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Oh I have plenty of thoughts but why bother typing them out when you just trample them all down. This is not fellowship. This is you with your little followers. So why bother? And to use a picture of the armour to mock those who disagree with amill.ism is a bit dirty. Its not funny even though you may think it is. You tear down, zone, you dont lift up.
Willfully ignorant? You dont know me, so stop with your assumptions.
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Abiding
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Not reading any super anything 'fo heaven's sake'....oh plase nothing. Your theory doesnt hold. Never will.<-----to a response for you to be part of the thread
You hit the nail on the head. Thank you.<----to reds rantings
I havnt seen you debate...Ive seen you back out. And become partisan to ugly comments,
while claiming theres something unusual for anyone to agree with the truth of the thread.
You hit the nail on the head. Thank you.<----to reds rantings
I havnt seen you debate...Ive seen you back out. And become partisan to ugly comments,
while claiming theres something unusual for anyone to agree with the truth of the thread.
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Abiding
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How can you be willfully ignorant when you have expertise both sides of an issue.
Willfull choice would be a better way to say it BL. Unless your choosing to insult.
Willfull choice would be a better way to say it BL. Unless your choosing to insult.
Abiding...you seem like a nice guy. But those that are being insulted are the opposing party. Surely they will come to their defence. My only desire to participate in this thread was to point out the way the sequence of events are layed out in Rev. 19 to 21. by stating that satan is bound after the return of CHRIST. I gave my input after being asked to do so....then it was trampled on and twisted in return. Natuarlly I will fight back....but as zone suggests..perhaps I can open up a thread of my own...but I know ya,ll would probably come in there to tear down every other opposing view. So whats the point?
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Laodicea
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I agree Satan is bound after the return of Christ Revelation 19 has the return of Christ then 20 has him bound also there was no chapter divisions when the Bible was written. While he is not bound now he is limited as to what he can do as mentioned in Job but when he is bound he will not be able to deceive at all during that time, although he is limited now he can still deceive
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1still_waters
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Amil might not seem like such a foreign and odd concept if people were baptized in to the Bible and not in to Hal Lindsey books.
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Abiding
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Maybe, I wouldnt know...im sure im not unbiased its just hard not to be. I am aware of most sides
of the major doctrines. And have changed my views before. And it shakes ya up a little in the process.
How can i condemn someone who holds a view i once had. Not to say i should condemn anyone. Im sure
I insult people thinking im just being funny..its fun even tho i regret it later.
I understand the problem with Revelation 20 and how far out it seems with a dispensational background.
And Satan being bound..I know thats difficult. Especially without understanding Revelation isnt Chronological
I was ticked when i first found out. Its alot of stuff to understand..and the bible isnt that easy to understand
but when it starts to fit and more light from scripture shines from the pages its noticed.
If i were to advise someone, I would tell them to read the gospels and the epistles first(not that you havnt)
and then interpret the old testament with the new and not the other way around as some do. Ill ask this
if you think its funny that Amill folk interpret Rev 20...1000 yrs as a term rather than literal, and as the church
age. Dont you think its even more weird that the same verse is interpreted by premills as something as big
as a 1000 yr kingdom on earth with all thats told about it......without Jesus or the epistles saying one thing
about it? Even more Jesus many times said that after this age was Judgement..then the eternal state, so did Peter...judgement then a new heaven and new earth.
Plus the Old testament uses the term 1000 as a term not a literal 1000...so that has to be considered. It cant be ignored or thought of as an excuse or twisting scripture. Most of Revelation borrows terms from the Old
Testament..just like the whole New Testament...you knew that.
Go start a thread...ill go bug you in it ...ill be gentle tho. But look into the amil/covenant theology ...I know
by experience its gona rattle you...but we are to test all things and hold on to that which is true. At least
that was why I did. Because i just grew up with dispensationalism, never doubted it once...because i didnt know there was an alternative. Then one day i heard there was and i explored it.
