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BOY

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They say the birth pains, the birth pains, the birth pains. any day now, the Lord is coming to get us. any moment, The Lord is coming to get us. They prophecy 2024. They prophecy this day, They prophecy that day. they say. the fiery ring. will be the day. When Jesus comes and gets us.. Go on youtube and take a look Just type in, the Rapture.

There's a tiny bit of truth in that. we are close to the signing of the agreement. The signing of the peace deal. but we might not see this. 7 years, it might be behind the scenes. but we will see the signing the confirm the covenant. But what if it's not for 7 years. The enemy knows that we know. he might hide that fact not publish that fact. Did you ever think of that? Keeps how long the peace deal is for, hidden. Or not publishing. some parts of the agreement.
 

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No one knows the time day or year, but FATHER God of risen Son. Therefore believe and be ready in season and out of season. Be one of the Ten Virgins, oil lamp filled by God, not any self works of self or others but God in risen Son for me at Least6his I see, thanks
 

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They say the birth pains, the birth pains, the birth pains.
I'm not sure who "they" is, that you speak of, but I'll just say this...

If anyone says "the beginning of birth pangs" [which are the SEALS] have ALREADY STARTED, then they do not understand it, because they HAVE NOT STARTED.



"The beginning of birth pangs" [i.e. the "SEALS"] will only commence FOLLOWING "our Rapture".


They (the "BoBPs / SEALS") "kick off" the 7-yr Tribulation period that WE ("the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY") will NOT be present on the earth for.








["you tube videos" very often convey very faulty information... so there's that. :D ]
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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They say the birth pains, the birth pains, the birth pains. any day now, the Lord is coming to get us. any moment, The Lord is coming to get us. They prophecy 2024. They prophecy this day, They prophecy that day. they say. the fiery ring. will be the day. When Jesus comes and gets us.. Go on youtube and take a look Just type in, the Rapture.

There's a tiny bit of truth in that. we are close to the signing of the agreement. The signing of the peace deal. but we might not see this. 7 years, it might be behind the scenes. but we will see the signing the confirm the covenant. But what if it's not for 7 years. The enemy knows that we know. he might hide that fact not publish that fact. Did you ever think of that? Keeps how long the peace deal is for, hidden. Or not publishing. some parts of the agreement.

So when the peace deal is signed, and the 7 years start to count down, you think we might not know for part of that 7 years? Hmmm.... Maybe. All the Bible says is that there will be a great falling away and the antichrist will be revealed.

But doesn't the Jewish temple have to be built first so that the Jews can enjoy their daily sacrifices for the first half of those 7 years? That would mean having to knock down the Dome of the Rock. I don't think anyone would be able to hide that fact from the world for very long.

We'll see. The war between Israel and Iran right now could "accidentally" wreck the Dome of the Rock somehow so that they can build the third Jewish temple over it. :unsure:


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So when the peace deal is signed, and the 7 years start to count down, you think we might not know for part of that 7 years? Hmmm.... Maybe. All the Bible says is that there will be a great falling away and the antichrist will be revealed.

But doesn't the Jewish temple have to be built first so that the Jews can enjoy their daily sacrifices for the first half of those 7 years? That would mean having to knock down the Dome of the Rock. I don't think anyone would be able to hide that fact from the world for very long.

We'll see. The war between Israel and Iran right now could "accidentally" wreck the Dome of the Rock somehow so that they can build the third Jewish temple over it. :unsure:


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Where does it say the temple has to be built. before the Tribulation starts. Or at the start of the seven years. It definitely has to be built before the. Great tribulation starts. Way before I would think. For them to do daily sacrifice and for the. sacrifice to be taken away. But there's nothing about it being built three and a half years Before the Great Tribulation Or at the start of the seven years
Or is there.?
 

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So when the peace deal is signed, and the 7 years start to count down, you think we might not know for part of that 7 years? Hmmm.... Maybe. All the Bible says is that there will be a great falling away and the antichrist will be revealed.

But doesn't the Jewish temple have to be built first so that the Jews can enjoy their daily sacrifices for the first half of those 7 years? That would mean having to knock down the Dome of the Rock. I don't think anyone would be able to hide that fact from the world for very long.

We'll see. The war between Israel and Iran right now could "accidentally" wreck the Dome of the Rock somehow so that they can build the third Jewish temple over it. :unsure:


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And the falling away you think it's a sign of the seven years.?
How did you come to that conclusion? Would be nice to know.
 

