( a powerful testimony of the Apostles that knew Jesus as well as any Peter speaking ) That word , I say , ye know , which was published throughout all Judaea , and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good , and healing all that were oppressed of the devil ; for God was with him . ( notice Peter does not say God is Jesus or Jesus is God ) And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews , and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree : Him God raised up the third day , and shewed him openly; Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God , even to us , who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead . And commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that this is HE that was ordained OF God to be the judge of the quick and dead . To him all the prophets witness , that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins …. Interesting in Revelation ch 5 Jesus takes from God sitting on the throne the scroll and opens it and judgements begin . Yes Jesus is not sitting on the throne because he is not The One God that is the Father alone . May God bless his word !
Acts ch 10 v 37- 43
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Jesus is the Son of God as the NT says so many times , and Jesus had a special relationship with his Father God , that he could even say they where one , in relationship, not one and the same person . Or he would have just said I’m God . And he never did say that . No matter how verses are twisted. I’m not interested in a discussion on this because it’s not in the Scriptures , if read properly.
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Acts 10 verse 43 ~ All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.
Acts 10 verse 43 ~ All the prophets testify about Him that everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins through His name.
Matthew 16 v 13 He asked his disciples, saying , who do men say that I THE SON OF MAN AM ? ( notice Jesus is making a claim on who he is and not claiming to be God .) v 14 Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah , and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets. V 15 He said to them , BUT WHO DO YOU SAY THAT IAM ? ( notice Jesus is not claiming to be God here either.) Simon Peter answered and said , YOU ARE THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God “ ( notice not a hint of being God himself notice that ? )
V17 Jesus answered and said to him Blessed are you , Simon Bar- Jonah , for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you , but my Father in heaven . ( God in heaven that does not have flesh and blood revealed the truth to Peter . Not a mention of Jesus being God himself notice, so Peter and Jesus and God in heaven got it wrong if Jesus is God . ) it’s way too deep for many of you I know but it does not change the truth that Peter got right ! Amen . They are absolutely right and do not lie . Men twist the truth and would have us believe nonsense. The truth will set you free !
I recommend reading John chapter 14 to 16 it is Jesus explanation of his Relationship with his God and Father .
A few highlights, 14 v 6 I am the way , the truth and the life , No one comes to the Father except through me . ( notice he did not say he is the father , but the way to the father . )
14 v 28 I am going to the Father , for my Father is greater than I . ( notice Jesus is not the Father God , but his Son )
14 v 31 and as the Father gave me Commandments, so I do . ( Jesus is not keeping his own commandments but the ones God gave him .
Jesus as our Lord gives us commandments 15 v 10
Jesus is our Lord , and God the Father is LORD God , Of All including Jesus .
Remember King David said the LORD said to my Lord sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies thy foot stool .
( that’s God the LORD and Jesus the Lord the seed of David , Two separate identities. Prophesied by David and a well known scripture. If understood it should set things right ) God bless as you learn the truth that sets you free !
A few highlights, 14 v 6 I am the way , the truth and the life , No one comes to the Father except through me . ( notice he did not say he is the father , but the way to the father . )
14 v 28 I am going to the Father , for my Father is greater than I . ( notice Jesus is not the Father God , but his Son )
14 v 31 and as the Father gave me Commandments, so I do . ( Jesus is not keeping his own commandments but the ones God gave him .
Jesus as our Lord gives us commandments 15 v 10
Jesus is our Lord , and God the Father is LORD God , Of All including Jesus .
Remember King David said the LORD said to my Lord sit thou at my right hand until I make thy enemies thy foot stool .
( that’s God the LORD and Jesus the Lord the seed of David , Two separate identities. Prophesied by David and a well known scripture. If understood it should set things right ) God bless as you learn the truth that sets you free !
Deniers of the Holy Trinity...........false teaching.
Jesus was and is FULLY GOD! God the Son. Second Person of the Holy Trinity.
He states:
( notice Peter does not say God is Jesus or Jesus is God )
What he doesn't state:
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John, Chapter 14:
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John, Chapter 8:
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
I recommend you read it with spiritual understanding through receiving the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.
To deny the Divinity of Jesus is to deny Jesus. To deny Jesus is to deny God. To deny God is to assure oneself of damnation.
The Gospel of John identifies, defines and declares the Biblical Truth of the Holy Trinity!
God the Father: God OF man
God the Son: God AS man
God the Holy Spirit: God dwelling WITHIN man.
You need to seriously pray for spiritual understanding through the Holy Spirit.
1 John 5 v 5 who is he that overcometh the world : but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God ? ( you will not find any verse like this saying Jesus is God or the Trinity in the Bible )
1 John 4 v 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God , God dwelleth in him , and he in God . ( notice it does not say he that confesses a trinity or that Jesus is God . Let’s stick with the truth ! ) Jesus is the Son of God as the Bible and God himself confesses. You need the Spirit of truth to hear and believe. Amen . The trinity doctrine was formed way back in the 3rd century and even put people to death for not believing the lie . Proof it’s of the devil . Jesus never killed his enemies. The devil was a lier and murder from the beginning. By their fruits you shall know them . Trinity people have a lot of bad fruit. Check it out ….
