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I_am_Canadian said:
Lev 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Dead in the Hebrew is
H5315
נֶפֶשׁ
nephesh
neh'-fesh
From H5314; properly a breathing creature, that is, animal or (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental): - any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, X dead (-ly), desire, X [dis-] contented, X fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, X jeopardy of) life (X in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortality, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (X she) will, X would have it.

Print in Hebrew is
H5414
נָתַן
nâthan
naw-than'
A primitive root; to give, used with great latitude of application (put, make, etc.): - add, apply, appoint, ascribe, assign, X avenge, X be ([healed]), bestow, bring (forth, hither), cast, cause, charge, come, commit consider, count, + cry, deliver (up), direct, distribute do, X doubtless, X without fail, fasten, frame, X get, give (forth, over, up), grant, hang (up), X have, X indeed, lay (unto charge, up), (give) leave, lend, let (out), + lie, lift up, make, + O that, occupy, offer, ordain, pay, perform, place, pour, print, X pull, put (forth), recompense, render, requite, restore, send (out), set (forth), shew, shoot forth (up). + sing, + slander, strike, [sub-] mit, suffer, X surely, X take, thrust, trade, turn, utter, + weep, X willingly, + withdraw, + would (to) God, yield.

Marks in hebrew has 2 words they are

H3793
כְּתֹבֶת
kethôbeth
keth-o'-beth
From H3789; a letter or other mark branded on the skin: - X any [mark].

H7085
קַעֲקַע
qa‛ăqa‛
kah-ak-ah'
From the same as H6970; an incision or gash: - + mark.

Based on this one verse, I really do not think God would approve of it.
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OH Jesus Christ here we go I don't care if it's a sin or not I'm asking what you would think about it if you saw it and second I'm not Jewish the Mosaic law don't apply to me. Even if it did my tattoos aren't for the Dead
 
cinder said:
@legion

While the heretic hunters aside has been entertaining, I do want to actually answer your question and then add a little more.

First, if I saw a guy with a hebrew word and cross tattoo, I would probably assume he was a Christian. I know there's plenty of Christians out there that are into decorating with a hebrew word here and there because it's a Bible language (and maybe because it looks kind of cool or it can let their actual witness be a bit hidden since most people can't read hebrew words). I would say that @WiselyWoven made a very well referenced case for the reason tattoos might not be as innocuous as most modern people think and if I were thinking about getting one I'd want to look into some of those sources before making a final decision. I know there are some things that have been used for ungodly purposes that are not in an of themselves ungodly and can be used for godly purposes and there are some things that have their entire origin out of worship of other gods and really can't be repurposed. I don't know which category tattoos fall into.

My bigger concern is that in naming your business and in designing your tattoo and the pages and pages of thread that have followed, I'm starting to see a pattern of you like to be confusing, controversial and a bit of a shock jock type. And you seem drawn to symbolism that is rather anti-Christian. Naming your business after the demons in a Bible story is iffy, but when we look at the logo in the place you'd be (smoking the ribs) there's an evil looking troll monster. Is that what you'd choose to represent yourself? Do you think any church when looking for a caterer for some event would choose that company? Similarly with this tattoo, of all the words you could have chosen to have written in Hebrew you've chosen heretic. Now a random hebrew word plus cross makes me think Christian, if I saw someone with the word heretic scribbled across a cross where I could read it, I wouldn't be sure who that was: someone who was formerly proud of his rebellion against God now trying to show that he's under the blood or someone who used to be a Christian now flaunting that he has abandonded his faith and turned his back on God. If I put a lot of thought into it I'd probably think the latter since the former could have easily had a solid cross tattooed in or at least a strikethrough of the word heretic.

I'm still giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're sincere rather than deliberate troll, but if that's so then what is your purpose? Why ask about a tattoo that no one will see? Why talk about leaving false clues to cause confusion? Why ask for opinions about something you've already decided to do that you know will be controversial? And why not heed the feedback you receive? These just aren't the actions of someone who wants to show love to God and to his fellow people. So what's your purpose in doing this? What's motivating you?
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The most evil thing I can think of is a man in a suit with a nice haircut so it works both ways
 
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cinder said:
@legion

While the heretic hunters aside has been entertaining, I do want to actually answer your question and then add a little more.

First, if I saw a guy with a hebrew word and cross tattoo, I would probably assume he was a Christian. I know there's plenty of Christians out there that are into decorating with a hebrew word here and there because it's a Bible language (and maybe because it looks kind of cool or it can let their actual witness be a bit hidden since most people can't read hebrew words). I would say that @WiselyWoven made a very well referenced case for the reason tattoos might not be as innocuous as most modern people think and if I were thinking about getting one I'd want to look into some of those sources before making a final decision. I know there are some things that have been used for ungodly purposes that are not in an of themselves ungodly and can be used for godly purposes and there are some things that have their entire origin out of worship of other gods and really can't be repurposed. I don't know which category tattoos fall into.

My bigger concern is that in naming your business and in designing your tattoo and the pages and pages of thread that have followed, I'm starting to see a pattern of you like to be confusing, controversial and a bit of a shock jock type. And you seem drawn to symbolism that is rather anti-Christian. Naming your business after the demons in a Bible story is iffy, but when we look at the logo in the place you'd be (smoking the ribs) there's an evil looking troll monster. Is that what you'd choose to represent yourself? Do you think any church when looking for a caterer for some event would choose that company? Similarly with this tattoo, of all the words you could have chosen to have written in Hebrew you've chosen heretic. Now a random hebrew word plus cross makes me think Christian, if I saw someone with the word heretic scribbled across a cross where I could read it, I wouldn't be sure who that was: someone who was formerly proud of his rebellion against God now trying to show that he's under the blood or someone who used to be a Christian now flaunting that he has abandonded his faith and turned his back on God. If I put a lot of thought into it I'd probably think the latter since the former could have easily had a solid cross tattooed in or at least a strikethrough of the word heretic.

