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Ariel82
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They came last week. I told them that I knew God and if i had any questions about their faith I had a few friends who belong to the local assembly and I could ask them.
No all my friends have been witnessed to and for them to have a blessed day....would they like to donate some money to the homeless? our church is organizing a project to help them.
They haven't really been back since.
You could go on their official site where you can download their books for free. One in particular that gives details of all their beliefs is '' Reasoning from the Scriptures'' This is what the average JW uses to bone up on Door to Door work. You will never be offered one on the door step.
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Way back when hubby was young (and I was still a kid), his coworker was a curmudgeon with a heart of gold. Infinitely grumpy, but the guy was also willing to bend over backwards to help anyone. He was a Christian, and he and his wife invited hubby and hubby's first wife to dinner. Then hubby met the true heart of an evangelist. His coworker's wife.
(Hubby, not only wasn't my hubby back then, he hated Christianity and God too. She spent every night for three weeks with him as he returned again and again to argue with her. On the last night, he went away so angry he was considering killing her. The next morning, he woke up a believer.)
She made a deal with some JW's who stopped off at her house. She said she would have them come in and would listen to everything they said without ripping them apart or arguing. In exchange, they had to give her equal time. They had to listen to her without arguing or ripping her apart. If they took half an hour, she got half an hour. If they took an hour, she got an hour, etc.
They agreed. She invited them in, made some tea, made them something to eat, and sat with them at her kitchen table to eat and listen.
And they did for an hour. When they were done, she poured some more tea, but suddenly they had to go. She smiled, walked around them to her front door, and locked it before they could walk out. Then she reminded them of their promise and asked them what they thought God would think of them breaking their promise.
She got her equal time. One by one, she took everything they said was in the Bible and showed them how they were wrong with the Bible they brought. When they started to interrupt, she asked if they'd like something else to eat or drink.
An hour of that. By the end of the hour, she had them, at the very least, confused. They couldn't deny she was speaking truth, but exactly how easily can you give up a long-held belief even when you are proved wrong?
At the end of the hour, they thanked her and bolted out of the door.
It was the last time JW's came to her door, so word got out. lol
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If I'm not mistaken, their Bible version is KJV. As for counter them, it's usually done simply by reading what they're saying in context. Jesus is a god, for instance is from John 1:1. It's countered 17 verses later, but they ignore that part.
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I want the thin mints for free.
...............lol
Just saying. lol
(Hmm, seems familiar. Women. Thread. Food. lol)
I have felt that way, too. I don't think we were all meant to engage them verbally. Some people may be quite gifted in that regard, such as Post
I sure don't think I am 
But if they keep coming at you and you feel flustered or flummoxed by them, you really do just have to tell them to leave you alone, or some variation thereof. They will respect your wishes. As long as you keep the dialogue open they will keep trying to get you onside with them, unless you can talk circles around them with the gospel message. 
JWs have their own special Bible. It changes John 1:1. That is how they get Jesus being a god and not God. Thier Bible is called the new world translation, or NWT, and was written by Charles Taze Russell.
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I got my verse wrong. It's still there in their Bible. John 1:14. And it goes on to say John the Baptist said he's the one, so next go where Jesus was baptised. Amazing thing about God's word, even if you try to change it, it doesn't hold out the full way. It is still his word. They can be disproven through their own bible version.
Tell them you're a devil worshipper, that you have dead bodies in your basement and that if they EVER knock on your door again, THEY will be your next victims.. lol.. It worked for me.
Thats lying.
So? It's also an effective deterrent. And JW's lie to US when they tell us that we will all have our own planets someday, and become gods, and work to get on the different levels of heaven. My little white fib is alot more harmless than their evil lie is..
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jennymae
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Oh wow, so I just need to become a JW and then I'll get a planet of my own?
