with new facts well, he cant seem to work his argument containing those new facts into a cogent new direction while still in debate AND more importantly he refuses to apologize, admit a mistake, or just acknowledge an error. Not the type of person I would want in the white house.
 
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This site is supposed to be for the connecting, ministering, and uplifting of saints of the most high.
Not for the campaigning for worldly rulers.
It is easy to see where certain people's allegiances lie come election time.
 
Anyone who understands the fundamentals of Christianity also knows that neither Mormons (Romney) or Unitarians (Obama) embrace sound christian beliefs thus there is a very strong possibility that neither man is truly saved, if indeed they embrace the core fundamentals of their preferred doctrines. However, considering God himself knows no limitations, there is always the possibility that God could have dealt with or may in the future deal with either person on individual basis resulting in salvation which is why the Bible teaches us that we are to keep our leaders in our prayers.
 
celestemekent said:
It is not worth my time to bother correcting you. so I'll just ignore you.
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I have lived through every president since Ford.

Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends lose thier jobs than I have in the past two years.
Never in my life have I seen my friends lose jobs, then have to settle for another job with almost half their income as the last two years.
Never in my life have I seen a man who is more unqualified to be my commander in chief (and this includes carter, which is saying alot)
Never in my life, have I been to the point I have to vote for the lesser of the two evils, because one man is so evil he is going to bankrupt this country if he gets for more years, and we will never have to have this conversation again.

If Obama wins, the people of the USA Lose.
 
Fortunately I'm not a citizen, so I can't vote ;)

Any candidate running for president will just be a puppet/figure head as I believe that's all presidents are. The ones running everything are behind the scenes with their own agenda, which is why we keep going round in circles with no major changes.

Maybe it's best to go with the one that has Israel's best interests? Obama wants to divide their land whereas Romney does not. Obama also supports the abortion and gay marriage, both an abomination.

EG - the way I see it, the people of the USA lose regardless of who gets in.

I see "them" continuing in their agenda to get rid of the constitution and bring in martial law. Terrorism is an opportunity to get the people to give up their rights for peace and security and I've noticed bills with strategic wording that deceive. Kennedy even spoke out about these things in his last speech. One cannot destroy the US from the outside (with all it's military power), rather it has to be destroyed internally...infiltration.

I see Romney appealing to the masses, largely Catholics and those who are against abortion. But interesting Scripture here says.....

"....And I will enter into judgment with them there On account of My people, My heritage Israel, Whom they have scattered among the nations; They have also divided up My land" (History shows Israel has already been scattered, but the 2 state solution is the plan to divide Israel. Obama wants 2 state solution/division and Romney does not. Bible says 2 state solution will happen)

"....I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you"

So judgment will be on America if they divide Israel?? Could it be God divides America in return? It always seems to be 'an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth' when people mess with Israel. Interesting. I wonder if the division would happen around the New Madrid zone..
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama
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What evidence do you have that ANY of these things are "lies"?

A video that contains a clips of things that Obama has said, and then calls them lies, is evidence only that a lot of stupid people have a lot of extra time on their hands and edit software on their computers.

BTW: I'd say the same thing about a video that just clipped stuff from Romney speeches and "buzzed" it without any evidence of the statements' validity or lack thereof.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends lose thier jobs than I have in the past two years.... {snip} If Obama wins, the people of the USA Lose.
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Except that the state of the economy has been going in the toilet since before Obama was president. If Obama (or, more properly stated, his policies) were the cause of this decline, the economic picture of this country would not look like it does:
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If you are against economic growth, by all means, vote for Romney. Or Johnson, for that matter.

If you favor policies that will keep this country moving in the right direction, continuing the trends that Obama has started, reversing 8 years of over-spending (which is going to take a while to make up for), then vote for Obama, as much as your conscience allows. If your conscience does not allow voting for him due to other factors, but you still prefer his economic policies, there are 3rd party candidates on the ballot, and you can always write-in a name.
 
celestemekent said:
1. Speaking at a company called Kinsler Romney said that the stimulus did not help any private company yet that very company received over $600,000 from the stimulus, and jobs were saved.

2.Speaking at American Spring wire, Romney claimed that Obama did nothing to help companies who had to compete with Chinese trade issues, yet that very company was helped by Obama whose office offered and got import tariffs to stop China from dumping their artificially cheaper wire here in America.

3. Romney after reading some right wing blog; speaking in Ohio, claimed that Jeep was going to send all their manufacturing to China. After which Jeep itself contradicted the report in a news release it seems that they were not only adding jobs here in the US but would expand their manufacturing for the Chinese market by building some there.

Every single one of these claims by Romney was easily checkable but he or his staff just did not bother because the claim looked bad for Obama. Romney just does not CARE if he tells the truth he just wants Obama to look bad. None of theses claims are mere "spin" they are not mere hyperbole, they are outright lies told by Romney to convince the voters to vote for him, lies that Romney could have avoided if he cared
about the truth.

I cannot vote for anyone who so casually lies over things that are public knowledge.
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