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Abiding
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Never cared for HL or left behind series or similar rapture books. I know what scripture says and I know what I believe and it does not include the amillennial view. But to each their own eh
Right! dispensationalism was just about to be fully buried till good ole Hal
You are living in vain imaginations because 'amillennialism' is all over the place and it allows for so much speculation and there is no line upon line or here a little and there a little, or comparing spiritual with spiritual pr any soundness whatsoever. You have to say that this doesn't really mean what it says because it wouldn't fit here and you would have to understand this in this way (figuratively or symbolically) for it to be consistent with what it says over here and over there because it means this in this context and that in that context.
Then we have the kingdom reigning on the earth because Israel is the church and there is no plan B like Hal and others think because they are all crazy with heresy that believe in dispensational truth that came from some little girl having a vision that convinced the likes of Darby and Scofield and others. It is all historically documented also, you just have to accept that and work it all into this amazing doctrine of 'amillennialism' that so many are being converted to because the church is in the millennial reign, Satan has already been bound for that 1,000 yrs. that started over 2,000 years ago (we can explain that later), and the church will be going through the great tribulation because the term saints is mentioned and those that believe in the rapture before the Great Trib are afraid of being persecuted and when they find out they are going through it their faith will fall because they were not prepared and don't want their heads cut off, those spineless dispensationalist. All that and so much more that it would make your head spin.
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Red im tired of listenning to you pretend to be talking to me when your talking to the room. Yes all
eschatology had a beginning. And a history. And people who value themselves will study and try to stand
on what they believe is true. There may even be more to dispensationalism historically than you know. And there may be more to Amil than you know also. Personally I really dont think you are that much of an expert on either one. And then again i have never even discussed it with you....yet you have so much you think you
need to tell me. Most of which has been vile in my opinion.
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This is what makes my head spin Red. This wouldn't be you, would it ?
Man catches the holy ghost - YouTube
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Abiding
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'We played wedding songs, and you didn't dance, so we played funeral songs, and you didn't mourn.'
This is what makes my head spin Red. This wouldn't be you, would it ?
Man catches the holy ghost - YouTube
Something tells me he's not going to watch that.
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AnandaHya
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This is what makes my head spin Red. This wouldn't be you, would it ?
Man catches the holy ghost - YouTube
what makes my head spin is how people can believe that God has two separate covenants still in place instead of His people being made up of both jew and gentile with Jesus as the Root of David.....
the video looked like the guy had ants in his pants, trying to figure out how that is edifying, comforting or exhorting anyone to the glory of God. mmmm maybe its my lil ole brain but I don't see it, any help?
The little birdie was right, because the early bird gets the worm and does not use it for bait like some dirty birds do.
the first part of your post is the root of the problem.
there is a division among the people of God.
some do not believe that Jesus Christ Finished the Work He came to do.
they make lip service to the Gospel, but what gospel is it that is only half Finished?
or worse, not done yet at all.
these people have the truth available to them but they are rejecting it.
the SIMPLEST TRUTH of the Christian Faith: ONE FAITH ONE PEOPLE ONE LORD ONE SPIRIT ONE BODY is undone by dispensationalists.
to their shame. and they get very angry when pressed on the matter.
that belief system is a disgrace.
ya Abiding.
you seem like a nice guy.....BUT.
what's a nice guy like you doing in a thread like this.....
*yawn*
mikey you can pretend we don't know each other if you want to. maybe it'll be well with you in the dispie camp. why they have chosen to build a camp that's nowhere near the Foundation i have no idea.
but politiking they will do....who wants to admit they held wrong beliefs?
such a waste of precious time.
and a lot of tears when the truth comes out.
dunno how many ex-dispies have to testify to it before folks will reconsider.
anyhow.
How is it undone, zone? Christianity is made up of both Jews and gentiles. Nobody said different.
Have I gotten "very angry"?
You make blanket statements that simply aren't true just to elevate what you believe and denigrate what you disagree with.