5 Ways To Evangelize The Jehovah’s Witnesses

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Here is a brief article by Josh Buice; pt1
In recent days, I have been receiving repetitive visits to my home from the local Jehovah’s Witnesses in our community. I have purposely decided to continue a conversation with these people regarding the deity of Christ as opposed to slamming the door in their face (as I shouted cult). I view it as an easy opportunity to do evangelism, especially since they are coming to my door to talk about Jehovah. Just this past week, as I was taking a break from my yard work on Saturday, I had just sat down to eat lunch when the doorbell rang. As I approached the door, I immediately recognized this person as a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I took time to speak with the young man about the deity of Christ and soon he was joined by a couple of others. After a few additional minutes of dialogue, they agreed to return to my home tonight for an open Bible study on the deity of Christ. As they left my door on Saturday, I remembered that it’s very close to the celebration of Resurrection Sunday and the cults are known to make attacks upon Jesus around Easter and Christmas.

I’ve been thinking about my approach to this group of people over coffee this evening. You may know that the Jehovah’s Witnesses prepare for hours before approaching your door, but sadly, we spend very little time preparing for their visits. Before calling the local Kingdom Hall and inviting them over for a Bible study, take time to prepare. I have developed a quick five step approach that will allow you to share the gospel with any member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come knocking on your door. Remember, they have strange views of eternity, they deny hell, and many other biblical doctrines. But, keep your focus on Christ when you seek to evangelize a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

1 – The Bible Says Jesus Is God
Although John 1:1 is considered to be the most popular claim of Jesus’ deity in the New Testament, perhaps no claim is greater than John 8:58 where Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” He was clearly connecting Himself to the “I AM” of Exodus 3:13-15. Below is a listing of verses that likewise point to the deity of Jesus.

John 1:1 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 20:28 – Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Titus 2:13 – waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ
2 Peter 1:1 – Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ
Romans 9:5 – To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
Colossians 1:16 – For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.
Philippians 2:5-6 – Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, [6] who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped
John 8:58-59 – Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” [59] So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
John 18:6 – When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.
Isaiah 9:6 – For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
2 – The Bible Teaches Monotheism
From the very beginning, God has revealed Himself as one God. Likewise, He has drawn a line in the sand forbidding His children from worshipping any other god (Exodus 20). The revelation of God as one, (rather than multiple gods), is referred to as monotheism. The doctrine of the Trinity is not a denial of monotheism, as the Jehovah’s Witnesses claim, but a revelation of the three divine persons of the one true God (Father, Son, and Spirit). As you will notice if you read the text of the New World Translation, they translate passages devoted to the Holy Spirit as “spirit” rather than “Spirit” because they teach that the Spirit of God is a force rather than a divine person. Orthodox Christianity believes that God exists as one God in three divine persons and this is known as monotheism. God the Father is no more God than the Son. The Son is no more God than the Spirit. The Spirit is no more God than the Father or the Son. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal and they all three make up the one true God of Scripture.

3 – The Watchtower Teaches Polytheism
As evidenced from the name of their organization, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are passionate about Jehovah (God). They operate a massive printing organization founded by Charles Taze Russell known as The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. They consider themselves to be monotheists in their theological positions. However, an honest examination of John 1:1 translated in the New World Translation denies monotheism. According to the New World Translation John 1:1 reads, “In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” According to the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Jesus is a created being, namely Michael the archangel. They claim that Jesus was created as a “lesser god” but He is not the divine God Almighty – Jehovah. For Jesus to be “a god” as opposed to the God as the original Greek actually reveals, the Watchtower organization, by their interpretation of John 1:1 (a god), is forced to embrace a polytheistic view of God. At this point, the very people who consider themselves to be champions for monotheism, must acknowledge polytheism as they deny the deity of Christ.

4 – Jesus Is Not Michael
The Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that Jesus is a created “spirit being” of Jehovah. They claim that upon earth, Jesus came as Michael the archangel to do the work of God. However, that can easily be proven false by looking at a couple of verses of Scripture.

 

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I've been dealing with the JW's for over 60 years now and I will give you a short of version cutting to the chase so to speak. You need to control the conversation. So, say to them that in their NWT at John 1:1 Jesus is identified as "a god." Then quote them Isaiah 44:24. In fact have them read it from their own Bible. It says God created all alone and by Himself.

Then go back to John 1:3 and ask them why is Jesus identified as the creator? Also, in their NWT at Colossians 1:16 the NWT says Jesus created "all other things." Ask them if Jehovah created all things all alone and by Himself what are these other things that Jesus created. Keep harping God creating alone and by Himself. i have to run right now.

