All 7 trumpets have been blown, big discovery! Thoughts?
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Demons are not fallen angels. Not even close. Don't believe me? Read your Holy Bible and find out for yourself. Here is a link that has brought together the scripture pertaining all of the differences and the end result is without question; fallen angels (the devil and his angels) ARE NOT DEMONS. 3 Subtle Distinctions Between Demons and Fallen Angels — Charisma News
My correction remains. Your interpretation contradicts scripture.
My correction remains. Your interpretation contradicts scripture.
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I never said it was the end. When the 7th angel blew over 2000 years ago the mystery of god WAS FINISHED, just as scripture states. See for yourself:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
It is not the antichrist. It is representing the spirit of the antichrist as Jesus says "which you already know is in the world."
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
It is not the antichrist. It is representing the spirit of the antichrist as Jesus says "which you already know is in the world."
Good day GraftedBranch,
first of all, the word "Mystery" is not unique representing one specific event, which is what you are trying to do above. As an example, Regarding the gathering of the church Paul said, "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" And second, if you believe that the 7th trumpet has already been sounded, from the writing of Revelation, when did the following take place:
1st Trumpet: A third of the earth and trees burned up
2nd Trumpet: A third of the creatures in the oceans killed and a third of the ships destroyed
3rd Trumpet: A third of the rivers and fresh water contaminated and killing many who drank it
4th Trumpet: The sun, moon and stars are darkened by a third, the earth missing one third of its light
5th Trumpet: Demonic beings let out of the Abyss to torment the inhabitants for five months
6th Trumpet: Four angels with an army of 200 million who kill a third of the earths population
All of the above, plus the seven seal judgments would have had to have taken place prior to the sounding of the 7th trumpet. Not to mention the fact that, Jesus said that all of these things will take place in the last generation.
That it is the "spirit of the antichrist" is implied by you. Each of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment represent a literal event of wrath, the 1st seal being the emergence of the antichrist, not the spirit of the spirit of the antichrist, but the man of lawlessness who will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God.
The 1st seal, the emergence of the antichrist, will be followed by the 2nd seal, the rider on the red horse, who will take peace from the entire earth, so that men kill each other. The previous wars will pale greatly in comparison.
My continuing point being that, none of the seals, trumpets or bowl judgments have yet taken place. When they do, no one who is on the earth during that time will have to ask the question "has the wrath of God come yet?" For it will be all too apparent.
first of all, the word "Mystery" is not unique representing one specific event, which is what you are trying to do above. As an example, Regarding the gathering of the church Paul said, "Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet" And second, if you believe that the 7th trumpet has already been sounded, from the writing of Revelation, when did the following take place:
1st Trumpet: A third of the earth and trees burned up
2nd Trumpet: A third of the creatures in the oceans killed and a third of the ships destroyed
3rd Trumpet: A third of the rivers and fresh water contaminated and killing many who drank it
4th Trumpet: The sun, moon and stars are darkened by a third, the earth missing one third of its light
5th Trumpet: Demonic beings let out of the Abyss to torment the inhabitants for five months
6th Trumpet: Four angels with an army of 200 million who kill a third of the earths population
All of the above, plus the seven seal judgments would have had to have taken place prior to the sounding of the 7th trumpet. Not to mention the fact that, Jesus said that all of these things will take place in the last generation.
That it is the "spirit of the antichrist" is implied by you. Each of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgment represent a literal event of wrath, the 1st seal being the emergence of the antichrist, not the spirit of the spirit of the antichrist, but the man of lawlessness who will stand in the temple proclaiming himself to be God.
The 1st seal, the emergence of the antichrist, will be followed by the 2nd seal, the rider on the red horse, who will take peace from the entire earth, so that men kill each other. The previous wars will pale greatly in comparison.
My continuing point being that, none of the seals, trumpets or bowl judgments have yet taken place. When they do, no one who is on the earth during that time will have to ask the question "has the wrath of God come yet?" For it will be all too apparent.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Is not the meat cut off before our eyes, yea, joy and gladness from the house of our God?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]O Lord, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.
