Will you please post the Scriptures you use? You're asking everybody else about what Scriptures they use, but I rather see which ones you use. And what do these Scriptures reveal or explain or teach you?
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Will you please post the Scriptures you use? You're asking everybody else about what Scriptures they use, but I rather see which ones you use. And what do these Scriptures reveal or explain or teach you?
the Antichrist making a covenant with many is Daniel 9:27. This verse states, "He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator
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Thessalonians 2:4. This verse states that the Antichrist will "oppose and exalt himself above every god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God".
He can only achieve these things if he is a man of peace
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Every Scripture in Daniel that speaks of this beast, man of sin, son of perdition, anti-Christ speaks of a person that is evil, vial, and violent.Will you please post the Scriptures you use? You're asking everybody else about what Scriptures they use, but I rather see which ones you use. And what do these Scriptures reveal or explain or teach you?
Never that he brings peace
He places himself above all gods, false and the God of creation, and demands to be worshiped.
Jesus in Mark says he will stand where he ought not.
Never says he will bring peace.
Revelation states that when he comes forth, He brings great tribulation. not peace.
No one has shown me two Scriptures that says he comes in peace or as Christ.
If someone says He is here or there do not be fooled. When the son of man returns every one will know. Chapter and verse i dont recall but Christ said it and it can be found easily. Sure sounds to me like someone (man of sin) is coming in the guise of Christ or at least a holy man.
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Howdy
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That is you opinion, not what the Bible says.
You translation changes the wording and meaning of the Scripture and is not correct.
The man of sin, the beast, the anti-Christ is not found in Daniel 9.
Daniel 9:27 is speaking of Jesus confirming THE Covenant promised by God in Jeremiah 31 when He was crucified in the middle of the 70TH week.
The people of the prince to come is speaking of the army Vaspasian that destroyed Jerusalem in 70 ad.
I don't think they will or even can, though they demand it from us without having the courtesy of doing the sameWill you please list the specific verses you're using?
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Howdy
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Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:21-37, Daniel 7, Daniel 8:23:24
I could list many more, but do not have the time now.
Now post me at least 2 Scriptures that supports you opinion.
I say two because Scripture proves Scripture and to base a belief on only one verse leads to the many false teaching we have today.
I dont know who Howdy has been watching/listening or talking too but I hope he asks them how some evil murderous animal is going to bring peace among Israel and her enemies before taking over the temple. The versus he/she posted refute nothing. Oh and I could post a bunch but dont have time. 
I already did in my post above also all the verses you posted only proves my point not yours so you will have to do better than that. look at them again where does it state he will be evil and murderous? I see how he will have authority to speak blasheme he will speak with flattery but evil? nope don't see that anywhere
Also it speaks of him making war but after all the parts where it speaks of him using flattery and having the authority to speak blaspheme exalting himself as God ect.
forgive me if I am wrong here but does this not prove what I said? how could a vicious evil man speak flattery?
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Howdy
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When I listened to others years ago, I was taught what you are saying.I dont know who Howdy has been watching/listening or talking too but I hope he asks them how some evil murderous animal is going to bring peace among Israel and her enemies before taking over the temple. The versus he/she posted refute nothing. Oh and I could post a bunch but dont have time.
When I learned to study and began to study for myself, I learned those who taught me were wrong.
Everything I believe is based on my personal study. Many agree with me, most have been deceived as I was for many years.
There will be no third temple.
There will be no seven peace treaty with Israel.
The beast will not come as THE CHRIST.
The anti-Christ is not mentioned in Daniel 9.
Daniel 9:27 states Jesus will confirm THE COVENANT promised by God in Jeremiah 31 in the middle of the seventh week when He dies on the cross.
The teaching that the beast will make peace treaty with Israel for seven years and breaks it after three and a half is based on a wrong understanding of Daniel 9:27.
The beast will come out of Islam and his kingdom will be those nations in the middle east that have been at war with Israel for 77 years.
That is all I will say on this thread.
So you have plenty of experience in study but are not willing to discuss it because you don't have the time or something?
If Jesus is the one that makes the covanent does that mean it will be at his second coming? I am not trying to debate I am asking because I am tryingg to understand your theology here. and as for there not being a third temple they already have all the supplied needed to be build it they even did a practice sacrafive so when this temple is built which apparently is soon what then? is that not a third temple?
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Should have listened to those who taught you
I also recal that he will declare himself to be God or rather above God but this is just one of the many things he will do he also will wage war against the saints at some point
The anti-Christ spirit is manifested as atheism (Psa. 14:1, 10:2-6), which is believed by all Jews (Rom. 9:1-8, 10:1-3)
and Muslims/Gentiles who reject Jesus as Messiah (Rom. 11:11-25),
along with all heretics or nominal Christians who teach an unorthodox creed. (Gal. 1:6-9, 5:1-7)
and Muslims/Gentiles who reject Jesus as Messiah (Rom. 11:11-25),
along with all heretics or nominal Christians who teach an unorthodox creed. (Gal. 1:6-9, 5:1-7)