Jews by rejecting Jesus, and forfeiting the protection of God.Who destroyed Jerusalem?
Read what I provided to you.
Hos 13:9: "O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help."
Same in the days of Nebuchadnezzar.
Jews by rejecting Jesus, and forfeiting the protection of God.Who destroyed Jerusalem?
Spin again.Jews
7 seems to be a complete number and 3.5 is a measire of half of that complete time measure of 7( based on the creation the seventh day became a day of rest and completion of creation )Actually I'm still mostly a futurist, just in the minority of post-trib camp. Besides I believe that Revelation is not narrated in a chronological order, at least 7 trumpets and 7 bowls are the same, and all mentions of 3.5 years are referring to the same 3.5 year period.
After the Messiah was cut off, the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 A.D.
"the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary" (Dan 9:27)
7 seems to be a complete number and 3.5 is a measire of half of that complete time measure of 7( based on the creation the seventh day became a day of rest and completion of creation )
the amount of sevens in revelation seems to suggest it’s never literal but is a figure that has meaning throughout scripture of completion whereas 3.5 is a half measure and 3.5 added to that makes seven again a completion
I think revelation should be considered in a perpetual and spiritual figurative frame given John is taken into heaven and the rest of scripture is from the position of earth.
seven spirits seven trumpets seven seals seven vials , seven eyes in the lamb , seven lamps of fire burning before the throne , seven churches , seven angels , ect seven seems to be part of a theme offering some sort of understanding rather than chronological measure of time
The law and prophets ( two witnesses ) seems to represent the first 3.5….and the. After Christ is taken into heaven and sat upon the throne the gospel seems to represent the second 3.5
possibly a reference to the Old Testament and then the New Testament being preached In The world
“And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.”
Revelation 11:3-4 KJV
“Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.”
Zechariah 4:11, 14 KJV
“And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elijah : Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.”
Luke 9:29-31 KJV
Moses would represent the witness of the law and Elijah the witness of the prophets who both witness of Christ
it seems the ot was preached until Christ came
“For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.”
Matthew 11:13 KJV
and after he died and rose the gospel would be preached to complete time
“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
Matthew 24:14 KJV
7 could measure The completion which would mean 3.5 represents the ot time and 3.5 represents the nt time
“The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
it would make sense because in revelation the first three and a half takes place before the son is taken up then the dragon is cast out and gives the beast dominion for 3.5 while he wars against the Christians until Christ returns from heaven later in the book
just a THought to consider or reject revelation is a book of apocalypse it offers “uncovering “of scripture
Ecc 1:9, 3:15.Spin again.
After the Messiah was cut off, the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 A.D.
"the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary" (Dan 9:27)
P.S.
Hos 13:9 described a past event, not a future event.
Sorry but the Great Tribulation was not triggered in the 1st century, and that ties in with the Abomination of Desolation, which will be triggered by "the prince that shall come" (the Little Horn who is also the Antichrist). So this is a future event.Not quite the exact opposite. And - "the prince that shall come" - already came - circa 70 A.D.
So do you know what this passage is saying? So far it seems that you do not. And there are definitely dots to be connected. So kindly make the effort.It is far better to throw away that construct and seek to understand what Daniel 9:24-27 is actually saying.
It really frustrating that the dispensationalist view is almost universally adopted by every pastor in every church - when it comes to Daniel's 70 weeks and other prophecies in Daniel.
It really frustrating that the dispensationalist view is almost universally adopted by every pastor in every church - when it comes to Daniel's 70 weeks and other prophecies in Daniel.
I wrote this short study of Daniel's Seventy Weeks prophecy and just posted it in the BLOG's category. This is the proper understanding of the prophecy but don't expect it to match with the more common teachings most people believe.
Thanks for sharing this, man. The understanding of all these prophecies is hinged upon one key term:
Abomination of Desolation
Most common futurist interpretation tells you that this is the Antichrist setting up his image, a hologram or statue or something, in a physical third temple built on the Temple Mount in modern day Israel. This kind of literal interpretation is specifically and precisely rebuked in John 2:21 -
"But he was speaking of the temple of His body."
And what is His body? The church! The collection of our physical beings around the globe! It is said in 1 Corinthians 6:19 -
"Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?"
This may sound like another internet conspiracy theory, but believe it or not, man, this BODY, our physical body as the temple of the Holy Spirit is gonna be the temple that Satan defiles by setting his image. In Rev. 13 he's gonna have the power to "breathe life into the image of the Beast", making it a living being. That's definitely not a hologram or a statue, not even a robot. How's he gonna do that? Go back to the original image in Gen. 1:26:
"Come, let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness."
No matter how evil, how broken, how brainwashed, how too far gone a man can be, Nero to Hitler, he's still made in the image of God. But at the end times, Satan will have the power to remake it into his image. In the days of Noah, fallen angels were breeding with human females, and they begot those giants, aka "Nehphelims"; this time, though, through genetic engineering and synthetic drugs. You've probably heard about the mRNA in the clotshot, this is all but a test run for the real killer that will permanently alter human DNA, and thus permanently separate the recipient from God.
Dear Carry Your Name,
You are on the right track with your understanding of the abomination of desolation. But you need to continue with that "mindset" with your understanding of the other end-time teachings.
