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Whoa whoa wait, the "enemy" is the U.S. government? I totally thought my pastor was talking about the devil!

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Bushido,

The US is the lamb like Beast in Daniel/Revelation along with Papal Rome. God did say, Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is a number of a man and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18 KJV. The meeting that our president is going have next week with the pope will become a life changing event on a global scale. Tighten up your armor.
 
so the pyre just happens to be in front of a giant stone owl disguised to look as if they are making an offering in front of the owl or to the owl. doesnt make sense to me.

so when the bible says the descendants of canaan are still here to this day, a curse on canaan, tells us the canaanits kings names which translate to titles such as rebeller of the Most High" or "in the evil" , they are one of the few, maybe only cultures the Almighty Himself ordered to be exterminated, your thoughts are these things have no significance whats so ever and should just be ignored because any Canaanites that are around today are just minding their own business.
i personally think these lessons given to us by our Lord should be studied and not ignored.

the owl is a character with a speaking part in the grove play so that is why it is near the other props including the pyre...

taking the whole bible into account...the scriptural opposition to the people of canaan clearly has its limits...especially in our new testament era... for one thing there are canaanites in the messianic bloodline...and jesus ministered to canaanites and made converts among them... these are lessons from God that -also- need to be studied and not ignored...

-especially- given what has been already shown about the lack of any kind of owl idolatry in canaanite religion...
 
The cremation of care play is a symbolic cremation symbolizing Bohemian Club members (and note that they publish a list of members and guests for attendees of their annual event each year at the Grove) as banishing the "dull cares" of conscience.

You know Professor Anthony C. Sutton did some interesting scholarly research on the grove after his research fellow position at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He was the author of 'America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones.'

After careful research into the goings on at the Grove, he concluded "We dismissed the behavior as immature, even pitiful by emotionally disturbed juveniles and not worth attention. This is where Kissinger, Ford, Nixon, Bechtel, Bush, Cheney, Hoover and their friends (2600 members) hang out and 'relax.' And if they want to behave as little boys that is their privilege."

this is basically the same conclusion i reached after doing real research on the bohemian grove stuff...

we are talking about a retreat whose stated highest value is 'the right of a man to urinate wherever he wants'

it is a glorified fraternity for rich and powerful people...
 
i have no problem with people 'connecting the dots' regarding corruption in circles of wealth and privilege and political power...

my problem is that conspiracy theorists usually start by drawing the picture they expect to see and then make their own dots to fit it...
 
Bushido,

The US is the lamb like Beast in Daniel/Revelation along with Papal Rome. God did say, Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is a number of a man and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Revelation 13:18 KJV. The meeting that our president is going have next week with the pope will become a life changing event on a global scale. Tighten up your armor.

the united states is not the second beast in revelation...the second beast in revelation represents false christianity...the united states is not in scripture...

and regarding your prediction about francis meeting with obama...that's another stone for my pile...
 
the owl is a character with a speaking part in the grove play so that is why it is near the other props including the pyre...

taking the whole bible into account...the scriptural opposition to the people of canaan clearly has its limits...especially in our new testament era... for one thing there are canaanites in the messianic bloodline...and jesus ministered to canaanites and made converts among them... these are lessons from God that -also- need to be studied and not ignored...

-especially- given what has been already shown about the lack of any kind of owl idolatry in canaanite religion...

i agree with you, or want to anyway. i used to rack my brain over this issue. the thought that some were created within a curse, pre destined to severe judgment.

there as something going on with canaan, something bad. i think the bible makes this very clear. i think the curse is in the bloodline and it may not affect all of them. king david was close friends with a philistine king, they were close as brothers. their belief system was related, maybe the same as the Canaanites. so why would david be friends with someone so evil? the king was apparently a good king and i would conclude not under the curse. there is no contradiction here, but there is more to it than we can see, or i can see anyway. like you said, limited.

back to the owl. is it from canaan? i cant prove it so maybe yes maybe no. but i strongly believe the babalonian greek and roman belief systems all root back to canaan. the owl was big in greek belief as we discussed b4, it was also symbolized in many Babylonian tablets.
all these systems are evil and i think they are still here today.
 
the united states is not the second beast in revelation...the second beast in revelation represents false christianity...the united states is not in scripture...

and regarding your prediction about francis meeting with obama...that's another stone for my pile...

i think todays Christianity has fallen far from the days of Jesus and the 1st churches the 12 established
 
They're not asserting political and financial corruption amongst wealthy and often political members of a private club but rather that the Bohemian Club is a secret Satanic society that sacrifices children during their annual Grove event.