IN GOD THE SON,
james

 

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I've been dealing with the JW's for over 60 years now and I will give you a short of version cutting to the chase so to speak. You need to control the conversation. So, say to them that in their NWT at John 1:1 Jesus is identified as "a god." Then quote them Isaiah 44:24. In fact have them read it from their own Bible. It says God created all alone and by Himself.

Then go back to John 1:3 and ask them why is Jesus identified as the creator? Also, in their NWT at Colossians 1:16 the NWT says Jesus created "all other things." Ask them if Jehovah created all things all alone and by Himself what are these other things that Jesus created. Keep harping God creating alone and by Himself. i have to run right now.

IN GOD THE SON,
james

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Jude 9 – But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, was disputing about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a blasphemous judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you.”

Notice that Michael did not rebuke the devil. He said, “The Lord rebuke you.” How does this square with the rest of the New Testament regarding the interaction of Jesus with demonic beings, including Satan?

In Mark 3, the demons fell down before Jesus in submission to His sovereignty.

Mark 3:11 – And whenever the unclean spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, “You are the Son of God.”

In Luke 8, the demons were fearful of their coming judgment by Jesus.

Luke 8:28 – When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell down before him and said with a loud voice, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, do not torment me.”

In Matthew 4, Jesus rebuked Satan himself during His temptation. He quoted Scripture and then finally rebuked him.

Matthew 4:10-11 – Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’” [11] Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him.

The power and authority of Jesus in the revelation of the New Testament does not harmonize with the lack of authority attributed to Michael in Jude 9.

5 – The Bible Says Jesus Is Jehovah
The New World Translation’s perversion of John 1:1 is one of the clearest proof texts revealing the heresy of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. However, if that verse is your only tactic in reaching out to the members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, you will likely not be very successful in your attempt to convince them of their heresy. Why? Because they are often brain washed on their perversion of John 1:1 and ready to give their answers when asked. What they are often not prepared to give an answer for is that Jesus is Jehovah and the Bible reveals this in several different passages, even from their own perverted translation.

According to the Watchtower organization, “Jesus is Jehovah’s most precious Son—and for good reason. He is called ‘the firstborn of all creation,’ for he was God’s first creation.” However, when sharing the gospel with a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, it’s extremely important to read and interpret the Bible within the context of the paragraph of the verse as opposed to picking and choosing random verses from various locations. Below are two specific examples where the New Testament quotes the Old Testament and makes the claim that Jesus is Jehovah.

Psalm 102:25-27 – Of old you laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. [26] They will perish, but you will remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away, [27] but you are the same, and your years have no end.

Psalm 102 is clearly speaking about Jehovah and the context of Psalm 102 verse 1 reveals it by referencing – “the LORD” which is a direct reference to Yahweh, or as the Jehovah’s Witnesses prefer to call him—Jehovah.

Hebrews 1:6-14 – And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” [7] Of the angels he says, “He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.” [8] But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. [9] You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.” [10] And, “You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; [11] they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, [12] like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.” [13] And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? [14] Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

Hebrews 1 clearly reveals that Jesus is superior to angels and that He is God. Notice that Psalm 102, a passage devoted to Jehovah, is quoted as a revelation of Jesus in Hebrews 1.

 

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John 12:36-43 – While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” When Jesus had said these things, he departed and hid himself from them. [37] Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, [38] so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: “Lord, who has believed what he heard from us, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” [39] Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said, [40] “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.” [41] Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him. [42] Nevertheless, many even of the authorities believed in him, but for fear of the Pharisees they did not confess it, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue; [43] for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from God.

John quotes from Isaiah 6:1-10 as a direct means of identifying Jesus as Jehovah.

As the Lord affords you opportunities to evangelize members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, you must do so with love and clarity. However, we must not allow people to deny the deity of Christ and remain neutral. In his book Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis makes this profound statement, “A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg-or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us.”

For more on the Jehovah’s Witnesses:

James White’s Debate With Greg Stafford
Vintage James White – Explaining Errors of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
Got Questions
Print Friendly, PDF & Email

 

[Iconoclast]

I've been dealing with the JW's for over 60 years now and I will give you a short of version cutting to the chase so to speak. You need to control the conversation. So, say to them that in their NWT at John 1:1 Jesus is identified as "a god." Then quote them Isaiah 44:24. In fact have them read it from their own Bible. It says God created all alone and by Himself.

