andrew wommack

[Ilive4Jesus]

If you want to know who are the false teachers and false prophets of the last days, prophesied of scripture, you're looking at them—

one doesn't have to look very far.

 

[ResidentAlien]

one doesn't have to look very far.

I posted a video of Andrew Wommack and his staff in a blatant lie. What do you have?

 

[Ilive4Jesus]

Did you watch the video I posted above? Did you see the lies Wommack and his staff told about raising a baby from the dead? Is that part of being born again?

I haven't got that far in this thread, and I doubt I will.
This thread is so full of doubt and unbelief,
most of this site is actually, and it is sad.
Very, very, very sad.

 

[BeeThePeace]

Makes you wonder. If this really happened you'd have to book reservations five years in advance to get into one of their healing services. Bethel Redding claims to have people who can raise the dead but they too proved to be liars when it was put to the test. They failed to raise a little girl from the dead after making a very public display of trying to.

Here's the story on Charis (starts @ 40:51).

Kenneth Copeland gives me the creeps.

This type fraud isnt unique apparently.

https://pulpitandpen.org/2019/12/16/bethel-church-dead-raising-team-fails-to-save-2-year-old/

 

[Ilive4Jesus]

I posted a video of Andrew Wommack and his staff in a blatant lie. What do you have?

Actually,
if I told you, all you would do is smear it.
You would still not believe, and you would take it, twist it and try to sow seeds of doubt and unbelief among others.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I haven't got that far in this thread, and I doubt I will.
This thread is so full of doubt and unbelief,
most of this site is actually, and it is sad.
Very, very, very sad.

What you call doubt I call common sense, something sorely lacking these days. That's the truly sad thing.

 

[BeeThePeace]

I haven't got that far in this thread, and I doubt I will.
This thread is so full of doubt and unbelief,
most of this site is actually, and it is sad.
Very, very, very sad.

We are told to test the spirits and not believe everything we're told. Because there will be false teachers that will try to deceive even we the elect of God.

Even Satan can appear as an angel of light, and quote scripture.

We are obeying God's wisdom in pointing out frauds in the church that blaspheme his name and power as charlatans.
And use innocent babies as their prop.

That is what is sad! Very, very, sad!

 

[ResidentAlien]

Actually,
if I told you, all you would do is smear it.

Well, you're probably right about that.

 

[Ilive4Jesus]

Well, you're probably right about that.

Well now, see finally something we agree upon.
You admit you would smear what is shared with you.

You and others talked about using wisdom, and common sense.........
well, it's wisdom and common sense that keep me from sharing with you.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Well now, see finally something we agree upon.
You admit you would smear what is shared with you.

You and others talked about using wisdom, and common sense.........
well, it's wisdom and common sense that keep me from sharing with you.

The only reason I'd "smear" what you say would be if what you shared was just more baseless stories, personal testimony without a shred of evidence, etc. If you have substantiated facts, yes, I'd love to hear and see them. I'm always hoping someone will come forward with something but I'm always disappointed. Don't say I can't see it because I lack faith; that would be like me saying water is really dirt if you only believe.

 

[BeeThePeace]

Well, you're probably right about that.

Are they resorting to the appeal to ignorance fallacy here?

 

[Ilive4Jesus]

The only reason I'd "smear" what you say would be if what you shared was just more baseless stories, personal testimony without a shred of evidence, etc.

And how do expect someone to give you "proof"?

 

[2Cor41718]

Kenneth Copeland gives me the creeps.

This type fraud isnt unique apparently.

https://pulpitandpen.org/2019/12/16/bethel-church-dead-raising-team-fails-to-save-2-year-old/

I don’t know about Kenneth Copland. I rarely watch him.

Are they resorting to the appeal to ignorance fallacy here?

May you be richly blessed today and walk in joy and peace. As you keep your mind focused on Jesus

 

[2Cor41718]

I posted a video of Andrew Wommack and his staff in a blatant lie. What do you have?

Resident Alien. Based on your previous posts. I sense strife, anger and a lack of peace and joy in your life. Getting your mind focused on the Word of God is the remedy. 😊

 

[ResidentAlien]

Resident Alien. Based on your previous posts. I sense strife, anger and a lack of peace and joy in your life. Getting your mind focused on the Word of God is the remedy. 😊

And by getting my "mind focused on the Word of God" I'm sure you mean getting my mind focused on Word Faith interpretation of His word.

We all have things we could do better with. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[ChristianTonyB]

Hi There.
I believed he was a false teacher for many years. Because that is what I was taught. I have sense experienced a transformed life through what he teaches. Most important he has taught how to read the Bible, pray and worship God. I have experienced a transformed life. May God richly bless you.

Even Satan can teach from scripture in order to deceive. Your transformation should be from an Adamic nature to a Christ like one. It's the power of the word/scripture that transforms, not a human or demonic giver of it. If you compare how Christ, the apostles, Barnabas, Timothy, Stephen, etc, conducted their lives with how Andrew Wommack has conducted his, they're chalk and cheese.
You can be a good teacher of scripture, but not necessarily a good, or rather a true, follower of Christ. It's best we be very discerning about Who we should imitate, and who not.

 

[2Cor41718]

Even Satan can teach from scripture in order to deceive. Your transformation should be from an Adamic nature to a Christ like one. It's the power of the word/scripture that transforms, not a human or demonic giver of it. If you compare how Christ, the apostles, Barnabas, Timothy, Stephen, etc, conducted their lives with how Andrew Wommack has conducted his, they're chalk and cheese.
You can be a good teacher of scripture, but not necessarily a good, or rather a true, follower of Christ. It's best we be very discerning about Who we should imitate, and who not.

May God richly bless you in your journey of knowing and growing in Him.

 

[ChristianTonyB]

May God richly bless you in your journey of knowing and growing in Him.

Thank you. And you too. That's what I've tried to do right throughout my Christian walk.

I dont put my trust in man. For my own life's sake I've striven to follow only the One Lord, and that is through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There is no better Teacher, and He is made available to every human being whose spirit has been brought to life, born again by God. Why any self respecting soul would want to do otherwise, is just beyond belief to me... it's plainly self destructive.

 

[2Cor41718]

Thank you. And you too. That's what I've tried to do right throughout my Christian walk.

I dont put my trust in man. For my own life's sake I've striven to follow only the One Lord, and that is through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There is no better Teacher, and He is made available to every human being whose spirit has been brought to life, born again by God. Why any self respecting soul would want to do otherwise, is just beyond belief to me... it's plainly self destructive.

Following any man will eventually leading to disappointment. I used to put bible teachers on pedestals for many years on my life. We must learn to put our trust in God. Man is a fallen creature, and will always be on this earth. As you said the Holy Spirit will guide and teach us to the extent we are willing to yield to Him. (John 14:26)

 

[ChristianTonyB]

Following any man will eventually leading to disappointment. I used to put bible teachers on pedestals for many years on my life. We must learn to put our trust in God. Man is a fallen creature, and will always be on this earth. As you said the Holy Spirit will guide and teach us to the extent we are willing to yield to Him. (John 14:26)

Yes mate. We mustn't put total trust in ourselves ("don't rely on your own understanding"), in AW, or in anyone else... we are all prone to making misjudgements. In fact, I'm being really unfair, and putting unfair expectations on them, to put total trust in anyone except God.