affection and suffering I am crucified

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a question, have anyone greatly suffered at any time in one's life, did your friends or parents affected you for the name of Christ, where you bruised for his namesake, did you give up something at the altar to receive the Holy Spirit, how do we know when we are really saved,
Saved from what?
Is not salvation is to sanctified and sealed by the Holy Spirit, not by water but by the burning of our souls for the remission of sins?
affected for our sins, at the altar to receive the Holy Spirit?
Not by deeds and works, but that gift of life is eternal, do you even know what is eternal?

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless, I live: yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify: and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we are dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Galatians 2:20; Matthew 23:34; Romans 6:6-8; Galatians 5:11;
Matthew 27:38; Colossians 2:11
 
As it pertains to suffering and persecution,...

2 Timothy 3:12
And all indeed who desire to live piously in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

John 15:20
Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also.

As it pertains to salvation,...

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not of works, lest anyone should boast.

As it pertains to suffering, persecution, and salvation,...

1 Peter 1:3-9
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been [c]grieved by various trials, 7that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8whom having not [d]seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
 
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TheWordIsOne said:
a question, have anyone greatly suffered at any time in one's life, did your friends or parents affected you for the name of Christ, where you bruised for his namesake, did you give up something at the altar to receive the Holy Spirit, how do we know when we are really saved
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well to the first question I assume, would any of these things you mentioned be of a requirement to be saved?
 
Sorry but this had me scratching but you don’t have to reply

parents affected you for the name of Christ?
 
Greeting part #1
What is salvation according to the true gospel, there is a mystery according to Revelation that would be?

We read First Corinthians 2:7-8 (NKJV) But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

A mystery, the hidden wisdom, as the Lord said, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory
Salvation is a pearl of hidden wisdom, a mystery to reveal, or to unveil at the proper to the His Saints.

In Romans 16: 25-27 Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began. But now is made manifest and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith;

The revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, meaning just as the crucified was keep was hidden, salvation also.
In First Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
Stewards of the mysteries, the Lord’ He uses the word Stewards

"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
First Corinthians 2:9

In Ephesians 3: 1-9 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward; How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery;

(as I wrote afore in few words).
(Whereby when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ.)
Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
That the Gentiles should be fellow-heirs and of the same body and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel.
Whereof I was made a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

Unto me who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unreachable riches of Christ.

And to make all men see what the fellowship of the mystery is, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.

Note: the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hidden in God

Hid in God in God as crucifixion which none of the rulers of this age knew not
(First Corinthians 2:7-8)

Just as salvation was kept on till now

In Acts 17:11 (NLT2) And the people of Berea were more open-minded than those in Thessalonica, and they listened eagerly to Paul’s message. They searched the Scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

Berea was more open-minded searched the Scriptures day after day, People new believes, searching for Christ the LORD, search the heart, and test the mind, by the individual who searching for Chris, and much time you search

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you.

The Spirit of God is everywhere searching for Chris For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither anything hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
(Luke 8:17)

Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it is of God, or whether I speak of myself.
(John 7:16-17)

Jesus said this doctrine is not mine, just as this information is not mine, but the Spirit of God
in a shall way when I study, I may take maybe six hours of searching the scripture I look to see if Christ is around as like He says,

John 5: 39 states “You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me! (Christ) (NLT2)

I continue just like anyone that is searching for some form of truth in the scripture, it says this truth is called the Gospels.
So I need to camper between what people say, and what the scripture says about true salvation.

Timothy said, You have been taught the Holy Scriptures from childhood, and they have given you the wisdom to receive the salvation that comes by trusting in Christ Jesus.
Second Timothy 3:15 (NLT2)

So yes as a child I look at the Scriptures as the eyes of a child and open my eyes to give you what I saw, it’s not a copy per se, but what I saw looking for salvation, comparing scripture with scriptures, or verses with verses, or at it is Spiritual things with Spiritual things meaning shall phrase, like
(Romans 10:10) For with the heart, man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.