That is not prophecy, it is witness from Joel of what has happened.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]The seed is rotten under their clods, the garners are laid desolate, the barns are broken down; for the corn is withered.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]How do the beasts groan! the herds of cattle are perplexed, because they have no pasture; yea, the flocks of sheep are made desolate.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]O Lord, to thee will I cry: for the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness, and the flame hath burned all the trees of the field.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The beasts of the field cry also unto thee: for the rivers of waters are dried up, and the fire hath devoured the pastures of the wilderness.
That is not prophecy, it is witness from Joel of what has happened.
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;[SUP]2 [/SUP]A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Happened in the days of Joel.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
Happened in the days of Joel.
I appreciate our communications about this and look forward to continuing discussion with you Ahwatukee.
There are 2 things I would like to clear up before we continue, I'm patient & willing to if you are!
#1:
Brother, the mystery of God spoken about in Revelation 10:7 is ABSOLUTELY representing something specific.
I have not proclaimed this to be an "event that happened once and is now over".. Look, Revelations 10:27 says:
"In the days of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery," (hidden truth), "of God should be finished,"
specifically: "as He declared to His servants the prophets."
See? You need to ask yourself about this verse and greatly consider it. What mystery did God declare to His servants the prophets mainly? Hmm? You know the answer; it's Jesus Christ and the outpouring of His Holy Spirit "upon all flesh." That's how we can see clearly that Revelation 10:7 pertains specifically to the mystery of God Paul is referring to in Colossians 1:26-27 & four verses later in ch 2:2-3. See here that I am explaining a very deep truth that only can be understood by those who have crucified the flesh and walking in the Spirit will understand:
"Even the mystery which has been
hidden from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to His saints:
To whom God would make known
what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is
Christ in you, the hope of glory" -Colossians 1:26-27
&
"2That their hearts might be comforted,
being knit together in love, and to all
riches of the full assurance of
understanding, to the acknowledgement of
the mystery of God, and of the Father,
and of Christ;
3In whom are hidden all the treasures
of wisdom and knowledge." --Colossians 2:2-3
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#2:
In the post I made (#122) I declared that my correction remains, and that your interpretation contradicts scripture. It would be great if you could review that post and respond to that. Fallen angels are not Demons. They are entirely different entities. You need to justify this for your interpretation to still be considered a valid one.
There are 2 things I would like to clear up before we continue, I'm patient & willing to if you are!
#1:
Brother, the mystery of God spoken about in Revelation 10:7 is ABSOLUTELY representing something specific.
I have not proclaimed this to be an "event that happened once and is now over".. Look, Revelations 10:27 says:
"In the days of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery," (hidden truth), "of God should be finished,"
specifically: "as He declared to His servants the prophets."
See? You need to ask yourself about this verse and greatly consider it. What mystery did God declare to His servants the prophets mainly? Hmm? You know the answer; it's Jesus Christ and the outpouring of His Holy Spirit "upon all flesh." That's how we can see clearly that Revelation 10:7 pertains specifically to the mystery of God Paul is referring to in Colossians 1:26-27 & four verses later in ch 2:2-3. See here that I am explaining a very deep truth that only can be understood by those who have crucified the flesh and walking in the Spirit will understand:
"Even the mystery which has been
hidden from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to His saints:
To whom God would make known
what is the riches of the glory of this
mystery among the Gentiles; which is
Christ in you, the hope of glory" -Colossians 1:26-27
&
"2That their hearts might be comforted,
being knit together in love, and to all
riches of the full assurance of
understanding, to the acknowledgement of
the mystery of God, and of the Father,
and of Christ;
3In whom are hidden all the treasures
of wisdom and knowledge." --Colossians 2:2-3
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#2:
In the post I made (#122) I declared that my correction remains, and that your interpretation contradicts scripture. It would be great if you could review that post and respond to that. Fallen angels are not Demons. They are entirely different entities. You need to justify this for your interpretation to still be considered a valid one.