Then go back to John 1:3 and ask them why is Jesus identified as the creator? Also, in their NWT at Colossians 1:16 the NWT says Jesus created "all other things." Ask them if Jehovah created all things all alone and by Himself what are these other things that Jesus created. Keep harping God creating alone and by Himself. i have to run right now.

IN GOD THE SON,
james

Isa. 44:6 also is very helpful;
6 Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: `I [am] the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.

 

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pt3
John 12:36-43 – While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” When Jesus had said these things, he departed and hid himself from them. [37] Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, [38] so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled: “Lord, who has believed what he heard from us, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” [39] Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said, [40] “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.” [41] Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory and spoke of him. [42] Nevertheless, many even of the authorities believed in him, but for fear of the Pharisees they did not confess it, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue; [43] for they loved the glory that comes from man more than the glory that comes from God.

John quotes from Isaiah 6:1-10 as a direct means of identifying Jesus as Jehovah.

As the Lord affords you opportunities to evangelize members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, you must do so with love and clarity. However, we must not allow people to deny the deity of Christ and remain neutral. In his book Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis makes this profound statement, “A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg-or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us.”

For more on the Jehovah’s Witnesses:

James White’s Debate With Greg Stafford
Vintage James White – Explaining Errors of the Jehovah’s Witnesses
Got Questions
Print Friendly, PDF & Email

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES VS CHRISTIANITY. JAMES WHITE VS GREG STAFFORD THE ENTIER DEBATE.

 

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Isa. 44:6 also is very helpful;
6 Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: `I [am] the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.

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Isaiah 44:6

Is. 44:6 is a "pronoun confusion" trick. It's poor, but some trinitarians are actually desperate enough for "evidence" to use it anyway. Is. 44:6 in the American Standard Version (ASV) says, "Thus saith Jehovah [the LORD - KJV], the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts...." The "proof" here, according to a few trinitarians, is that there are two `different' Jehovahs [LORDs] mentioned! And one is the redeemer of the other!

The trick here is that these trinitarians pretend the pronoun "his" refers to Jehovah when it actually refers to Israel. The following trinitarian Bibles, however, actually translate it correctly (e.g., "Thus says the LORD, Israel's King and redeemer, the LORD of hosts" - NAB): NIV, JB, LB, GNB, REB, NJB, and Moffatt. And the trinitarian Bibles which use capitalized pronouns for God ("Me, My, He, His," etc.) also show, by their lack of capitalization, that "his" refers to Israel in this scripture: "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts" - NASB (see also MLB, Beck, and Young translations).

 

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Isaiah 44:6

Is. 44:6 is a "pronoun confusion" trick. It's poor, but some trinitarians are actually desperate enough for "evidence" to use it anyway. Is. 44:6 in the American Standard Version (ASV) says, "Thus saith Jehovah [the LORD - KJV], the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts...." The "proof" here, according to a few trinitarians, is that there are two `different' Jehovahs [LORDs] mentioned! And one is the redeemer of the other!

The trick here is that these trinitarians pretend the pronoun "his" refers to Jehovah when it actually refers to Israel. The following trinitarian Bibles, however, actually translate it correctly (e.g., "Thus says the LORD, Israel's King and redeemer, the LORD of hosts" - NAB): NIV, JB, LB, GNB, REB, NJB, and Moffatt. And the trinitarian Bibles which use capitalized pronouns for God ("Me, My, He, His," etc.) also show, by their lack of capitalization, that "his" refers to Israel in this scripture: "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts" - NASB (see also MLB, Beck, and Young translations).

nice try, this is youngs translation. Israel was the "Covenant Son, typifying Jesus as the True Israel.

Jehovah is King, Jehovah is Redeemer, they speak of Jesus. the first and the last.

 

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Post 1 above:

1 – The Bible Says Jesus Is God
Although John 1:1 is considered to be the most popular claim of Jesus’ deity in the New Testament, perhaps no claim is greater than John 8:58 where Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” He was clearly connecting Himself to the “I AM” of Exodus 3:13-15. Below is a listing of verses that likewise point to the deity of Jesus.

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The proof of what John intended at John 1:1c can be found in my personal study here: Examining the Trinity: John 1:1c Primer - For Grammatical Rules That Supposedly "Prove" the Trinity . This is the shortened form of my original 50+ page study. It's still too long for trinitarians, however. I have never had one actually reply to the facts concerning the actual grammar used by John in John 1:1c. Instead, I always get misdirection, or just insults.

