911 Road to Tyranny, What Did You Learn?

[ZNP]

I don't and won't.

But you will let the same people who destroyed the evidence from 911 tell you what is and is not "the official explanation" while telling those who question it that "they don't have any evidence" because they seized the evidence with the US military and destroyed it. Regardless of what you think happened, it was not Al Qaeda that seized that evidence, guarded it, refused to let the investigators see it, and then had it melted down.

 

[NightTwister]

But you will let the same people who destroyed the evidence from 911 tell you what is and is not "the official explanation" while telling those who question it that "they don't have any evidence" because they seized the evidence with the US military and destroyed it. Regardless of what you think happened, it was not Al Qaeda that seized that evidence, guarded it, refused to let the investigators see it, and then had it melted down.

 

[ZNP]

The steel: recovery, custody, and export​

• After the collapse, the WTC steel debris was treated as evidence and cleanup material simultaneously. Some structural steel was initially secured at Fresh Kills Landfill on Staten Island, where FBI and NYPD personnel sorted through debris for human remains and evidence (like parts of the aircraft).
• Most of the roughly 300,000+ tons of structural steel was sold as scrap. Because Fresh Kills and Ground Zero itself were controlled/secured sites (guarded by police, National Guard, and other personnel for security and evidence-integrity reasons, not specifically to guard "the steel" as a category), controlled access is accurate, but it applied to the whole site, not a separate covert chain of custody for steel alone.
• Scrap dealers, including Hugo Neu Schnitzer East and others, purchased much of the steel. Some was recycled domestically; a significant amount was shipped overseas as scrap steel, including to China and India, where scrap steel was in high demand for domestic steel production. This export is well documented in contemporaneous news reporting (New York Times, and others) and isn't disputed.

How you'd actually test steel for thermite evidence​

If you had steel samples in hand, here's how a forensic materials scientist would approach determining whether thermite (an iron oxide + aluminum incendiary reaction) had been involved:


1. Microstructural analysis (metallography)

• Cross-section the steel and examine grain structure under optical and scanning electron microscopy (SEM).
• Thermite reactions burn extremely hot (~2500°C) and would leave localized melting, unusual grain coarsening, or eutectic microstructures distinct from the more uniform heating patterns of a structure fire or from cutting-torch damage.

2. Elemental and chemical residue analysis

• Energy-dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (EDS) or X-ray fluorescence (XRF) to look for residual elements characteristic of thermite byproducts: elevated aluminum, iron-aluminum intermetallics, or sulfur/potassium compounds if a sulfur-enhanced "thermate" variant was used.
• Presence of spherical iron-rich microspheres (a signature some independent researchers pointed to) would be checked via SEM imaging, since thermite reactions can produce molten iron droplets that solidify into spheres.

3. Comparative controls

• Run identical tests on steel known to have been exposed only to hydrocarbon fire and impact damage, and on steel from a controlled thermite demonstration, to compare microstructure and residue signatures against the WTC samples. Without a clean baseline, any anomaly is hard to interpret.

4. Chain of custody and sampling documentation

• Note where on the structure each sample originated (which floor, which fire zone), since that context is necessary to determine whether an anomaly is explainable by ordinary fire behavior versus something unexplained.

 

[Billyd]

Maybe the conspiracy nuts should take a close look at the damage that a 500-pound FAE bomb can do. Scale that up to one the size of a passenger jet.

 

[ZNP]

Maybe the conspiracy nuts should take a close look at the damage that a 500-pound FAE bomb can do. Scale that up to one the size of a passenger jet.

What conspiracy nuts? It is simply common sense that you don't accept the "official report" about what happened from the same people who destroyed evidence? They had the evidence that would have proven their claim and if they had let people see it rather than guard it with the military and melt it down, destroying any evidence there wouldn't be any conspiracy nuts.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Maybe the conspiracy nuts should take a close look at the damage that a 500-pound FAE bomb can do. Scale that up to one the size of a passenger jet.

What escalated the thread to name calling?
I know this can be an emotional and polarizing topic. If there's something specific you disagree with, feel free to provide details.

 

[gb9]

What conspiracy nuts? It is simply common sense that you don't accept the "official report" about what happened from the same people who destroyed evidence? They had the evidence that would have proven their claim and if they had let people see it rather than guard it with the military and melt it down, destroying any evidence there wouldn't be any conspiracy nuts.

well said!

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

I think the date 9/11 has to do with either a type of ritual or judgement.9/11 is the month and day I was saved.Also the same day I had a 5,6 hour spiritual battle.I was thrown into the fire so to speak.God placed it in my heart just 5,6 days prior to pick up and read the Bible.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think the date 9/11 has to do with either a type of ritual or judgement.9/11 is the month and day I was saved.Also the same day I had a 5,6 hour spiritual battle.I was thrown into the fire so to speak.God placed it in my heart just 5,6 days prior to pick up and read the Bible.

I agree because it could not be a coincidence that "Emergency 9//"
could coincide with the multi symbolic representation of the deep state toppling the twin towers that are the 11.
Have you seen the predictive programming video that I posted a while back. It shows numerous references to that number. This tells me that some powerful people in media and governments consider this number something magical.

That's a blessing to have that as your spiritual birthday.
That's easily remembered and shows the Lord's victory over death and Satan. Tell me more about how you got saved my brother.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think the date 9/11 has to do with either a type of ritual or judgement.9/11 is the month and day I was saved.Also the same day I had a 5,6 hour spiritual battle.I was thrown into the fire so to speak.God placed it in my heart just 5,6 days prior to pick up and read the Bible.

