A Perspective on Evolution

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I believe that man was:

  • Created in one day by God

    Votes: 19 63.3%
  • Created by God over millions of years via evolution

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Created accidentally by random processes over millions of years

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Created by extraterrestrials in an alien lab

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30
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DJB2034

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Well, I would say that your advice about how to read the bible should be completely disregarded then...
 
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DJB2034

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Your advice on how your advice should be regarded is also mistaken. lol
 
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Baptistrw

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Your advice on how your advice should be regarded is also mistaken. lol
To the ignorant scoffer perhaps, who knows nothing of hermeneutics. The Bible validates itself. From the words of CH Spurgeon..''Defend the Bible? I would just as soon defend a lion. Just turn the Bible loose. It will defend itself.''
 
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carpetmanswife

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The Bible validates itself. From the words of CH Spurgeon..''Defend the Bible? I would just as soon defend a lion. Just turn the Bible loose. It will defend itself.''
love love love it!!! 10 points for you there rw :)
 
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DJB2034

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To the ignorant scoffer perhaps, who knows nothing of hermeneutics. The Bible validates itself. From the words of CH Spurgeon..''Defend the Bible? I would just as soon defend a lion. Just turn the Bible loose. It will defend itself.''
Yeah, cuz it's so obvious that the world was made in 7 days and the first people to exist were Adam and Eve and each individual species was created separately and the earth is the center of the universe and all of life was wiped out by a flood and we are all currently descendants of Noah and his wife.... I mean, you don't need to defend the Bible. All of that is OBVIOUSLY true.
 
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DJB2034

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Look, Baptist, I have been warned about not being sarcastic before, but you seem like a sharp one so I'm sure that's not a problem with you.

I don't know why you think that a literal interpretation of Genesis is appropriate, but can you say that all the scientific evidence that contradicts a literal interpretation is mistaken?
 
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Baptistrw

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Yeah, cuz it's so obvious that the world was made in 7 days and the first people to exist were Adam and Eve and each individual species was created separately and the earth is the center of the universe and all of life was wiped out by a flood and we are all currently descendants of Noah and his wife.... I mean, you don't need to defend the Bible. All of that is OBVIOUSLY true.
Glad you agree, now you don't have to be wrong. :)
 
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Baptistrw

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Look, Baptist, I have been warned about not being sarcastic before, but you seem like a sharp one so I'm sure that's not a problem with you.

I don't know why you think that a literal interpretation of Genesis is appropriate, but can you say that all the scientific evidence that contradicts a literal interpretation is mistaken?
Yep, sure can.
 
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DJB2034

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Glad you agree, now you don't have to be wrong. :)
Hooray for ignoring critical thinking and logic! :)
 
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DJB2034

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2 Kings 2:23-24

"He went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, "Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!" And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys."

Gives Fear of God a whole new meaning... I sure am glad God sends bears to maul obnoxious children.

This story: Literal account or mythological aggrandization to prove a point?

Genesis: Literal account? (the answer is no)

Or a symbolic tale with layers of meaning?
 
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EconGrad

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The Bible should be interpreted in the grammatical-historical literal method unless the common reading makes no sense, then it should be interpreted as allegorical/metaphorical. Genesis is not metaphorical. The Bible is inerrant and infallible. The Bible is wrong in no way.
The Bible doesn't proclaim that it should only be interpreted in this way. The Christian tradition of Biblical interpretation includes more literary types than just history or allegory.

Your method of biblical interpretation may define your denomination but it is not normative or binding on the wider Christian community. It has not been binding on Christianity at any time from the founding until now.

Your community seems set to declare those who accept the theory of evolution as non-Christians. I think it's hard to argue God is incapable of inhabiting and sanctifying a person who looks at the evidence and honestly believes God's creation did not occur according to the Baptist interpretation of the two creation stories in Genesis.

There is no tradition nor church history of treating the current Baptist interpretation as an essential element of faith. We are not talking about the trinity, the nature of christ, the atonement, or salvation through grace here. We're talking about a disagreement on _HOW_ God created this universe and filled it. We're not in disagreement about God has creating all that exists.
 
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Baptistrw

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2 Kings 2:23-24

"He went up from there to Bethel; and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, "Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!" And he turned around, and when he saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. And two she-bears came out of the woods and tore forty-two of the boys."

Gives Fear of God a whole new meaning... I sure am glad God sends bears to maul obnoxious children.

This story: Literal account or mythological aggrandization to prove a point?

Genesis: Literal account? (the answer is no)

Or a symbolic tale with layers of meaning?
Literal account in narrative form to teach a lesson.
 
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Baptistrw

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The Bible doesn't proclaim that it should only be interpreted in this way. The Christian tradition of Biblical interpretation includes more literary types than just history or allegory.

Your method of biblical interpretation may define your denomination but it is not normative or binding on the wider Christian community. It has not been binding on Christianity at any time from the founding until now.

Your community seems set to declare those who accept the theory of evolution as non-Christians. I think it's hard to argue God is incapable of inhabiting and sanctifying a person who looks at the evidence and honestly believes God's creation did not occur according to the Baptist interpretation of the two creation stories in Genesis.

There is no tradition nor church history of treating the current Baptist interpretation as an essential element of faith. We are not talking about the trinity, the nature of christ, the atonement, or salvation through grace here. We're talking about a disagreement on _HOW_ God created this universe and filled it. We're not in disagreement about God has creating all that exists.
Naw, my methods have been around for ages, even Luther held to a grammatical historical interpretation. If you undermine Genesis you undermine the rest of scripture... And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, Matt 19:4 (KJV)


If God didn't make them in the beginning Jesus was either mistaken or wrong or ignorant of science.
 
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DJB2034

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Literal account in narrative form to teach a lesson.
Baptist.... I think you've pretty much undermined your own credibility.
 
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Baptistrw

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Baptist.... I think you've pretty much undermined your own credibility.
Naw, there are lessons to be learned in any passage of scripture, hence the term ''application''.
 
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DJB2034

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Ah. Well ya got me there.

So when's the last time you called on God to murder kids that annoyed you?
 
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suaso

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Whoops looks like I let loose a metaphorical WW3 on here with my post...yipes. As for your question, EconGrad, I'm not Lutheran, I am Catholic, so pretty close...we're like cousins!
 
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Baptistrw

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Ah. Well ya got me there.

So when's the last time you called on God to murder kids that annoyed you?
I teach middle schoolers on Wednesday nights you'd be surprised lol... jk!
 
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