BOY

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So when the peace deal is signed, and the 7 years start to count down, you think we might not know for part of that 7 years? Hmmm.... Maybe. All the Bible says is that there will be a great falling away and the antichrist will be revealed.

But doesn't the Jewish temple have to be built first so that the Jews can enjoy their daily sacrifices for the first half of those 7 years? That would mean having to knock down the Dome of the Rock. I don't think anyone would be able to hide that fact from the world for very long.

We'll see. The war between Israel and Iran right now could "accidentally" wreck the Dome of the Rock somehow so that they can build the third Jewish temple over it. :unsure:


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I understand what you're saying. but the temple could be built any time after the signing of the agreement. All I'm saying is we might not see the wording 7. years. we might be able to.understand there's more to it And that it is the agreement we're looking for.

But the temple could be built months after the signing. And as for the falling away the church is already saying the Falling ways started Way back when.. unless you think there's a bigger fall in the way going to happen.

Just because we have disagreed on one piece of doctrine. doesn't mean we can't find common ground. and still be friends. and find truths of the Subjects. Please keep it in mind. We are not enemies.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Just because we have disagreed on one piece of doctrine. doesn't mean we can't find common ground. and still be friends. and find truths of the Subjects. Please keep it in mind. We are not enemies.

Maybe it's best that I not post to this thread if what I wrote kind of throws you off? I want you to enjoy your thread. Don't worry, I don't think we're enemies. :)


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BOY

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Maybe it's best that I not post to this thread if what I wrote kind of throws you off? I want you to enjoy your thread. Don't worry, I don't think we're enemies. :)


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Please post my friend. I would love your input. I'm looking for a new angles in case my angle is incorrect. Please. I would enjoy it so much if you did post
 

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They say the birth pains, the birth pains, the birth pains. any day now, the Lord is coming to get us. any moment, The Lord is coming to get us. They prophecy 2024. They prophecy this day, They prophecy that day. they say. the fiery ring. will be the day. When Jesus comes and gets us.. Go on youtube and take a look Just type in, the Rapture.

There's a tiny bit of truth in that. we are close to the signing of the agreement. The signing of the peace deal. but we might not see this. 7 years, it might be behind the scenes. but we will see the signing the confirm the covenant. But what if it's not for 7 years. The enemy knows that we know. he might hide that fact not publish that fact. Did you ever think of that? Keeps how long the peace deal is for, hidden. Or not publishing. some parts of the agreement.
The 7 years will not be hidden for it will be plain to see for it will involve the nations governments coming together as one so they will be working openly.

WW1, League of Nations, WW2, United Nations, a set up to get the nations governments to work together for peace.

Ukraine war a set up to get the people of the world to accept a one world government.

They made sure they had leaders in all governments that want a one world government.

The United Nations supports new age organizations.

As soon as Israel and Hamas started fighting the nations started dividing themselves spewing out threats, and warnings, choosing sides which is a set up to set the stage for the New Age Christ.

Now that the stage is set for the New Age Christ, Science are putting forth the new age beliefs, and reality, and their interpretation of the Bible saying they have new discoveries giving them a new perspective of things.

Science as an organization was set up to get people away from a personal God, and the fundamental teachings of the Bible, and then give them the new age interpretation of the Bible.

Which they believe people are evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus became an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ will become the world teacher.

They say modern Science is giving the correct interpretation of the Bible and the Christians are interpreting it wrong.

Which they point out the things they interpret wrong about the Bible, and Jesus' teachings.

The new age believes aliens gave mankind intelligence, and will cause them to have peace, advance, and evolve, which they talk about the return of the gods.

Science says they have proof of aliens, life on other planets, and receiving messages from outer space.

The new age believes in evolution but not according to the Darwinian view for they do not believe humans evolved from apes, but from the same lineage but broke away about 7 million years ago.

Which Science say they have a new perspective on evolution, and the origins of people, and humans are not of the earth.

They will put forth the new age beliefs for a while to reach the people of the world that the new age is the correct interpretation of the Bible and then the New Age Christ will negotiate peace in the Middle East resulting in a peace treaty which will be a peace treaty for the world because the nations divided themselves choosing sides.

He will be considered a great man of peace and he will push the agenda of the new age to change the world to that format which he will think to change times and laws.

God is love and loves all people but He has to end sin on earth one day so He is allowing the world 7 years to have their way, and cause the world to follow the New Age Christ and when they take His mark then salvation is no longer available to the world and He will end sin on earth.