 

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Post 1 above:

1 – The Bible Says Jesus Is God
Although John 1:1 is considered to be the most popular claim of Jesus’ deity in the New Testament, perhaps no claim is greater than John 8:58 where Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” He was clearly connecting Himself to the “I AM” of Exodus 3:13-15. Below is a listing of verses that likewise point to the deity of Jesus.

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The proof of what John intended at John 1:1c can be found in my personal study here: Examining the Trinity: John 1:1c Primer - For Grammatical Rules That Supposedly "Prove" the Trinity . This is the shortened form of my original 50+ page study. It's still too long for trinitarians, however. I have never had one actually reply to the facts concerning the actual grammar used by John in John 1:1c. Instead, I always get misdirection, or just insults.

Are you a Jehovah's Witness that believes that Jesus Christ is "a god" and that Jesus is also Michael the archangel? Just asking so I know who I'm dealing with.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

[jacko]

Bad theology, but you gotta admit JW, those dudes put in work!
In my teenage years, I was in a. Street gang….. putting in work ..was a common theme..

 

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Are you a Jehovah's Witness that believes that Jesus Christ is "a god" and that Jesus is also Michael the archangel? Just asking so I know who I'm dealing with.

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

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Regardless of who or what I am, the subject is clear: John's intent for John 1:1c.
"I have never had one actually reply to the facts concerning the actual grammar used by John in John 1:1c. Instead, I always get misdirection, or just insults."

Try to question my points found in the link above (starting at the beginning) one point at a time.

 

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"I c." So, instead of focusing or isolating on the words/1:c, "and the Word was God" how about considering the context of John 1:1/

Genesis 1:1 states, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The definite article "in" is supplied, just like it is supplied at John 1:1. In other words, both verses start out the same way. Yet the main thought at Genesis 1:1 is "WHAT HAPPENED in the beginning.

The emphasis on John 1:1 is on WHO EXISTED in the beginning. So, if you posit that the Word is "divine" or "a god" it would not make any sense that "a divine" person or "a god" was in the beginning with God and is clearly identified as God at John 1:1. John 1:2 backs this up with, "He, or "that one" was in the beginning with God. Moreover, John 1:3 declares that "All things came into being by Him, etc. A created divine person or "a god" does not fit the context, period.

In fact , the "Word of God" thus was there before the creation of the space, mass, time and universe. This means that John's beginning even antecedes the Genesis "beginning" extending without an initial beginning into eternity past, before even time was created. Note also John 17:24, where Jesus, in His humanity, acknowledged that He was with the Father, and loved by the Father, "before the foundation of the world." Now what?

IN GOD THE SON,
bluto

 

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Regardless of who or what I am, the subject is clear: John's intent for John 1:1c.
"I have never had one actually reply to the facts concerning the actual grammar used by John in John 1:1c. Instead, I always get misdirection, or just insults."

Try to question my points found in the link above (starting at the beginning) one point at a time.

Pulpit Commentary
Verses 6-20. - A FURTHER CONTRAST OF GOD WITH IDOLS. The captive Jews, dwelling scattered in a land the inhabitants of which were, one and all, idolaters, and having by hereditary taint an inclination to idolatry, would be easily tempted, during the long and weary period of the Captivity, to put away the worship and even the thought of Jehovah, who had allowed their subjugation, and conform to the religion of their conquerors. Hence the repeated contrasts in these later chapters - specially addressed to caprice Israel - between Jehovah and idols, and the sharp ridicule of the latter (comp. Isaiah 40:18-25; Isaiah 41:4-7, 21-29). Verse 6. - The Lord the King of Israel. Therefore entitled to Israel's allegiance (comp. Isaiah 43:15). And his Redeemer; i.e. Israel's Redeemer - he who had redeemed them from Egyptian bondage - who will redeem them from the power of Babylon - who, best of all, will redeem them from their sins. The First... the Last (comp. Isaiah 41:4, with the comment). Beside me there is no God. This had been distinctly asserted in the Law (Deuteronomy 4:35, 39; Deuteronomy 32:39); but Israel could not be induced practically to believe it. The "gods of the nations" were supposed generally to be realities, actual powers, not perhaps so potent as Jehovah, but still real beings, capable of doing good and harm (see Isaiah 41:23). It is one of Isaiah's special objects in these later chapters to disabuse Israel of this notion (see Isaiah 41:21-24; Isaiah 43:9-11; Isaiah 45:5, 6, 14-22, etc.). Isaiah 44:6

