And it was so ….

[Pilgrimshope]

Gods word and its effective power over and upon all creation to command from the beginning

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3, 9, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Word of God made flesh dwelling among us

“And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still.

And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭4:39‬ ‭

“Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked:
and on the same day was the sabbath.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭

“And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, ( no one touched lepers ) saying, I will; be thou clean.

And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭8:2-3‬ ‭

“And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭5:41-42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not. And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still.

And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise. And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother. And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:13-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-7, 9-10‬

“And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:43-44‬ ‭

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

….And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭11:12-14, 20-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬


This also is his word with the same power as he’s always had when he speaks to fulfill his words if we act upon them

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if you’re a human you can be saved by Jesus if you hear the gospel and believe calling upon him to save you

“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:12-14, 17‬ ‭

if we don’t hear and know what God said in the gospel that promises salvation , how can we possibly believe and be saved ? Everything we wonder about is in the gospel salvation is in his word he’s able to do what he says if we believe that we should then do what he says will lead to our salvation because it’s certain

His word is always the same powerful and effective word to believers just as he speaks and raises the dead , cleanses lepers , heals the blind and lame and sick by speaking to them calling them to act in faith

hes calling sinners to repentance and life by his teachings and judgements in the gospel , calling us to act by faith hearing his word and following where it leads because we believe in him.

instead of concluding based upon other things listen first to what Jesus has to say about being saved and then you’ll know what God has said and what is certain and sure about being saved and inheriting eternal life with him in his everlasting kingdom

God Bless consider the power and consistant truth expressed in what Jesus said and then what happens after he says it it really is the same as “ God said let there be …and there was “ that power of creation and fulfillment

 

[Brasspen]

Believing in God and Jesus is more than, saying, I believe that. It's also about believing in Jesus because, you accept right standing rather than evil. It's also about desiring life and not death. As it was written in New Testiment, they loved death, and not life. This is one of the reason they don't believe, and christians do.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Believing in God and Jesus is more than, saying, I believe that. It's also about believing in Jesus because, you accept right standing rather than evil. It's also about desiring life and not death. As it was written in New Testiment, they loved death, and not life. This is one of the reason they don't believe, and christians do.

A person who believes the gospel meaning what Jesus taught about being saved and having eternal life wouldn’t be just saying they believe this or that ….believers of his word will act because that’s what he speaks for instance if a person believes this to be true …..they will act upon the knowledge

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But if I never hear that and believe it’s true I won’t act upon it. We have to hear what he said first that’s where the life is offered and belief comes from

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

his word calls us to action but many refuse to believe what he said will save us. Maybe I’ll believe this verse

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

But reject this verse which is telling me the information I need to believe and act upon

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭

Jesus was always calling people to listen to and keep his teachings and sayings his words . If we start hearing what he said then we’ll know what to do according to his word regarding salvation. We need to hear what Jesus said bout God and ourselves regarding things like forgivness and mercy and believe it

that way nonone will be just saying anything we’ll be acting in Gods word and get the results he’s promised if we do. Because the truth is things will be as he said they are and not as others say in opposition

 

[Brasspen]

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭

It's my belief also, that when someone is not forgiving, they are trying to hurt them, even kill them by not forgiving them. And we know God really hates that one, as it's written many many places.

 

[studier]

believers of his word will act

And believers in Him will act on what He says.

It's astounding how some traditions make this action optional. They simply do not understand what genuine Faith is.

 

[DavidLamb]

And believers in Him will act on what He says.

It's astounding how some traditions make this action optional. They simply do not understand what genuine Faith is.

Yes. Paul wrote to the Christians at Ephesus:

“For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; [it is] the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:8-10 NKJV)

 

[GWH]

Gods word and its effective power over and upon all creation to command from the beginning

“And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:3, 9, 11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Word of God made flesh dwelling among us

“And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still.

And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭4:39‬ ‭

“Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked:
and on the same day was the sabbath.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭

“And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, ( no one touched lepers ) saying, I will; be thou clean.

And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭8:2-3‬ ‭

“And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭5:41-42‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not. And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare him stood still.