For the first three and one half years salvation is available to the world so the saints will remain on earth to represent the truth.

Which Paul said let no person deceive you by any means for the gathering of the saints unto Christ shall not happen until there is a falling away first, and the man of sin claims to be God.

This is not speaking of the Church for the Church can never fall away which Jesus said the gates of hell cannot prevail against the Church, and the hypocrites do not belong to the Church and will not be with Jesus.

The falling away first is the condition of the world in response to allowing the truth to be preached which the nations governments came in agreement and stopped the preaching of the Gospel, and the belief in a personal God, which caused the New Age Christ to be able to rule over them.

At the end of the first three and one half years war will break out in heaven and Satan and his angels are cast to earth which the earth becomes the habitation of devils and they deceive all people who do not love the truth which is the strong delusion God will send them.

Satan appears as the antichrist to deceive all people who do love God.

For the first three and one half years the antichrist is influenced by the devil, and for the last three and one half years he is controlled by the devil.

He makes war against the saints and prevails against them.

And they are given into his hands for three and one half years.

And when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people all things are finished.

Then comes the end when the Son shall deliver the kingdom up to God then He will put down all authority, power, and rule.

There is only 2 resurrections one of the saints before the millennial reign, and one of the dead after the millennial reign.

Once the resurrection of the saints happens no one can be saved for Jesus said once He shuts the door no one can enter, and the people who were hypocritical will not be with Jesus.

2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.

When the resurrection of the saints does not happen before the 7 years period some people will depart from the faith of the Bible and follow the new age christianity.

Nothing about the New Age Christ and world's agenda will be hidden during the 7 years period for it will be all out in the open.
 

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Which Paul said let no person deceive you by any means for the gathering of the saints unto Christ shall not happen until there is a falling away first, and [...]
Hm... another one conflating verse 1 with verse 2... oh boy. :sneaky:
 

BOY

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I found a webpage written by a Messianic Jew about the third temple. I think he will be the best to answer all your questions about the third temple in the end times.



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Dan9:26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


Rev11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

I don't think. Daniel, 9:26. has been fulfilled. I think he made a mistake there.

The Antichrist is their Messiah in the beginning. They don't know he's a bad boy. Then the dragon gives him his power and his seat. Then he Becomes the bad boy beast. That's the forty two months Rev11:2
 

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The 7 years will not be hidden for it will be plain to see for it will involve the nations governments coming together as one so they will be working openly.
Well, I hope so. But the enemy knows that we know it's 7 years. so he may want to hide it. I'm just saying. but I hope you're right. And it is plain as day. But I have a sneaky feeling. because these are sneaky people.
 

BOY

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So what are we looking for. we are looking for an agreement made with Israel for peace. A seven year agreement If they don't hide that fact. as this is not your average normal. worldly agreement. This is the Antichrist we're talking about Who is a liar And the father of it.
So hopefully we are looking for a 7 year agreement with Israel. If somehow we miss the seven years, Or the seven year bit was hidden from us. After the agreement is made, they will start building the temple. And some time before the man of sin is revealed. befor the 42 month mark. There will be a falling away.

Anybody know of any other signs? that we should be looking for? Other than wars. earthquakes. famines. etc.?
Do you think I have that in the right order?
 

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So what are we looking for. we are looking for an agreement made with Israel for peace. A seven year agreement If they don't hide that fact. as this is not your average normal. worldly agreement. This is the Antichrist we're talking about Who is a liar And the father of it.
So hopefully we are looking for a 7 year agreement with Israel. If somehow we miss the seven years, Or the seven year bit was hidden from us. After the agreement is made, they will start building the temple. And some time before the man of sin is revealed. befor the 42 month mark. There will be a falling away.

Anybody know of any other signs? that we should be looking for? Other than wars. earthquakes. famines. etc.?
Do you think I have that in the right order?
You should be looking for opportunities to share the gospel.
 

Magenta

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They say the birth pains, the birth pains, the birth pains. any day now, the Lord is coming to get us. any moment,
The Lord is coming to get us. They prophecy 2024. They prophecy this day, They prophecy that day. they say. the
fiery ring. will be the day. When Jesus comes and gets us.. Go on youtube and take a look Just type in, the Rapture.
You should be looking for opportunities to share the gospel.
It would make a great song put to the right music... it needs a heavy back-beat, perhaps...