My opinion is that there really is spiritual warfare always going on. You see more of it's effects when wars ramp up, political changes , then there are the days considered unholy days by the satanic religions like Halloween and Winter Solstice. These are times set aside by devil worshippers who focus their attention and activities on them. The demon spirits oblige by getting motivated to take advantage of that human interaction.

Here's that video on the trade towers and 911 predictive programming I mentioned previously. You'll likely see the connection.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

And yet none were, just like the reports confirmed, despite what "Roger" claims.

Correction:

I learned since I posted the interview with Roger Waters that he quoted Dr Alan Sobroski, professor at the Army War College, if that has any more cred. He said that " if one building was controlled demolition then ALL the buildings were controlled demolition. "

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

I agree because it could not be a coincidence that "Emergency 9//"
could coincide with the multi symbolic representation of the deep state toppling the twin towers that are the 11.
Have you seen the predictive programming video that I posted a while back. It shows numerous references to that number. This tells me that some powerful people in media and governments consider this number something magical.

That's a blessing to have that as your spiritual birthday.
That's easily remembered and shows the Lord's victory over death and Satan. Tell me more about how you got saved my brother.

I wouldn't even know where to start to be honest.

 

[Lifted_by_the_word]

My opinion is that there really is spiritual warfare always going on. You see more of it's effects when wars ramp up, political changes , then there are the days considered unholy days by the satanic religions like Halloween and Winter Solstice. These are times set aside by devil worshippers who focus their attention and activities on them. The demon spirits oblige by getting motivated to take advantage of that human interaction.

Here's that video on the trade towers and 911 predictive programming I mentioned previously. You'll likely see the connection.

There is always a spiritual battle going on 100%.I remember the thread or a topic leading to knowing your enemy and there were some brothers and sisters who would disregard it.
Meanwhile the Israelites sent 2 spies into Jericho?!

Google molech.watch a youtube video on him.Know your enemy.That's why they're able to flaunt all this stuff in our face cause we're to ignorant.

 

[ZNP]

There is always a spiritual battle going on 100%.I remember the thread or a topic leading to knowing your enemy and there were some brothers and sisters who would disregard it.
Meanwhile the Israelites sent 2 spies into Jericho?!

Google molech.watch a youtube video on him.Know your enemy.That's why they're able to flaunt all this stuff in our face cause we're to ignorant.

Yes, but it is fascinating to me. You would think something as big as 911 and people would actually spend the time to study it. Yet, there are two groups, there are those who accept the official explanation and rebuke the "conspiracy theorists" because all of their evidence is circumstantial. And then there are those who reject the official explanation because they destroyed all the evidence. What is fascinating is that the group that accepts the official explanation is more than 90% of the population, and the group that rejects it is less than 10% and more likely closer to 1%. That is what is stunning to me, to realize how many people are willing to blindly go along with whatever they are told.

It reminds me of Pauls word

20 For ye suffer, if a man bring you into bondage, if a man devour you, if a man take of you, if a man exalt himself, if a man smite you on the face.

911 was the justification for sending many kids to go fight against countries in the Middle East, dying, getting crippled and getting PTSD. It was followed with the Mortgage meltdown which stole their homes and brought them into debt. Which was followed by them whole heartedly following men who exalted themselves.

 

[Bible_Locket]

With the US Patriot Act and then the NDAA = National Defense Authorization Act, never underestimate government, any government, to show you that rights are permissions and their idea of freedom is slavery.

Don't ever let your government think you are let to be free! Ready yourself always to stay free!
At any cost.

Better to stand with Christ after the fight,than serve Earth's lord Satan on your knees in this life.

 

[HeIsHere]

What escalated the thread to name calling?
I know this can be an emotional and polarizing topic. If there's something specific you disagree with, feel free to provide details.

I have learned there is a lot more than meets the eye...... and false judgemental over used accusations is the goto maneuver by some people when they cannot bear the facts.

 

[HeIsHere]

I agree because it could not be a coincidence that "Emergency 9//"
could coincide with the multi symbolic representation of the deep state toppling the twin towers that are the 11.
Have you seen the predictive programming video that I posted a while back. It shows numerous references to that number. This tells me that some powerful people in media and governments consider this number something magical.

That's a blessing to have that as your spiritual birthday.
That's easily remembered and shows the Lord's victory over death and Satan. Tell me more about how you got saved my brother.

Something I read along the way a few years back about "humiliation rituals" made me wonder if 9/11 was one.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Something I read along the way a few years back about "humiliation rituals" made me wonder if 9/11 was one.

I know that GWBush and the other secret societies put their members through them to get control. I'm not sure how that major event was one.
Can you explain that?

 

[ZNP]

A "humiliation ritual" refers to a deliberate or systemic practice designed to break down a person's dignity, shame them publicly, and force submission. These acts typically fall into three distinct categories: institutional hazing, psychological abuse, and online cultural phenomena. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Imagine if you were somehow involved in 9/11. Perhaps at the time you were a useful idiot, but now if you blow the whistle you will either be castigated as having participated in the event or that you are complete idiot and useless at your job or that you are somehow delusional, spreading evil rumors.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

A "humiliation ritual" refers to a deliberate or systemic practice designed to break down a person's dignity, shame them publicly, and force submission. These acts typically fall into three distinct categories: institutional hazing, psychological abuse, and online cultural phenomena. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

Imagine if you were somehow involved in 9/11. Perhaps at the time you were a useful idiot, but now if you blow the whistle you will either be castigated as having participated in the event or that you are complete idiot and useless at your job or that you are somehow delusional, spreading evil rumors.

Are you applying this to the participants that carried out the mass murders on 911 or those who participated by signing onto the false flag instigated war that resulted?