I'll try to explain below:
To properly understand "end-time" prophecy, we must understand that there was a significant change when the Old Covenant ended and the New Covenant began. All the "end-time" prophecies must be understood by in terms of the New Covenant. The New Covenant is SPIRITUAL and is 100% the work of Christ "within" mankind. We contribute nothing towards our own salvation.
The physical temple was for the Old Covenant. The new temple (like you pointed out) is now a believer in which the Holy Spirit resides. All the end-time prophecies should be understood as spiritual and the events they describe as happening "within" each individual believer. The physical and outward approach to Christ ended with the Old Covenant. The Old Covenant was man's attempt to be reconciled to God by our own "works". But once a believer realizes that our "works" will always fail in that regard, that knowledge will lead us to Christ who will do all the work of saving us. And Christ's work is spiritual because mankind's sin problem is spiritual.
Nearly all End-time prophecies are teaching about the spiritual pathway that leads to conversion. When you approach the prophecies in this manner, they will fit together like pieces in a puzzle. But the issue for most is they DO NOT understand the pathway to salvation. This pathway is the central aspect of the "great mystery of Christ and His church" (Eph 5:32). It is the most hidden teaching in scripture. At the core of the pathway is the teaching on the Early and Latter Rain of the Spirit.
The "end-time" which is being taught in scripture is the end-time of a believer's spiritually marred vessel which produces our carnal nature. It must and will be destroyed so that we can become a new vessel, the temple of God. That is what conversion is and what it means to be "born again".
When the Early Rain falls on an unbeliever, it is the time when they are "called out from the world" and enter the "church". Between the time of the Early and Latter Rain is when the abomination of desolation occurs within them. The spiritual symbol which represents this time period is "time, times, and half a time". It is also called 3 1/2 years/days, 1260 days and 42 months. Whenever you see these terms used in a verse, they are teaching about this time period which each believer will experience between the Early and Latter Rain. It is a time of drought and Satan's deceptions. Understanding this truth is key to unlocking end-time prophecy.
Matt 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
All believers, whether chosen or not, will experience the Early Rain, along with all the events associated with the "time, times and half a time". But only chosen believers will receive the Latter Rain (Baptism of the Holy Spirit). The Latter Rain is the same event the Apostles received on the Day of Pentecost and the same event Paul received after being in Damascus for 3 days. The Latter Rain (Baptism of the Holy Spirit) is when salvation (conversion) occurs. When the Latter Rain falls on one of God's chosen Elect, it causes a spiritual earthquake with lightning and thunder and trumpets. Their worldly carnal paradigm is destroyed and they are given a new paradigm in Christ. It is at this point that their sun is darkened and their moon is turned to blood. This is a spiritual event which happens within them when Christ heals their spiritual blindness and gives them "eyes that can see". As a result, they no longer receive the natural light of this carnal world. They now receive their "light" (truth of God) directly from Christ. It is the most important event in the life of any person. Only with this newly acquired spiritual vision will the scriptures open up to them so that Christ (the Word of God) will "appear" to them. In other words, Christ will no longer be "veiled" from them.
I received the Latter Rain on Oct. 8, 2005. It turned my Christian life upside down. All my understanding of scripture changed. It was an earth shaking event. I posted my conversion testimony in my profile.
If you have any specific questions about anything I touched on in my post, I would be happy to try to answer them for you.
I am encouraged that you are starting to see spiritually since you are correctly understanding the spiritual nature of the abomination of desolation. Most believers cannot see this truth.
Joe
“Early rain” and “latter rain” are weird terms. Physically speaking, to every human being, that’s the fluid in the womb and the first cry out of the womb; but to believers, according to John 3:5 there’s only water baptism and spirit baptism.
By the way, are you from the idealist camp? Idealism interpretation of prophecies is a heresy to me, which I firmly reject. It sounds like the New Age cult. We’ll be a part of God’s prophecy, but prophecies are not just about us. OT prophecies are all around the fate of Israel, while in Revelation, it’s about the whole world. The most accurate interpretation of Revelation, and the only interpretation I can believe in, is biblical interpretation. When it comes to some puzzling symbols, whatever OT reference says it is, then that’s what it is.
1. There is no contextual link between Ecc 1:9/3:15.Ecc 1:9, 3:15.
Not at all. Typical agricultural terms that are perfectly well understood by any Israelite. Both are crucial for the barley crop and wheat crop.“Early rain” and “latter rain” are weird terms.
Let me ask you this:
You believe that the abomination of desolation happens in God's temple, the believer. If it happens there, why don' t you believe the rest of end-time prophecy happens there?
A of D is undoubtedly connected with the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. Yes...the mark is PROBABLY some kind of transhumanism IMO. But the demand for all to take the "mark" follows the A of D act of ultimate rebellion (in the Jerusalem Temple) per se committed by the beast.Because my understanding of “abomination of desolation” is still a physical event in the material world, which is the modification of human genome. That’s called “transhumanism”. I suppose you must be no stranger of that. The Babylonian world system and everything else is real, painstakingly real. There’s no “spiritualization” of that.
Because my understanding of “abomination of desolation” is still a physical event in the material world, which is the modification of human genome. That’s called “transhumanism”. I suppose you must be no stranger of that. The Babylonian world system and everything else is real, painstakingly real. There’s no “spiritualization” of that.