AND you can even put up a sign that says "welcome to Jennymae's planet". lol
Integrity is a major issue in all areas of life as practical people try to determine whom they can trust. The world watches believers for inconsistencies in their words and behavior. When we stumble, unbelievers get an inaccurate glimpse into the character of God and they seek to justify their own sinful behavior.1 Romans 3:7 explains that even if a lie were spoken for God’s glory, it would still be a sin. “For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?” In 1 Timothy 1:10, Paul lists lying along with other reprehensible behaviors that are “contrary to sound doctrine.” Finally, Revelation 21:8 lists “all liars” among those sinners who—apart from the grace available through Christ’s blood—merit punishment in the lake of fire.
Titus 1:2 clearly states God “cannot lie.” Assertions to the contrary can be resolved by a careful study of the text, “rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). We always need to see what the Bible actually does and does not say, lest we, as Alfred Edersheim warned, be guilty of “elaborate trifling with the most sacred things.”2
Not only is lying foreign to God’s holy nature, but the original lie in the Garden of Eden had horrible consequences that led to man’s sin and the need for Christ’s sacrifice. Integrity and trustworthiness make you the sort of person people trust, rely on, and respect. But if you begin playing loose with the truth, those who know and love and even respect you—like your spouse and children and coworkers—will forevermore wonder if they can rely on what you’re saying.
Just a white lie? Jesus spoke of being trusted with small things before being trusted with big ones. He trusts us with many opportunities to get in the good habit of telling the truth. At the same time, we will be building a reputation of truthfulness and trustworthiness. But if we’re in the habit of using little lies of convenience, we will have little conviction holding us back when it “really” counts.
Lying is such an easy sin to slip into. Hebrews 12:1 warns Christians to lay aside “the sin which so easily ensnares us.” Furthermore, remembering that God “cannot lie” (Hebrews 6:18), we as Christians should strive to “be imitators of God as dear children” (Ephesians 5:1). As we seek to please the Lord Jesus Christ whose blood has bought us, and to show our Savior to the watching world, we should all ask the Lord to help us cultivate the habit of gracious honesty and integrity. -answersingenesis...
That is the LDS (Latter Day Saints, also known as Mormons). Their god lives on the planet Kolob, was once a man like we are (not in reference to Jesus Christ but how they understand God the Father), and in fact that He still has a body of flesh and bone like we do. They believe God had a physical relationship with Mary that she might conceive Jesus Christ. Brigham Young taught that Adam was actually God, though that belief has mostly been abandoned. They believe Jesus Christ is a created being Who is the spirit brother of Satan, and that He is only a god in the same way we can all become gods... they also believe they can save people by having baptismal ceremonies for dead people. They do not accept the Bible as the final authority on such matters. Joseph Smith and his golden plates changed all that for them.Oh wow, so I just need to become a JW and then I'll get a planet of my own?
Geesh Polly, haven't you ever heard of a little thing called repentance? I repent of lying to them. Do they repent of lying to ME? Highly doubtful.
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wwjd_kilden
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I don't know what you've already told them, but I wonder how they will react if you tell them that Jesus Christ is your God and Saviour and ask them if they have given their life over to Him (and if they don't say yes, offer to pray with them) ?
I never really engage in talks with JW, LDS or others , I can't keep track of what they say so i get confused
I never really engage in talks with JW, LDS or others , I can't keep track of what they say so i get confused
Yes, I am well aware of what repentance is and also what repentance means. Are you saying that you asked for forgiveness after you lied? Are you saying you have turned from lying? I hope so!
Because this is what you said just hours ago defending your lying as if its okay because you are talking to those who follow the father of lies. Im not going to dismiss your watery understanding of lying. God aint playing! God is sovereign!
"So? It's also an effective deterrent. And JW's lie to US when they tell us that we will all have our own planets someday, and become gods, and work to get on the different levels of heaven. My little white fib is alot more harmless than their evil lie is.."
How about just stating the truth: Hey JW! You follow doctrines of demons and you are not saved by the Christ of the word..
Jesus is God. John 1:1, John 14:6.
We dont compare ourselves to the lost. We examine ourselves to see that we are in the faith. We are supposed to be new creations in Christ with the mind of Christ.
Just quit glossing your sin over and making excuses. Geesh. Im done here.
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sassylady
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There's no law that says you have to answer your door or phone. I don't want to argue with somebody who is determined to try to change me, so I don't open the door.