And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise. And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother. And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭7:13-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-7, 9-10‬

“And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.”
‭‭John‬ ‭11:43-44‬ ‭

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

….And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭11:12-14, 20-21‬ ‭KJV‬‬


This also is his word with the same power as he’s always had when he speaks to fulfill his words if we act upon them

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if you’re a human you can be saved by Jesus if you hear the gospel and believe calling upon him to save you

“For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:12-14, 17‬ ‭

if we don’t hear and know what God said in the gospel that promises salvation , how can we possibly believe and be saved ? Everything we wonder about is in the gospel salvation is in his word he’s able to do what he says if we believe that we should then do what he says will lead to our salvation because it’s certain

His word is always the same powerful and effective word to believers just as he speaks and raises the dead , cleanses lepers , heals the blind and lame and sick by speaking to them calling them to act in faith

hes calling sinners to repentance and life by his teachings and judgements in the gospel , calling us to act by faith hearing his word and following where it leads because we believe in him.

instead of concluding based upon other things listen first to what Jesus has to say about being saved and then you’ll know what God has said and what is certain and sure about being saved and inheriting eternal life with him in his everlasting kingdom

God Bless consider the power and consistant truth expressed in what Jesus said and then what happens after he says it it really is the same as “ God said let there be …and there was “ that power of creation and fulfillment

Of course, this begs the obvious question to ask at this point: “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.) If God loves the world (JN 3:16) and wants everyone to be saved (1TM 2:3-4), then He must provide an opportunity. God’s just judgment is illustrated by Jesus in the Parable of the Talents (MT 25:14-29), which indicates that God will judge souls on the basis of the truth (Word = Christ per JN 1:1f.) they have received.

Three ways God/Christ/GW is encountered include:

1. general revelation, which includes: a. meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work. Paul says men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and divine nature (love) are manifested by creation (RM 1:20), and because a proto-gospel has been proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly or in pre-NT foreshadowings (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8), and b. the inner conscience, a natural or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture; and

2. special revelation (1PT 1:8-12), which refers to the biblical and especially NT teaching regarding God’s history of salvation. Again, the Parable of the Talents indicates that souls are saved via faith in God/ Christ as revealed (cf. 1CR 10:1-5).

Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (JN 14:6, ACTS 24:14, PHP 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Of course, this begs the obvious question to ask at this point: “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.) If God loves the world (JN 3:16) and wants everyone to be saved (1TM 2:3-4), then He must provide an opportunity. God’s just judgment is illustrated by Jesus in the Parable of the Talents (MT 25:14-29), which indicates that God will judge souls on the basis of the truth (Word = Christ per JN 1:1f.) they have received.

Three ways God/Christ/GW is encountered include:

1. general revelation, which includes: a. meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work. Paul says men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and divine nature (love) are manifested by creation (RM 1:20), and because a proto-gospel has been proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly or in pre-NT foreshadowings (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8), and b. the inner conscience, a natural or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture; and

2. special revelation (1PT 1:8-12), which refers to the biblical and especially NT teaching regarding God’s history of salvation. Again, the Parable of the Talents indicates that souls are saved via faith in God/ Christ as revealed (cf. 1CR 10:1-5).

Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (JN 14:6, ACTS 24:14, PHP 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.

@ this point: “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.”

like these folks who died in the days of Noah ?

“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3:18-20‬ ‭

The truth is Jesus has always been preached from the beginning

“and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:20-21, 24‬ ‭

But as you see people who died in Noah’s day and may not have heard also heard Jesus preach after he died ….

“being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing,


when a persons body dies that’s not the end

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Of course, this begs the obvious question to ask at this point: “What is GRFS for those who have never heard of Jesus?” (which includes everyone living B.C. and millions of people who have lived A.D.) If God loves the world (JN 3:16) and wants everyone to be saved (1TM 2:3-4), then He must provide an opportunity. God’s just judgment is illustrated by Jesus in the Parable of the Talents (MT 25:14-29), which indicates that God will judge souls on the basis of the truth (Word = Christ per JN 1:1f.) they have received.

Three ways God/Christ/GW is encountered include:

1. general revelation, which includes: a. meditating on the natural world or God’s supernatural work. Paul says men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and divine nature (love) are manifested by creation (RM 1:20), and because a proto-gospel has been proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly or in pre-NT foreshadowings (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8), and b. the inner conscience, a natural or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture; and

2. special revelation (1PT 1:8-12), which refers to the biblical and especially NT teaching regarding God’s history of salvation. Again, the Parable of the Talents indicates that souls are saved via faith in God/ Christ as revealed (cf. 1CR 10:1-5).

Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (JN 14:6, ACTS 24:14, PHP 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.

Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (JN 14:6, ACTS 24:14, PHP 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.”


I really like this part of what you said . There’s one way among many roads is how I would put it. The truth in a world of lies designed to lead us away from the truth that God sent Jesus into the world to speak to mankind that he said will save them.