I'm still giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're sincere rather than deliberate troll, but if that's so then what is your purpose? Why ask about a tattoo that no one will see? Why talk about leaving false clues to cause confusion? Why ask for opinions about something you've already decided to do that you know will be controversial? And why not heed the feedback you receive? These just aren't the actions of someone who
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cinder said:
wants to show love to God and to his fellow people. So what's your purpose in doing this? What's motivating you?
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That's probably a good question

Well I don't know in what order I could answer that but I guess the first thing that pops in my mind as to why I asked some of the questions that I do or because I think it's intriguing to see people's response and it is often entertaining

If I were to ask is blue your favorite color and you went off and said that depends on my mood and gave all sorts of other bases for when that is and is not your favorite color rather than a yes or no then you missed the point of the question. Oftentimes one question leads to the next question but it's been my experience thus far that one question leads to four or five different people trying to hijack the thread into their explanation and belief which may or may not have been part of the question in the first place

A good example of this would be asking about the rapture. The fact is that it cannot be proven one way or the other. Yeah they're huge threads about this type of subject as if nobody in 2,000 years has ever thought to ask the question when in fact it has never been answered in 2000 years and probably will not be until after it occurs or does not occur and we end up in heaven

Almost nobody jumps out front and will say that what they will say is some dogmatic form of what they believe about it and then defend something that can't be defended because there's no absolute truth to it.

I mean I believe there is a rapture 51% but that's about as far as I'll go and it's a faith-based deal there's not really anything else to discuss about that from my perspective.

At any rate it definitely draws a line in the sand at where the person responding is and their theological View and viewpoints sometimes based on the subject and hand and sometimes merely based on the exposure to the text of the Bible therefore what I'm doing is trying to determine who I'm dealing with and at what level I can deal with them at

to the point of the motifs of evil whether in my nickname or in my side business at best it's just to catch the eye.

I like rock and roll and I like good genuine horror flicks like the old school Black and Whites although there's been some good ones and later years.

I'm a big Ozzy Osbourne fan and most people don't realize that at 18 years old he was saved in a Protestant Christian environment after he became known as the front man for Black Sabbath (whose name was just chosen because they thought it was funny how people like to go watch and be scared it horror movies and not having any connection to the occult whatsoever). I know I'm not going to defend Ozzy Osbourne in a Christian forum because he doesn't need to be defended

Ozzy didn't have much discipleship obviously but if you actually listen to his lyrics see him in interviews and do a good deep dive on the guy you'll see that his concert simply reflect the sadness and laughter he experienced in his life it was never about bringing Darkness into the world and so on and so forth people just don't look far enough into things because all they see is on the surface. I don't want to deal with people who only see things on the surface.

There is a very real and very deep and sinister evil in this world. When you have jumped in and out of that fire weather on purpose or on accident and survived many years of doing so it almost becomes a comedy to watch other people try to deal with it.

But really probably the shortest answer I could give you is I'm a dark type of raconteur.
 
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er ok
I didn't read through ALL that, but whatever.
Hooray now we know!

legion likes to tell stories and entertain us.
He has no use for me..PTL
 
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SonJudgment said:
Anyone over 40 is a Boomer. 57 in fairness you might be like the start of Gen X, but honestly they're even worse than the Boomers, all the evil but none of the style, just a bunch of Karens and heretics. Also frankly what is he your alt account and you got confused and forgot you were logged into this one lol?

Wrong, we have to use the talents and God wants us to do judgment, God is a God of judgment and he loves right judgment for when there is right judgment there is order and peace. To everyone that has more will be given but to everyone that has not even that which he thinks he has shall be taken away from him and given to those that do actually believe in the true God, praise Jesus.
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Obviously you missed the Jesus Revolution during the 'Boomer' reign, out of which came Pastor Greg Laurie, a......'Boomer':D
 
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Oh the 'catch the eye' bit is debatable. Like a mote?
Or it it meant to be funny like Hell Pizza is funny. It's hot! It's a pizza! It's baked in the fiery hot oven and could burn your tongue!
 
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faithlife said:
Obviously you missed the Jesus Revolution during the 'Boomer' reign, out of which came Pastor Greg Laurie, a......'Boomer':D
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Hey that was my thread, I was asking about that movie.
Boomers are just late aged yuppies right?
 
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My new theory - Legion is touting for business.
If you like spare ribs, he's your man. Give him a call. In Dallas.

I forgot the main hustle, was it delivery?
Are they free for Christians...I mean do we have to actually pay money for goods and services?
 
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don't worry, be happy Legion. You are safe inside the pigs falling off the cliff.

Or..you are safe in legions of angel flying pigs.
 
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faithlife said:
I can't speak for all boomers, lol, and btw that movie is about the life of my pastor Greg Laurie, a boomer😃 It's a really good movie btw.
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Oh can you post in my Jesus Revolution thread if you haven't already. I may have some more questions about it.
 
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Lanolin said:
Hey that was my thread, I was asking about that movie.
Boomers are just late aged yuppies right?
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Yes, Baby Boomers—particularly those born between 1955 and 1964 (Generation Jones)—are considered the original "yuppies" (young urban professionals) of the 1980s. While the stereotype implies a shift from 1960s idealism to 1980s materialism, yuppies were a subset, not the entirety, of the 77 million boomers. (a professional answer lol)
 
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