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Moshelijah
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Moshelijah
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lol @ Ryan
Sabbath or not its NOT the Mark..
The Mark of the Beast is Catholic Christinings..(CROSS ON THE FOREHEAD)
Most of you have it...lol
Sabbath or not its NOT the Mark..
The Mark of the Beast is Catholic Christinings..(CROSS ON THE FOREHEAD)
Most of you have it...lol
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Cup-of-Ruin
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If murder is in the mind and heart of a man has he not already committed murder? Fulfillment of the law, Christ fulfills, He does not take away...Do I say there is no Sabbath? I do not say that, I said; there is the Sabbath as God intended it to be, you shall keep His Sabbath holy and you shalt not kill, but it's everyday, we got it wrong, both you and I, all of us we are wrong - so Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath; Luke 6:5. Everyday, do you understand that? Fulfillment - to fill fully, I do nothing one day do I serve Christ? Everday it must be, what day is that I should keep holy? Is it one day or everyday? God worked for six days! What is my work in comparison? That I should rest and believe I have served GOD! I sinned for six days that is all I did, the seventh day is a eternal day, and I have no addmission to an eternal day less Christ be my Lord! I am worthy of an eternal Sabbath? No! So I rest in Christ ----- for He is worthy and I should rest seven days a week!!!!
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Cup-of-Ruin
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The Cross is not a number and it does not have a numerical value of 666, therefore it is not the mark...I myself have never recieved a Catholic Christining, but I am sure that anybody that has, has no need to worry about it, as it is not the 'mark' of the beast...
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leendert
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Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people
sa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
God seems to take this sabbath thing very seriously...
ct 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Seems like Jesus forgot to tell Paul and Barnabas that this sabbath thing has been cancelled
Anyway... just sit there and for a second lets consider that im right...How complete would this deception be. If sunday is the mark of the beast how many poeple would be lost ?
Ok im done . ill leave all you poeple to your important business.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people
sa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Isa 58:14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
God seems to take this sabbath thing very seriously...
ct 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Seems like Jesus forgot to tell Paul and Barnabas that this sabbath thing has been cancelled
Anyway... just sit there and for a second lets consider that im right...How complete would this deception be. If sunday is the mark of the beast how many poeple would be lost ?
Ok im done . ill leave all you poeple to your important business.
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Moshelijah
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I never said the cross was a number, you did.
What if the official title of the pope did add to exactly six hundred and sixty six.
Not a secret title, but the one and only papal title, which is on the vatican herself.
walls, doors, ceilings, documents, official coins, everything...
all over Rome and concentrated in the vatican...everywhere...
What if the official title of the pope did add to exactly six hundred and sixty six.
i thought 666 was an error it should be 616 or something. Several of the oldest bible manuscripts, and even the oldest one of all, read six hundred sixteen
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Cup-of-Ruin
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'Snail, the number is 666, any 616 interpretation is false, any bible scholar worth his salt knows that the 616 business is nothing but a hoax.
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Cup-of-Ruin
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most bible scholars understand 666 to be Nero, or if it is 616 "Nero Ceasa"r in latin. 616 predates 666 by 100 years so original would have been 616. But Neros adds up to either 666 or 616.
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Cup-of-Ruin
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'oldest', certainly no one agrees on this one particular manuscript scrap is the oldest, one scap, most likely an error, which is what Iraneaus concluded in the 2nd century which is a century before this one particular researcher and a few others on research grants want to prove is true, one scrap, from a dumpster , I mean really do I have to go through this 'Snail, dear me surely common sense must prevail here, 666 is used 5 times in the Bible OT and NT, no evidence for an OT 616? No of course not, this is ridiculous 'Snail, I told you that any bible scholar worth his salt knows that it is 666, it's not 616.
Well certain professors of the new testament hold to a 616 view so they must have good enough reasons. But I'm partial to a 666, in either way, I believe it is not a Pope, but a former Roman Emperor living at or around the time Revelation was written. I agree with you Cup, that the idea the mark is the cross or anything like that is, nonsense.
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Lad
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well i personally believe the mark is symbolic for worship. so lyk we are marked/sealed in Christ because we follow and belong to him, everyone else is marked with satans mark cos they belong to him. also i believe the antichrist is any and all systems that goes against Jesus, and has been around since the ascension. i dunno thats jst wat i believe. as to 666 i believe its just the number of man Gods number is 7 which represents totality and completeness and God himself. 6 comes short of 7 therefore saying that man is below God and is evil.
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Moshelijah
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Moshelijah
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nonsense ha
the devil takes the covenant and turns baptism into a sprinkle and a cross ON THE FOREHEAD.
AND YOUR DEFENDING IT...so tell your family not to be immersed into water for salvation.
Tell them you would rather they have a man in scarlet and gold robes to put a
cross ON THEIR FOREHEAD. then make a sign of the cross with THE RIGHT HAND...
God forgive you...
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Cup-of-Ruin
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Moshelijah it is clear you don't have a clue about these things.
If you think the sign of the cross is the mark of the beast, then you must think that the beast, which the sign represents, is Christ.
If you think the sign of the cross is the mark of the beast, then you must think that the beast, which the sign represents, is Christ.
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leendert
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I believe you are very right.I dont think a barcode or computer in brussels or a chip would make a difference to God . What would make a big difference would be if you listened to this antichrist and not to God.666 is indeed the number of a man,the head of the system that reighned in Christs time aswell.
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Moshelijah
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ruin and snail you both speak too soon
youre both idol worshipers
PONTIFEX MAXIMUS IS THE OFFICIAL TITLE OF THE POPE. abbreviated to PONT MAX which adds to 666.
It takes a mind with wisdom to calculate it. so i wont hold my breath for you two. Go kiss a cross or hang it around your neck. Flip Jesus the bird why dont ya.
A crucifix represents satans victory over Christ.
youre both idol worshipers
PONTIFEX MAXIMUS IS THE OFFICIAL TITLE OF THE POPE. abbreviated to PONT MAX which adds to 666.
It takes a mind with wisdom to calculate it. so i wont hold my breath for you two. Go kiss a cross or hang it around your neck. Flip Jesus the bird why dont ya.
A crucifix represents satans victory over Christ.