Then when you show them their not just wrong but patently so, they "turtle" into a state of complete and utter denial and engage in fallaciousness. I don't mind deluded people (often who struggle with mental illness) making fantastic false assertions. I do; however, mind them rejecting the evidence which refutes them to continue living in a state of denial and hiding behind fallacious reasoning. And that's why they end up on ignore like jay just has.


i have no problem with people 'connecting the dots' regarding corruption in circles of wealth and privilege and political power...

my problem is that conspiracy theorists usually start by drawing the picture they expect to see and then make their own dots to fit it...
 
i agree with you, or want to anyway. i used to rack my brain over this issue. the thought that some were created within a curse, pre destined to severe judgment.

there as something going on with canaan, something bad. i think the bible makes this very clear. i think the curse is in the bloodline and it may not affect all of them. king david was close friends with a philistine king, they were close as brothers. their belief system was related, maybe the same as the Canaanites. so why would david be friends with someone so evil? the king was apparently a good king and i would conclude not under the curse. there is no contradiction here, but there is more to it than we can see, or i can see anyway. like you said, limited.

back to the owl. is it from canaan? i cant prove it so maybe yes maybe no. but i strongly believe the babalonian greek and roman belief systems all root back to canaan. the owl was big in greek belief as we discussed b4, it was also symbolized in many Babylonian tablets.
all these systems are evil and i think they are still here today.

I seriously doubt that. Babylonian beliefs preceeded Canaanite beliefs. Also, while the Roman and Greek belief systems all go back to something earlier than themselves, something derived from the Ancient Near East, this is only in the sense that the genesis of pagan gods and goddesses manifested at the tower of Babel, or not long after.
 
I seriously doubt that. Babylonian beliefs preceeded Canaanite beliefs. Also, while the Roman and Greek belief systems all go back to something earlier than themselves, something derived from the Ancient Near East, this is only in the sense that the genesis of pagan gods and goddesses manifested at the tower of Babel, or not long after.

why would you think that? i agree that mainstream textbook teachings all agreed that sumeria was the birthplace of civilization for many years but in the last 20 years up till now they no longer believe this. malta and turkey have both been confirmed to be much older and there are others.
if the pagan /false god stuff was a result of the curse on canaan it would mean it all had to begin with him.
 
It doesn't matter if the character/idol is fictional or not because most false gods are not real entities in the first place.

The fact still remains it is idol worship being done there and it is a sacrifice and not a exorcism.
You do not throw a persons body into a fire to be completely burned up in a exorcism, and that excuse makes absolutely no sense. Especially since as I have repeated before a few employees have come out and disclosed the truth of what goes on there.

The articles others are referring to was their way of trying to hide the truth and discredit those that brought the truth to the light.

I for one do not believe in everything Alex Jones says, but he was one of the first one's to sneak a hidden camera in the Bohemian grove by putting it on a employee. There is a good length video on this exposing of the grove that can easily be watched by anybody.

the idol is fiction, the being it represents is not. false gods and fictional characters are 2 different things. spiderman is a fictional character, Satan, demons, and fallen angels are very real. Satan is the father of lies, a deceiver, he masquerades as an angel of light. and to those he deceives he is a god, to us a false god but very real.
IMO when our Lord tells us not to have other gods before Him, He is referring to these beings.
AgeofKnowledge argument makes no sense. a fictional non existent character would not be a threat to turn me from my Lord. which would make the 2nd commandment pointless. http://christianchat.com/member.php?u=15142