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭

A pathway set before believers by his word of truth

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus word is where the life offered by God is

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63, 67-69‬ ‭

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But will we believe this ? is the question or reject it for other doctrine designed to pull a person away from tbat truth and lead them astray

Like this

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I truly believe Jesus is the only way to find the truth and be accepted of God the father. I believe all roads lead to destruction except for this way

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I believe that false doctrine is what destroys mankind when we reject the truth all that’s left is lies. But we were warned of this multiple times by the apostles like Peter above or Paul here

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭

I believe the world is filled with evil and wickedness but the gospel is the true understanding of God so we can know him in truth and be saved

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What this post is about is the word of God and how when Christ spoke it is what he said that caused the result and it never fails even when he says to a dead man wake up and walk and live ! His word comes to oss as he speaks it

So what does that mean about things Jesus also said will happen like this ?

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Those things are also his word but the gospel begins to call to and include the believe in his word of life

Like this notice how what he actually said includes the person hearing it and thier action

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

his word is actually making the believer ort of what he’s saying that is true and sirely to come to pass as he speaks it just like everything else he said will and has come to pass even the few short exemples in the op

when he speaks it’s going to be true as he spoke it in that design and manner. So things like this are actually being imprinted upon our character by the gospel when we start listening to his word note how what he’s saying draws the Hearer and believer in him in to become part of it like this

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The point of the post is our o terpretwtions and things of how it is or will be aren’t really relevant but Jesus explainations of how it is and will be will Be the truth of how it is forever . So if we listen to and heed his word about salvation in his kingdom witnessed by his apostles we’re going to be saved .

But often times were herring things and conclusions he never said and made for us because many of us don’t bother looking into his word ourselves and as importantly praying sincerely for God to help us understand what we need to understand

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It's my belief also, that when someone is not forgiving, they are trying to hurt them, even kill them by not forgiving them. And we know God really hates that one, as it's written many many places.

Amen remember this ?

“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:1-3‬ ‭

If we look at Jesus commandments in the New Testament rather than Moses commandments in the ot we’re going to see clearly we’ve all already sinned before or Will in the future so this conclusion of the law Ending in sin and death can’t save us

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

If this becomes true then all are condemned to die

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

but if you have a propitiation to suffice and fulfill this wrath upon the sinners soul , an atonement as it we’re , and you then say this to those sinners who were all proven guilty by the law and condemned to die for thier sin

“Be ye therefore merciful, ( to others ) as your Father also is merciful. ( to you )

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged:

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭

Then imperfect people according to the law of sin and death who would be condemned for a single transgression or “sin “ have hope because of Gods mercy given to them and then commanded by the lord that they give to others in return for what’s been done for them

The Old Testament doesn’t really show us God it has this effect

“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:13-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods children aren’t born from “ thou shalt not kill “ but instead from what his only son taught believers ….

 

[Brasspen]

Jesus said there is but one path to follow. It is narrow and hard to find. Do not stray from it he said.

We know if someone tries to go into the heaven anyway execpet by the gate, which is Jesus, then he is a thief.

That is what they are trying to do by having, 'all paths lead to heaven'. They are trying to sneak in.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus said there is but one path to follow. It is narrow and hard to find. Do not stray from it he said.

We know if someone tries to go into the heaven anyway execpet by the gate, which is Jesus, then he is a thief.

That is what they are trying to do by having, 'all paths lead to heaven'. They are trying to sneak in.

i agree with what you are saying .


But what I took was that he was saying all paths of truth end up leading us to Jesus who is the only way . I could have misinterpreted lol since I hit 70 my mind slips a bit from what it used to be

but your right about what Jesus said almost word for word from johns gospel
. And I agree the only way is the way he’s set before all creation in the gospel , being himself Jesus the lord and his words of life and salvation

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭

christians belong in a single doctrine Christs doctrine , and not many

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.

He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:”
‭‭2 John‬ ‭1:9-10

jesus said many times and the apostles also do that same thing that our foundation is Jesus and the things he taught in the gospel. My own belief is that’s the only way to receive what he’s offering in those same words of covenant with believers, but that’s just my own belief doesn’t mean I’m right

 

[Brasspen]

jesus said many times and the apostles also do that same thing that our foundation is Jesus and the things he taught in the gospel. My own belief is that’s the only way to receive what he’s offering in those same words of covenant with believers, but that’s just my own belief doesn’t mean I’m right

It is the truth. The parable about the house founded on a rock. Jesus is the rock.