Breaking down the letter of the word, by law, the mouth confession is made for salvation, or salvation is calling out, but with my heart, not my mind, we read, For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
(Romans 10:10)

I need to believe, salvation is based on my eternal heart, a heart that is been afflicted

Acts 13:22-23 (NKJV) And when He had removed him, He raised up for them David as king, to whom also He gave testimony and said, 'I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will.'
From this man's seed, according to the promise, God raised up for Israel a Savior--Jesus—
A man after My own heart meaning rising up Christ, the heart is the key to salvation

We read Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?

So we see that heart is the key, as a child, I go to Christ for salvation, because my heart was deceitful

Jeremiah said I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings.




 
Part #2
I test the mind because He can read your thoughts
(Jeremiah 17: 10)

(Salvation is)
I leave you with this Proverbs 24:12 If you say, "Surely we did not know this," Does not He who weighs the hearts consider it? He who keeps your soul, does He not know it? And will He not render to each man according to his deeds?
Christ said you know who I am, you knew of me I have your souls, and I knew you.
Salvation knowing, is showing my heart, is giving heart as a living sacrifice.

Romans 12:1 I beseech (implore) you, therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.

Afflicted heart

A broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart
(Psalm 51:17)

I may read all of this, this way?
Believe Confess your sins with all of your heart and let it be known your words so salvation can be attained, LOVE Is Your key

To be saved
(Romans 10:9)
The heart shows your speech or words

This not just copying and pacing, but searching, studying, and hoping, knowledge is power

Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

First Corinthians 2:9-16 But as it is written: "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

For what man knows the things of a man except for the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so, no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.

These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.

For "who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?" But we have the mind of Christ.

(Confess with your mouth to be saved)
(Romans 10:9)

A broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart-- These, O God, You will not despise.
(Psalm 51:17)

With the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
(Romans 10:10)

Beginning to sink he cried out, saying, "Lord, save me!"
(Matthew 14:28-31)

Jesus stretched out His hand and caught him
(Matthew 14:28-31)

(Being saved)
(2 Corinthians 2:15)

Jesus cried out with a loud voice
(Matthew 27:46)

Christ cries out to His Father Abba Father
 
Affected n effected n afflicted n inflicted are interesting words and placements
 
TheWordIsOne said:
Yes and No, Satan affected me for the name of Christ through my parents very long ago Matthew 1o: 22
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Ahh I see I think I get you now well some times it happens what we may have been told at some point in life comes to pass that it might not have been as told. and at times like that it’s probably best to say it’s ok I had to go through the worst to reach the best or it might not have been as meaningful of a sound revaluation if that makes any sense
 
TheWordIsOne said:
Yes and No, Satan affected me for the name of Christ through my parents very long ago Matthew 1o: 22
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Without an explanation of what happened and this may or may not be the place to mention depending on what happened you say satan affected you through your parents. Matt 10:22 is hatred by others so you would have to explain that verse and your parents connection with that and you but it may not be appropriate.
 
TheWordIsOne said:
no comment :censored:
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I'll take that as a yes then.
TheWordIsOne said:
my friends call me The Word or Boanerges, just one that strong in the word, hoping to show Great Mysteries of the future and what is to come, by going back to the future to reveal what was lost, what made us today the bad and good things, but above all to find the truth and love Thank You ✌
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So when your friends call you "The Word" do you tell them that you are not Jesus/God? Or do you just go with the flow?

Next time they call you "The Word",... tell them that you are just a man, and not God!
 
GracethroughfaithinChrist said:
I'll take that as a yes then.

So when your friends call you "The Word" do you tell them that you are not Jesus/God? Or do you just go with the flow?

Next time they call you "The Word",... tell them that you are just a man, and not God!
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That is an assumption that they meant he is Jesus or God and Boanerges doesn’t mean that Jesus called James and John that.
 
GracethroughfaithinChrist said:
I'll take that as a yes then.

So when your friends call you "The Word" do you tell them that you are not Jesus/God? Or do you just go with the flow?

