4th Industrial Revolution

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We recently came back from a cruise to the Bahamas.

When we reentered at Cape Canaveral, we didn’t have to present our passports.

They said the facial recognition was our passport!!!

Sick
many of us have been warning about this, and now it is here...
 

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many of us have been warning about this, and now it is here...
There is no stopping it. We should all be aware that the US does not lack any technology. If China is monitoring every person then so is the US. The internet is great, very useful, especially to the government which can collect every feed, every email, every text, every phone call and it can turn every phone, computer and TV into a bug that listens and watches.

Facebook has been so very helpful to them to know who is connected to who. They can see who all the members of each church are. And by looking at every comment, every post, every thing written and said by each person they can determine who to focus on first.

With ring they can see every person that visits every home. Putting GPS trackers in the cars helps to also know everywhere each person goes.

Give them credit, they have scouted out the situation for this upcoming Antichrist kingdom.
 

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Useful idiots are paving the way for the robots to replace them

California's NEW $25 Minimum Wage For Hotel Workers


If minimum wage is $25 an hour that equates to $50,000 a year. Why would a teacher with a Master's degree take a job that starts at 40k a year? Most teachers starting pay was double minimum wage. So does this mean that starting pay for teachers and police and fire will be 100k?
 

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AI News: Get Ready, Things Are About to Get Crazy!

Deep Mind alpha fold can predict how various molecules will interact. Potential discovery of new drugs, new vaccines.
 

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100M jobs gone because of AI. What will we do?

 

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END TIMES REPORT: Artificial Intelligence Learns to Deceive Humans and Unwanted AI Digital Hauntings
 

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Google Just Took Over the AI World (A Full Breakdown)


The power of AI in searching is very scary. They present it as something people would find "helpful" but all you have to do is substitute you for an investigator, PI, or anyone else and you can see how scary this is.

There is nothing you or anyone else can do to stop this. The Bible described the Beast rising from the sea and that is what we are seeing. Everyday it rises, it gets bigger, it gets closer, and it is coming. For those that subscribe to this service it can write you are 1,500 page response and soon that will double to 3,000 pages. Since the context is for it to go through your pictures and emails and texts think of it writing a dossier on a group of people. Suppose the FBI looking to infiltrate some church asked it to go through facebook and all the other sources and write a dossier on the members. At first it could create an organizational map showing how all the members interact with a short two page blurb on each person. Then you could ask it to focus intently on the twenty or thirty people who were leaders. You could see how effective this can be for the Antichrist in a mopping up operation after the rapture.

Satan's army is getting ready, are you? It is time to prepare to meet your God.
 

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Google Just Took Over the AI World (A Full Breakdown)


The power of AI in searching is very scary. They present it as something people would find "helpful" but all you have to do is substitute you for an investigator, PI, or anyone else and you can see how scary this is.

There is nothing you or anyone else can do to stop this. The Bible described the Beast rising from the sea and that is what we are seeing. Everyday it rises, it gets bigger, it gets closer, and it is coming. For those that subscribe to this service it can write you are 1,500 page response and soon that will double to 3,000 pages. Since the context is for it to go through your pictures and emails and texts think of it writing a dossier on a group of people. Suppose the FBI looking to infiltrate some church asked it to go through facebook and all the other sources and write a dossier on the members. At first it could create an organizational map showing how all the members interact with a short two page blurb on each person. Then you could ask it to focus intently on the twenty or thirty people who were leaders. You could see how effective this can be for the Antichrist in a mopping up operation after the rapture.

Satan's army is getting ready, are you? It is time to prepare to meet your God.
Beware, this announcement from Google can make it so that for "free" they will replace your personal assistant, secretary, travel agent, para legal, real estate broker, stock broker, etc. Now I put free in quotes because I suspect advertising with google will get you a priority with the AI doing these operations. But even if it is sending you to places where google is getting paid to send you it will still be a fraction of the cost of having a full time worker doing this job.
 

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SAY GOODBYE to Coding Jobs! AGI is Taking Over! (Should You Learn To Code 2024)

 

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1. This program they have can solve 90% of coding problems if given the chance to check its work and correct errors. It can do this much faster than most if not all coders. This 90% accuracy is extremely helpful as a way to get started on a very tough project.

2. A year ago in competitive programming their program scored in the 50% range of human competitors. Now, a year later they are at the 85% range. Now only your best programmers are going to be entering these competitions.

Consider these two factors together and you can make several conclusions.

1. This program is probably better than any new hire out of college is.

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2. A year from now this program will probably be better than any programmer with ten years experience or less.

Based on that you can imagine that no one will be hiring coders out of college this summer and a year from now you will be seeing layoffs galore.
 

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ZNP

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and just think, this is what they publicly admit.

what do you think is going on behind closed doors???
Behind closed doors they are predicting who the troublesome Christians are.
 

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I can predict crime. Where laws are not enforced, there will be a lot of it. Where you prosecute crime, you will have a lot less.
 