 

[GaryA]

No problem, I will just look it up...

GRFS stands for "Grass Roots Football Show" (Birmingham, UK)

Wait - that can't be right...

So - what does GRFS stand for?

God's Rules For Salvation ?
God's Recipe For Salvation ?
God's Revelation For Sinners ?
General Resurrection From Sin ?
General Repulsion From Society ?
Gingerbread Recipe From Scratch ?
Geriatric Rehabilitation For Seniors ?

Sorry - but, at the moment, it escapes me...

More times than not, I can usually figure out what some acronym I am not used to seeing means. And, when you tell me, I may very well say "Oh - okay - yes, of course - how silly of me - thanks." or some such thing - as if it should have been painfully obvious. But, right now, the meaning of this acronym is not occurring to me.

So - what does GRFS stand for?

 

[Cameron143]

No problem, I will just look it up...

GRFS stands for "Grass Roots Football Show" (Birmingham, UK)

Wait - that can't be right...

So - what does GRFS stand for?

God's Rules For Salvation ?
God's Recipe For Salvation ?
God's Revelation For Sinners ?
General Resurrection From Sin ?
General Repulsion From Society ?
Gingerbread Recipe From Scratch ?
Geriatric Rehabilitation For Seniors ?

Sorry - but, at the moment, it escapes me...

More times than not, I can usually figure out what some acronym I am not used to seeing means. And, when you tell me, I may very well say "Oh - okay - yes, of course - how silly of me - thanks." or some such thing - as if it should have been painfully obvious. But, right now, the meaning of this acronym is not occurring to me.

So - what does GRFS stand for?

God's requirements for salvation.

 

[Eli1]

No problem, I will just look it up...

GRFS stands for "Grass Roots Football Show" (Birmingham, UK)

Wait - that can't be right...

So - what does GRFS stand for?

God's Rules For Salvation ?
God's Recipe For Salvation ?
God's Revelation For Sinners ?
General Resurrection From Sin ?
General Repulsion From Society ?
Gingerbread Recipe From Scratch ?
Geriatric Rehabilitation For Seniors ?

Sorry - but, at the moment, it escapes me...

More times than not, I can usually figure out what some acronym I am not used to seeing means. And, when you tell me, I may very well say "Oh - okay - yes, of course - how silly of me - thanks." or some such thing - as if it should have been painfully obvious. But, right now, the meaning of this acronym is not occurring to me.

So - what does GRFS stand for?

It means that when you talk to @GWH you need two interpreters.
The first one is a hieroglyphics interpreter and the second one is an acronyms interpreter.
Together, these two might give us a glimpse as to what @GWH says half the time.

 

[GWH]

Truthseekers around the world in all times are pilgrims at various places along the road of life, and all true roads eventually lead to the Way to eternal life in heaven (JN 14:6, ACTS 24:14, PHP 2:10-11). All truth leads to One Way.”


I really like this part of what you said . There’s one way among many roads is how I would put it. The truth in a world of lies designed to lead us away from the truth that God sent Jesus into the world to speak to mankind that he said will save them.

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭

A pathway set before believers by his word of truth

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus word is where the life offered by God is

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63, 67-69‬ ‭

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But will we believe this ? is the question or reject it for other doctrine designed to pull a person away from tbat truth and lead them astray

Like this

“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I truly believe Jesus is the only way to find the truth and be accepted of God the father. I believe all roads lead to destruction except for this way

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I believe that false doctrine is what destroys mankind when we reject the truth all that’s left is lies. But we were warned of this multiple times by the apostles like Peter above or Paul here

“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:1-4‬ ‭

I believe the world is filled with evil and wickedness but the gospel is the true understanding of God so we can know him in truth and be saved

“And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What this post is about is the word of God and how when Christ spoke it is what he said that caused the result and it never fails even when he says to a dead man wake up and walk and live ! His word comes to oss as he speaks it

So what does that mean about things Jesus also said will happen like this ?

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Those things are also his word but the gospel begins to call to and include the believe in his word of life

Like this notice how what he actually said includes the person hearing it and thier action

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

his word is actually making the believer ort of what he’s saying that is true and sirely to come to pass as he speaks it just like everything else he said will and has come to pass even the few short exemples in the op

when he speaks it’s going to be true as he spoke it in that design and manner. So things like this are actually being imprinted upon our character by the gospel when we start listening to his word note how what he’s saying draws the Hearer and believer in him in to become part of it like this

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The point of the post is our o terpretwtions and things of how it is or will be aren’t really relevant but Jesus explainations of how it is and will be will Be the truth of how it is forever . So if we listen to and heed his word about salvation in his kingdom witnessed by his apostles we’re going to be saved .