Next time they call you "The Word",... tell them that you are just a man, and not God!
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am I the Word?
John 1:1-2 (NKJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was at the beginning with God.

Then who am I
2 Corinthians 5:11 (KJV) Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God, and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

No, I’m not god, but who am I? If, not a God I am the clay, turn into a vessel
Isaiah 64:8 (NKJV) But now, O LORD, You are our Father; We are the clay, and You are the potter; And all we are the work of Your hand.
2 Timothy 2:19-21 (NKJV) Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands, having this seal: "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor.
Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work.
2 Corinthians 4:7-12 (NKJV) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us.
We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed-- always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.
For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus' sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh.
So then death is working in us, but life in you.

What do I fear
1 Corinthians 6:19 (NKJV) do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
 
JamOn said:
That is an assumption that they meant he is Jesus or God and Boanerges doesn’t mean that Jesus called James and John that.
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the name Boanerges, that is, "Sons of Thunder" or Sons of God, the Word Carrier

Mark 3:14-17 (NKJV) Then He appointed twelve, that they might be with Him and that He might send them out to preach,
and to have the power to heal sicknesses and to cast out demons:
Simon, to whom He gave the name Peter;
James the son of Zebedee and John the brother of James, to whom He gave the name Boanerges, that is, "Sons of Thunder";
 
Locoponydirtman said:
I have lost an old friend and a family member
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My affliction
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Grief is a natural response to a significant loss. It’s a process in life, of saying goodbye to someone or something we lost, a loved one, a good friend on longer in our life. As difficult as grieve our losses, grief is the process that allows us to recover and heal from a loss.
Grief is natural, unpredictable, and follows no set timetable. But it is within this Grief God grants us great comfort and hope
When we experience great loss, it drops all things that interest us, secondary losses.
Life has changed looking for reasons, or who to blame for such tragic.
Our daily routines are off-balance, future plans are in hold, income, jobs, titles or the roles we are accustomed too.

People become strangers to me who am I what am I now without my best friend or the loss of my loved one, how am I going to make it on my own? How am I to face now in such a difficult time as today?
What am I supposed to do with myself now?

David’s affliction
Psalm 119:71-72 (KJV) It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes.
The law of thy mouth is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver.

Job’s affliction
Job 1:5 (NKJV) So it was when the days of feasting had run their course, that Job would send and sanctify them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. Job said, "It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts." Thus Job did regularly.

Joseph’s affliction
Acts 7:9-10 (NKJV) "And the patriarchs, becoming envious, sold Joseph into Egypt. But God was with him and delivered him out of all his troubles, and gave him favor and wisdom in the presence of Pharaoh, king of Egypt; and he made him governor over Egypt and all his house.

Esther’s affliction
Esther 7:4 (NKJV) For we have been sold, my people and I, to be destroyed, to be killed, and to be annihilated. Had we been sold as male and female slaves, I would have held my tongue, although the enemy could never compensate for the king's loss."

Christ’s affliction
John 11:32-35 (NKJV) Then, when Mary came where Jesus was, and saw Him, she fell down at His feet, saying to Him, "Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died."
Therefore, when Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who came with her weeping, He groaned in the spirit and was troubled.
And He said, "Where have you laid him?" They said to Him, "Lord, come and see."
Jesus wept.
Luke 19:41-44 (NKJV) Now as He drew near, He saw the city and wept over it, saying, "If you had known, even you, especially in this your day, the things that make for your peace! But now they are hidden from your eyes.
For days will come upon you when your enemies will build an embankment around you, surround you and close you in on every side, and level you, and your children within you, to the ground; and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not know the time of your visitation."
Mark 14:34 (NKJV) Then He said to them, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch."
Luke 22:44 (NKJV) And being in agony, He prayed more earnestly. Then His sweat became like great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Matthew 27:46 (NKJV) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"
Mark 14:34-36 (NKJV) Then He said to them, "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even to death. Stay here and watch."
He went a little farther, and fell on the ground, and prayed that if it were possible, the hour might pass from Him.
And He said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for You. Take this cup away from Me; nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will."
 
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