 

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Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament
A new pledge of redemption is given, and a fresh exhortation to trust in Jehovah; the wretchedness of the idols and their worshippers being pointed out, in contrast with Jehovah, the only speaking and acting God. Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith Jehovah the King of Israel, and its Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts; I am first, and I last; and beside me there is no God." The fact that His deity, which rules over not only the natural world, but history as well, is thus without equal and above all time, is now proved by Him from the fact that He alone manifests Himself as God, and that by the utterance of prophecy. Isaiah 44:7 "And who preaches as I do? Let him make it known, and show it to me; since I founded the people of ancient time! And future things, and what is approaching, let them only make known." Jehovah shows Himself as the God of prophecy since the time that He founded עם־עולם (יקרא refers to the continued preaching of prophecy). ‛Am‛ōlâm is the epithet applied in Ezekiel 26:20 to the people of the dead, who are sleeping the long sleep of the grave; and here it does not refer to Israel, which could neither be called an "eternal" nation, nor a people of the olden time, and which would have been more directly named; but according to Isaiah 40:7 and Isaiah 42:5, where ‛am signifies the human race, and Job 22:15., where ‛ōlâm is the time of the old world before the flood, it signifies humanity as existing from the very earliest times. The prophecies of Jehovah reach back even to the history of paradise. The parenthetical clause, "Let him speak it out, and tell it me," is like the apodosis of a hypothetical protasis: "if any one thinks that he can stand by my side." The challenge points to earlier prophecies; with ואתיּות it takes a turn to what is future, אתיות itself denoting what is absolutely future, according to Isaiah 41:23, and תּבאנה אשׁר what is about to be realized immediately; lâmō is an ethical dative.

 

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It's still too long for trinitarians

what do you mean by "trinitarians"?

 

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Post 1 above:

1 – The Bible Says Jesus Is God
Although John 1:1 is considered to be the most popular claim of Jesus’ deity in the New Testament, perhaps no claim is greater than John 8:58 where Jesus said, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” He was clearly connecting Himself to the “I AM” of Exodus 3:13-15. Below is a listing of verses that likewise point to the deity of Jesus.

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The proof of what John intended at John 1:1c can be found in my personal study here: Examining the Trinity: John 1:1c Primer - For Grammatical Rules That Supposedly "Prove" the Trinity . This is the shortened form of my original 50+ page study. It's still too long for trinitarians, however. I have never had one actually reply to the facts concerning the actual grammar used by John in John 1:1c. Instead, I always get misdirection, or just insults.

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The very first part of my study of John's use of grammar in John 1:1c is:

"The NT Greek word for "God" and "god" is theos (θεὸς). In the writings of the Gospel writers (including John) when an unmodified theos (the form used for subjects and predicate nouns) is accompanied by the article, "the" (ὁ [pronounced ho] in Greek), and has no added phrases (e.g., "the god of this world"), then it always refers to the only true God."

In order to discuss this study, we must agree or disagree with each conclusion and give examples which disagree.

 

[Slimsumo]

Bad theology, but you gotta admit JW, those dudes put in work!
In my teenage years, I was in a. Street gang….. putting in work ..was a common theme..

Fellow gangbangers here! Hahaha. Yeah they do put in work. I live in the city centre and I walk outside and on the main street there are like 3 different spots they hang out at.

Sometimes I feel guilty I dont put in the same amount of hours. Why don't we do it as often as the JWs? Whats wrong with us?

 

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The very first part of my study of John's use of grammar in John 1:1c is:

"The NT Greek word for "God" and "god" is theos (θεὸς). In the writings of the Gospel writers (including John) when an unmodified theos (the form used for subjects and predicate nouns) is accompanied by the article, "the" (ὁ [pronounced ho] in Greek), and has no added phrases (e.g., "the god of this world"), then it always refers to the only true God."

In order to discuss this study, we must agree or disagree with each conclusion and give examples which disagree.

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The second part reads:
"But Jn 1:1c has an unmodified "theos" without the article. Therefore, even some trinitarian scholars are forced to admit that this passage may be literally translated as "the Word was a god"!
This includes W. E. Vine (An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words);
Dr. C. H. Dodd (director of the New English Bible project);
Murray J. Harris (Jesus as God);
Dr. Robert Young (Young's Concise Critical Bible Commentary);
Rev. J. W. Wenham, The Elements of New Testament Greek.

"Of course, being trinitarians, they often insist that the correct interpretation of such a literal translation must be, somehow, trinitarian."