But often times were herring things and conclusions he never said and made for us because many of us don’t bother looking into his word ourselves and as importantly praying sincerely for God to help us understand what we need to understand

I appreciate your concern for how all sinners may be saved, although it seems problematic
per most NT teaching to say that they have a second chance to repent after death, thus
I prefer the hints of a proto-gospel that we find a few places in Paul:

Paul said men are without excuse, both because God’s eternal power and divine nature (love) are manifested by creation (RM 1:20), and because a proto-gospel has been proclaimed to everyone under heaven implicitly or in pre-NT foreshadowings (CL 1:23, RM 10:13-18, GL 3:8). He also taught that all normal humans have a conscience or “common” sense (RM 2:14-16), which manifests morality or a moral Authority in every culture.

 

[GWH]

No problem, I will just look it up...

GRFS stands for "Grass Roots Football Show" (Birmingham, UK)

Wait - that can't be right...

So - what does GRFS stand for?

God's Rules For Salvation ?
God's Recipe For Salvation ?
God's Revelation For Sinners ?
General Resurrection From Sin ?
General Repulsion From Society ?
Gingerbread Recipe From Scratch ?
Geriatric Rehabilitation For Seniors ?

Sorry - but, at the moment, it escapes me...

More times than not, I can usually figure out what some acronym I am not used to seeing means. And, when you tell me, I may very well say "Oh - okay - yes, of course - how silly of me - thanks." or some such thing - as if it should have been painfully obvious. But, right now, the meaning of this acronym is not occurring to me.

So - what does GRFS stand for?

LOL! I love your sense of humor! And I like acronyms that I have posted on my CC profile.
GRFS means God's requirement for salvation, as in this excerpt from our website:

A crisis that threatened a Philippian jailer with death prompted him to ask Paul and Silas the most important question in life: “What must I do to be saved?” (ACTS 16:30) This question is most important, because—as sinful and mortal souls—we need saving from corruption, both moral and physical. We need saving from physical death if we value or enjoy life, and we need saving from immorality or evil-doing if it results in unhappy existence, especially after this lifetime.

The reply of Paul and Silas was this: “Believe in the Lord Jesus.” (ACTS 16:31) This is GRFS in a nutshell. Jesus Himself expressed GRFS even more succinctly using three, four and five letter words: “Ask… seek… knock…” (MT 7:7). This indicates that God graces every sinful soul with the ability or opportunity to understand how to be saved (MT 7:7, cf. 1TM 2:3-4), which might be called “seeking grace” (TIT 2:11). As Hebrews 11:6 states: “he [God] rewards those who earnestly seek him” (cf. IS 45:19). Seeking God is the beginning of saving faith, and not seeking God or rejecting His salvation in Christ is the essence of evil atheism or faith in I-dolatry (RM 3:11, 1:18-23).

 

[studier]

LOL! I love your sense of humor! And I like acronyms that I have posted on my CC profile.

Which postings are invisible until if and when you clearly and openly point them out so they're readily identifiable as accessible.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It is the truth. The parable about the house founded on a rock. Jesus is the rock.

Amen ! That’s a wonderful parable for growth and maturing in our belief. Indeed I couldn’t be more in agreement with you on that principle .

really Jesus and his disciples repeat it even moses the prophets spoke of his everlasting word and the life he would give believers

johns gospel seems to really be deep in you it shines from a lot of your thinking it’s a pleasure to discuss with you

“He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:31-36‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:24-26‬ ‭

“Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench:

he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭42:1, 3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭2:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s all Of that type of stuff he promised come to pass he came and spoke to us the truth in his son because mankind had lost judgement and truth

It’s this wonderful stuff being fulfilled

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:1, 6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:9-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all we have to do is listen to our lords word who died for our sins and rose up to save us from death. And take it in prayerfully and he’s able to change us with the same power of creation

this is soeaking of the messiahs word before he’s even been born to speak it prophetically

so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”

think of how Christian’s would believe if they would study the gospel asking the lord to teach them . That’s Christianity really though letting the gospel change our beliefs about God , ourselves , the world we exist in and another we can’t yet see , it changes oitbinderrrsnding of death , of life , of truth of good and evil ect

“ be renewed in the spirit of your mind “ bekieving the lords word does that because until we do we have an aweful lot wrong about God our Heavenly Father who only jesus can lead us home to