A Petition For States To Secede On The White House Website

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The sword is but for one thing, defending the innocent, young, infirmed-(old,weak), and helpless.
Be that anybody who is being threatened by a greater force.
That is what America once stood for........sadly that is not what it stands for today(on a national level).
But almost every American still believes in those values.
I'm proud of the souls in my nation, (but I strongly disagree with the foreign policy of the government of the U.S.A.)
They are wholly separate.
 
RickShafer said:
The sword is but for one thing, defending the innocent, young, infirmed-(old,weak), and helpless.
Be that anybody who is being threatened by a greater force.
That is what America once stood for........sadly that is not what it stands for today(on a national level).
But almost every American still believes in those values.
I'm proud of the souls in my nation, (but I strongly disagree with the foreign policy of the government of the U.S.A.)
They are wholly separate.
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well from all that came to pass is the foreign policy born from.

like it or not that is the outcome.

which countries cause wars while they defend peace?



Is peace and safety a covert for "control"?

you will find lots of red white and blue flying... under that covert.
 
RickShafer said:
I know.
America has become what your country once was,.......an empire.
And I don't agree with it.
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this little isle does house some very influential people "of this world" indeed.

You see "ego and pride" becomes a person.

How then did they enslave us back under their rule?

It took time, it took war and oppression.

It took giving the slaves better "living" conditions.

It took playing on the "self" of a person.


When we read the Bible we see empires enslaving the people...

I ask, where did those empires go?

They all form the beast of Daniel.
 
Yes indeed.
Notice the Lion with Eagles wings.
I wonder what two countries those represent?
And we can go on from there.......but I will tarry.
 
RickShafer said:
Yes indeed.
Notice the Lion with Eagles wings.
I wonder what two countries those represent?
And we can go on from there.......but I will tarry.
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At first glance, we could be accused of going off topic.

May it be that something spoken may stop people partaking in this type of petition... i do believe it is a "seek out the resistance" exercise.
 
Oh, you mean that 'request' to leave????
Ha,ha,ha!!!
Yes......"May we secede?"
"We know you might not like it but we, .......really, really want to go."
Ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!
I'm sure it will be taken under consideration.:cool:
 
Many may not know this but should be made aware
Our own beloved US Military several months ago (before Obama's re-election---Coincidence?)
Purchased a very large sum of riot gear
Some questions to pose for ourselves
Does our military fight with riot gear?
How did we fight in Iraque? With riot gear or heavy artillery
Why would Millions of dollars of riot gear be needed as well as an addition to the MILITARY TRAINING MANUAL such as the Academy at West Point
in how to put it to use unless the Military is from now on preparing themselves for something....a little Closer to home

US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” outlines how military assets are to be used domestically to quell riots, confiscate firearms and even kill Americans on U.S. soil during mass civil unrest.

On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a,
“Warning shot will not be fired.”

Theyre already preparing for another civil war
As they know as well as we do, the only way to take back our own country now that its been infiltrated is to take up arms against the Tyranny of our own govt.
Yeah I said it
I wonder how many of our fellow Americans we grew up with will do the right thing and defend their own people as opposed to just following orders
 
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While we speak there are people being provoked to take matters into their own hands.

Those provoking them work for those they "appear" to be against.

Leading the sheep to slaughter.

Put your whole trust into Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 
MidniteWelder said:
Does our military fight with riot gear?
How did we fight in Iraque? With riot gear or heavy artillery
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First of all, it's spelled "Iraq." I know, it's funny to have a "q" without a "u" following, but that's the way it's spelled.

Secondly, yes, often times in Iraq the fighting is less like traditional war and more like a riotous uprising. US Soldiers have used anti-riot tactics in the wars in the middle east since they began over a decade ago. This is nothing new. I'm not sure where you get your information, but if you heard or read that this purchase of riot gear is new or a change in tactics, the source is mistaken. The US military has been training for this all along.

Theyre already preparing for another civil war
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This should have been your first clue. You may or may not be aware that the various wars and skirmishes in the middle east are almost all "civil wars" -- different tribes and factions within the same country fighting against each other.

As they know as well as we do, the only way to take back our own country now that its been infiltrated is to take up arms against the Tyranny of our own govt.
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I am not thrilled with some of the things our government has done of late. Presidents from both political parties have ignored the constitution and run rampant over the rights of the people. Many of us have protested, and will continue to protest, this tyranny. You may remember a movement that started a little over a year ago, referred to as "Occupy Wall Street." It started in New York City, but soon similar movements were popping up all over the country. What I find most interesting is that these pockets of protesters were ridiculed and scoffed by a lot of the people who are now saying, as you are "hey, we need to rebel against the tyranny." Where were you when OWS groups needed support against police brutality? Where were you when protesters asked for help against the regime? You were calling us names and telling us to go home.

So excuse me if I don't consider your comments now particularly serious or worthy. Put your money where your mouth is. If you really feel as you do, those movements are STILL active in most major cities. Contact your local Occupy movement and ask how you can help.

THEN come to me and tell me we need to take up arms. Until then, your words are empty as a cracked vessel.
 
(First of all, it's spelled "Iraq." I know, it's funny to have a "q" without a "u" following, but that's the way it's spelled)

Pardon My Mistake Miss Diva :p

iraque.jpg
 
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perhaps you may wish to take a look at this, its just information, free, no charge
F.E.M.A.
FEMA - The Secret Government

BTW you dont have to take up arms against anything or anyone, the choice to excercie your 2nd amendment rights under the constitution as well as supporting YOURSELF(as opposed to expecting someone else to do it for you) under that which is suppose to be the supreme law of our land as an American is simply your choice.
 
MidniteWelder said:
iraque.jpg
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Interesting map. What language is that? I'm guessing Italian, judging by the spelling of the names of the other countries, or maybe Spanish? "Arabia Saudita" sounds Italian to me .... I also notice they spell Syria without the "y".

You raise a good point, however. "Iraq" is the proper "English" spelling of the country's name; that doesn't mean it's the "correct" or "proper" spelling. How racist of me to assume that English is right and all other languages are wrong. Of course, the proper spelling of that country's name should be in Arabic, an alphabet for which I do not have on my computer. And even if I did, I wouldn't know how to spell it without looking it up. I could spell it in Hebrew if you wanted :)

Anyway, thanks for finding that jpg!
 
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