1 John 4 v 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God , God dwelleth in him , and he in God . ( notice it does not say he that confesses a trinity or that Jesus is God . Let’s stick with the truth ! ) Jesus is the Son of God as the Bible and God himself confesses. You need the Spirit of truth to hear and believe. Amen . The trinity doctrine was formed way back in the 3rd century and even put people to death for not believing the lie . Proof it’s of the devil . Jesus never killed his enemies. The devil was a lier and murder from the beginning. By their fruits you shall know them . Trinity people have a lot of bad fruit. Check it out ….
To say in a slightly different way than @p_rehbein put it: that if Jesus wasn't God, He was a man, and if a man then with sin, and if with sin then not the Savior, and if not the Savior, then we have no Savior, and if we have no Savior then no one has ever become saved nor can anyone ever become saved. Apparently, you are unaware that Jesus, by taking on the form of a man willingly and temporarily by His own will, set aside His godly glory, nevertheless, He never ceased being God - Jesus spoke as both a man AND as God during His ministry on this earth. There can only be ONE GOD.
[Phl 2:6-8 KJV]
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
[Heb 1:3, 8 KJV]
3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; ...
8 But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
[Jhn 1:1 KJV] 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[Jhn 5:18 KJV] 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
[Jhn 20:28 KJV] 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
[1Jo 5:20 KJV] 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
[Jhn 8:58 KJV] 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
[Jhn 10:30 KJV] 30 I and [my] Father are one.
[Deu 6:4 KJV] 4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:
Yes I know these twisted verses and you do not understand, you have been deceived like so many . Many will say Lord Lord and he will say depart from me I never knew you workers of iniquity. It’s incredible how little you understand these verses in their context, without contradiction of the body of scriptures in the Bible you totally neglect. To your lost confusion. Do you want me to explain your perversion s ? Just the last verse you quote The LORD God is one LORD you can’t comprehend it it you have more than one without knowing what you are talking about . LORD is God in heaven . That’s the one and only throughout scripture. But you missed it . Jesus is Lord not LORD . Please reconsider your error but I’m not hopeful you can .
Jesus is referred to both as LORD and Lord: LORD is for Jesus as God; Lord is for Jesus as master. You need to do a lot more research before you post this kind of trash.
But you're right, I can't reconsider, nor do I need to, because I'm correct and you're not. You obviously do not understand even the most basic tenets of salvation. I bet it is from the religion you belong to - it has brain-washed you into believing this blasphemy and probably others too.
And I suggest the same thing for you, to please reconsider, but neither am I not hopeful that you can.
I know the trinity doctrine and it’s a compilation of men’s doctrines . Void of the spirit of truth . Actually it’s a spirit of error . That they use to understand all scriptures. That’s why they are for ever learning and never able to come to the truth . 1 John 4 v1 Beloved , believe not every spirit , but try the spirits whether they are of God : because many false prophets are gone out into the world. V2 , 3 these verses we are to test them with , the trinity doctrine alone fails the test . None of them seem to understand it . Testing them out , not just getting them to recite scripture. That’s too easy . The spirit of anti christ is the spirit of the world , that will be well in operation for the anti christ himself . Only true believers will not be deceived , because they know and love the truth . The scriptures are the truth . Notice in 1 John 4 v 1- 3. Not a mention of Jesus being God , that’s the error anti christs make , he is more than in the flesh to them , they just don’t get it . He must be God/man or God . But that fails the test . It’s unimaginable for them to think Jesus is in the flesh alone . Check it out . Jesus said God was with him and never that he was or is God . May God bless you as you find the truth and get set free !
I don’t expect an anti christ to get it any time soon . But don’t believe their lies if you can ! I have studied the Bible for many decades and I’m thankful The Holy Spirit has spared me the big error ! As Peter said Jesus is the Christ , the Son of the living God ! These false prophets know so little about truth don’t fall for them . They are the many Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24 . Take heed lest any man deceive you , Jesus said ! 
I don’t expect an anti christ to get it any time soon . But don’t believe their lies if you can ! I have studied the Bible for many decades and I’m thankful The Holy Spirit has spared me the big error ! As Peter said Jesus is the Christ , the Son of the living God ! These false prophets know so little about truth don’t fall for them . They are the many Jesus warned us about in Matthew 24 . Take heed lest any man deceive you , Jesus said !
[2Pe 1:1 ESV] 1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
[Tit 2:13 ESV] 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,
You are unable to keep the context of scripture. You just cherry pick a verse that suits your doctrine. Twist a little here and there .
A typical reply when someone cannot refute what's posted - all fluff, no substance.
Ephesians 1 v 2 Grace be to you , and peace from GOD OUR FATHER, and from the Lord Jesus Christ . ( 2 separate identities)
V3 Blessed be THE GOD AND FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ, ( notice it’s not LORD Jesus Christ ) don’t let the spirit of Antichrist get a hold on you !
V3 Blessed be THE GOD AND FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ, ( notice it’s not LORD Jesus Christ ) don’t let the spirit of Antichrist get a hold on you !