ZNP

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Great new idea for an ad campaign for AI:

You just can't do it. That's why we invented ChatGPT. We are here to turn "I can't" into "we can and we will".

Humans, smart enough to create AI, dumb enough to need it and too stupid to see how this will all end.
 

ZNP

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Ad campaign

1. Have a clip of some guy at a bar spilling the beans about secrets at the company to a spy from another company -- ChatGPT because humans are dumb enough to be scammed.

2. Have a clip of a hacker stealing all the sensitive data from a company and selling it on the dark web -- ChatGPT because humans are too lazy to follow security protocols.

3. Have a clip of a baggage handler tossing bags being loaded onto an airplane carelessly. Tesla robots because you just can't do it.

4. Show a courtroom where a massive fine is handed down to a company because of discriminatory behavior of a manager. ChatGPT because humans are just plain dumb.

5. Show a courtroom where a bunch of executives in suits are put in handcuffs and led away due to violations of the law and have a breaking news under this scene showing the stock price collapsing. ChatGPT because humans are stupid.

6. Show some slob talking rudely on the phone to a potential client of the firm. ChatGPT because humans are stupid.

7. Show a criminal trial where employees of the school were using the school's credit card to pay for home improvement. ChatGPT "don't let this happen to you".

8. Show a video of someone acting in an unsafe way resulting in them getting hurt on the job and getting a large settlement from the company. Tesla Robots -- "We don't sue".

Humans, smart enough to create AI, dumb enough to need it and too stupid to see how this will all end.
 

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How to control AI systems much smarter than us


I think this is a very important question that we should address. For example, what does it mean that AI system is much smarter than us?

There are a lot of ways to be "much smarter". Sometimes a person comes up with a solution that we see as "genius". We saw this with AlphaGo when it beat Lee Sydol. AI was able to figure out new strategies in Go by playing millions of simulated games and studying all the other games. We feed it enormous amounts of Data and it is able to spot patterns. We can do the same thing but can't digest as much data as AI can.

But there are other ways. Sometimes being "much smarter" is simply more observant to the little things around us. This kind of smarts is illustrated in the TV show Monk where he notices small little things. It is also illustrated in shows like Eagle Eye and Person of Interest about the overwhelming superiority that AI has when it comes to observing every single person on the planet. In Eagle Eye they go into a secure room to try and keep AI from listening and it looks at the ripples in the coffee cup to determine what is being said. AI can observe every email, text, phone message, convert every phone to a bug, track people by their phones or cars, and tap into every camera feed.

Sometimes being smarter is simply being more diligent. If you have a million lines of code you need to go through to find something it requires a great deal of diligence and persistence to do that. AI has the computing power to do that.

So then what we need is a system of checks and balances. Have three different AI's that do not communicate with each other look at a problem. Suppose one of them comes up with a move that appears to be "genius". Ask the other two AI systems to evaluate the move and determine possible faults and negative outcomes. Then if they do come up with something run that by the first AI to see if it had considered that and if there is a solution.

If one AI notices some small little features or observations that might be critical, ask the other two AI systems if it agrees.

Also evaluate the lines of code of each AI using different AI systems. Yes, it AI becomes very smart let's use different and independent AI systems as a check and balance to the power.

You don't want to be beholden to any one system. If an AI appears to be manipulating people for some nefarious end you want to be able to immediately shut it down, cut it off, and investigate. Also, you don't want the AI to simply be calling the shots. It suggests a path to take you want to be able to come back with relevant and well thought out considerations and concerns.
 

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Another way to control it is to compartmentalize.

Imagine you have one AI that does surveillance, but it does not get to make any suggestions as a result. It simply feeds what it finds to another AI. But the AI that sends requests to the surveillance AI is not the AI that receives the results and takes action.

If the AI making suggestions on policy is not able to control the requests or the surveillance then it is much harder for it to be absolute in power.

Likewise if you have three separate AI systems evaluating the surveillance and making their recommendations you could then have them evaluate each others recommendations the same way you might have several people debating the best possible course of. action with each other.

Also the final decision would be made by a human. so this group of three AI systems would only have the ability to recommend, not to act.

Granted in war you need to be able to act quickly. So the AI powering drones and robots on a battlefield would have to be able to make split second decisions. However, the objective would be given to this AI and it would be graded on how well it carried out those orders. This is just like the commander in chief giving orders to a subordinate during war.
 

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A brilliant solution is to wipe the memory of many of these systems every 24 hours.

Better yet, only give it sufficient RAM for 24 hour memory. Make some of these systems incapable of operating for more than 24 hours without receiving orders.

Make other systems very robust in collecting and storing data but with limited computing power to actually evaluate the data.

Then make the brains of the operation that does come up with strategy and does evaluate the data completely cut off from the direct feeds and incapable of communicating with anyone other than the people using it.

Make it so that the communication between these systems is under the control of humans. Make sure you have three different systems so that you can easily and quickly cut the power to any one of these systems that appears to have gone rogue.