Isn’t that exactly what Peter says in 1 Peter 3:21? If it SAVES US, then isn’t it a “religious means of salvation?” How can it be anything else, when you read 1 Peter3:21. If it “REMITS SINS, wouldn’t it be a “means of salvation? If it washes away sins, wouldn’t it be a “means of salvation?” I need scripture to show me that it doesn’t have anything to do with salvation. I know what MAN says, but that doesn’t agree with what I find in the Bible. So if there is such a scripture that plainly teaches something opposite of 1 Peter 3:21 please tell me.
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No actually he does not. He said like the flood it resembles that which truly saves.
peter said it himself. It does not remove filth if the flesh (sins of the flesh). But is the answer if a good conscience of Christ. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves or as Paul said in col 2. The circumcision of God without hands via the spiritual baptism of the one who raised him from the dead
news flash. Your pastor did not raise Jesus from the dead. Not can he baptize you into Christ. Only God can do this
peter said it himself. It does not remove filth if the flesh (sins of the flesh). But is the answer if a good conscience of Christ. It is the resurrection of Christ that saves or as Paul said in col 2. The circumcision of God without hands via the spiritual baptism of the one who raised him from the dead
news flash. Your pastor did not raise Jesus from the dead. Not can he baptize you into Christ. Only God can do this
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Well, here is another “news flash”. In the Bible the words pastor, shepherd, bishop and elder are all names referring to the spiritual leaders of the church in Titus 1 and 1 Tim. 3. And there was never just one—but a plurality of them. ——but that’s another subject.
All Peter us saying is that baptism is not a “physical bath”. It is a “spiritual bath.” It does not remove filth from the body— it removes sins from the soul. Do you know the story of Naaman In 2 Kings 5? Naaman was told by God to dip 7 times in the Jordan River and he would be cured of leprosy. At first he refused but relented and OBEYED GOD’s instructions. When he did what God said, his leprosy was gone—he was cured. Do you think there was power in the water? No, there was no power in the water; the power was in obeying God’s word. God cured his leprosy —but on His terms. If Naaman chose to refuse to do what God said, he would have gone home a “leper.” You have the same choice. You can believe God when He says “baptism saves you.” and be clean of your sins, have your sins remitted, have your sins “washed away” OR you can refuse What God says and stay a “sinner.” Just like Naaman could have stayed a “leper”.
All Peter us saying is that baptism is not a “physical bath”. It is a “spiritual bath.” It does not remove filth from the body— it removes sins from the soul. Do you know the story of Naaman In 2 Kings 5? Naaman was told by God to dip 7 times in the Jordan River and he would be cured of leprosy. At first he refused but relented and OBEYED GOD’s instructions. When he did what God said, his leprosy was gone—he was cured. Do you think there was power in the water? No, there was no power in the water; the power was in obeying God’s word. God cured his leprosy —but on His terms. If Naaman chose to refuse to do what God said, he would have gone home a “leper.” You have the same choice. You can believe God when He says “baptism saves you.” and be clean of your sins, have your sins remitted, have your sins “washed away” OR you can refuse What God says and stay a “sinner.” Just like Naaman could have stayed a “leper”.
That’s a good attitude and a good start.
I could not care less about a “theological debate.” I just want everyone to understand and obey God’s “truth.” All I am asking is for people to believe what the Bible says. That’s why I give so many scriptures. Believe what you READ in the Bible—not what you have been taught by men.
I could not care less about a “theological debate.” I just want everyone to understand and obey God’s “truth.” All I am asking is for people to believe what the Bible says. That’s why I give so many scriptures. Believe what you READ in the Bible—not what you have been taught by men.
Sadly you bought the koolaide given to you.
Once again, God does not contradict himself
Jesus said it is through faith in him, All we have to do is look to the cross. And we will be saved and never perish.
But Like I said, you want to earn salvation, feel free.. But I will recommend when you see christ, You do not boast of your baptism. It will Not go well for you
Me, I will boast in Christ.. And praise God I could do all the works he wanted me to do. Like get baptized. Take communion. Go to church. Serve others Winn the lost. Make disciples. Etc etc.
Once again, God does not contradict himself
Jesus said it is through faith in him, All we have to do is look to the cross. And we will be saved and never perish.
But Like I said, you want to earn salvation, feel free.. But I will recommend when you see christ, You do not boast of your baptism. It will Not go well for you
Me, I will boast in Christ.. And praise God I could do all the works he wanted me to do. Like get baptized. Take communion. Go to church. Serve others Winn the lost. Make disciples. Etc etc.
They certainly do. There have been numerous people over the years who attend false religions and cults that have been water baptized because they trust in their baptism to save them, yet they do not truly believe in Jesus unto salvation. Some of these people are even infants who are incapable of believing.
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Yes, the subject of baptism is important, 2 kinds, by the spirit and by water see below the Words of Christ;
In the King James Version (KJV), several verses highlight the concept of baptism by the Spirit as spoken by Christ. In Matthew 3:11, John the Baptist states, “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” This establishes the distinction between water baptism and the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
In John 3:5, Jesus emphasizes the necessity of being “born of water and of the Spirit” for entering the kingdom of God. This suggests that both aspects are important for spiritual rebirth. Additionally, in John 7:37-39, Jesus invites those who are thirsty to come to Him, explaining that “out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water,” which refers to the Spirit that believers would later receive.
Further, in Acts 1:4-5, Jesus commands His disciples to wait for the promise of the Father, indicating that they will be baptized with the Holy Spirit shortly. Finally, in Acts 2:38, Peter links repentance and water baptism with the receiving of the Holy Spirit.
Blessings.
In the King James Version (KJV), several verses highlight the concept of baptism by the Spirit as spoken by Christ. In Matthew 3:11, John the Baptist states, “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” This establishes the distinction between water baptism and the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
In John 3:5, Jesus emphasizes the necessity of being “born of water and of the Spirit” for entering the kingdom of God. This suggests that both aspects are important for spiritual rebirth. Additionally, in John 7:37-39, Jesus invites those who are thirsty to come to Him, explaining that “out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water,” which refers to the Spirit that believers would later receive.
Further, in Acts 1:4-5, Jesus commands His disciples to wait for the promise of the Father, indicating that they will be baptized with the Holy Spirit shortly. Finally, in Acts 2:38, Peter links repentance and water baptism with the receiving of the Holy Spirit.
Blessings.