Are Americans that speak against Trump Treasonous?

[Lifted_by_the_word]

Any real Christian should stay away from worldly politics,period.People who love a politician who claims to be a Christian like Trump are no different than a Christian going to a Church being led by a pastor with no Holy Spirit.
You'll take in what they will say.You'll eat it up,spew it out,and lick it back up.
A dog will over eat,spew out what it ate and lick it back up.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Hello folks,
I am sure you know who Charlie Kirk was.
But did you know, that he wanted a death punishment for ex-president Joe Biden?

Nevertheless if you knew or not knew, what do you think about that? And can you argue from a thelogical viewpoint?

Yeah, if he did wrong, it was this: EX 22:28 you shall not curse god or a ruler of your people.

Personally, I don't think he was cursing Joe Biden per se; but there's an argument that Joe Biden was not acting in interests of the United States, and depending on how you look at it, maybe even did levy war against the United States by allowing a mass of violent foreigners enter and murder and pillage... and there's still an argument about whether or not he really was the elected president in the first place, although I think it's long past time for any discussion about that to be productive.

US politics is emotionally super-charged, and it's easy for Americans to forget to check their tongue because "free-speech". But in any case, I don't think he was calling for Joe Biden to be assassinated, or for anything unlawful to happen.

 

[the_seeker]

Yeah, if he did wrong, it was this: EX 22:28 you shall not curse god or a ruler of your people.

Personally, I don't think he was cursing Joe Biden per se; but there's an argument that Joe Biden was not acting in interests of the United States, and depending on how you look at it, maybe even did levy war against the United States by allowing a mass of violent foreigners enter and murder and pillage... and there's still an argument about whether or not he really was the elected president in the first place, although I think it's long past time for any discussion about that to be productive.

US politics is emotionally super-charged, and it's easy for Americans to forget to check their tongue because "free-speech". But in any case, I don't think he was calling for Joe Biden to be assassinated, or for anything unlawful to happen.

Well, I saw a clip where Kirk went pretty long into wanting a death penalty for Mr Biden.
Nevertheless, for a north-european like me, stepping into the extremely polarized political debates among you americans is maybe not the cleverist thing one might do.

But to finish this off:
I regard Mr Trump as a kind of a devil. And I really mean the "devil" with a small "d". He's not the Big Nasty one, but he surely is a servant of the-one-do-not-mention-his-name. And I mean what I write.

And if Mr Kirk really wanted the death penalty of Mr Biden, then my trust to Mr Kirk is falling very low. Very very low I have to say.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Nevertheless, for a north-european like me, stepping into the extremely polarized political debates among you americans is maybe not the cleverist thing one might do.

Maybe not, unless you're rooting for the populists
From what I understand, a lot of Europe is going through similar crisis as the US. Hopefully we all get it sorted out.

 

[the_seeker]

Face this:

According to a serious fact-checking site, Mr Kirk said:

"Joe Biden is a bumbling, dementia-filled Alzheimer's, corrupt, tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."

link given below.

Now, what do you think about this? Did Mr Kirk act as christians should do?
If No: I agree with you.
If yes: What kind of a human being are you actually?

I know that Mr Kirk was a hero for a lot of christians in the US, but then I have to ask:
Why? A hero, saying things like this? What kind of heroes are you devoting to? Face that !

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-actually-232000071.html

 

[the_seeker]

From what I understand, a lot of Europe is going through similar crisis as the US.

Sort of, yes, but I think not so polarized as in US.

 

[ZNP]

Face this:

According to a serious fact-checking site, Mr Kirk said:

"Joe Biden is a bumbling, dementia-filled Alzheimer's, corrupt, tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America."

link given below.

Now, what do you think about this? Did Mr Kirk act as christians should do?
If No: I agree with you.
If yes: What kind of a human being are you actually?

I know that Mr Kirk was a hero for a lot of christians in the US, but then I have to ask:
Why? A hero, saying things like this? What kind of heroes are you devoting to? Face that !

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-actually-232000071.html

1. To describe Joe Biden at that time as "bumbling" is a fair description.

2. To describe him as "dementia filled" has also been confirmed as being factual.

3. To say that Joe Biden should be imprisoned is also based on the evidence of his family being a crime family and he used his position and power to take bribes. Although we can debate whether or not the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, at the very least for anyone other than the president of the US it would have resulted in a trial.

4. He does not call for the death penalty, rather he says it might be on the table. That is if the allegations that Biden is involved in assisting the human trafficking of children for pedophiles. This has not been proven. The evidence is circumstantial, many of Biden's actions helped human trafficking to explode. But with the recent release of the Epstein Files tying Bill Clinton to Epstein island it is not unreasonable to suggest that a thorough and complete investigation of Joe Biden would turn up crimes punishable by death. There is also another insinuation of treason, that the 20 million let in during Biden's administration included military aged men who are here to overthrow the US. Two potential crimes that Biden may have been involved in, the killing of many children as a result of this child trafficking and treason, both of which could potentially carry a death penalty.

I would add that the context of this quote is during a campaign season in which Tim Walz, now accused of enabling $9 billion in fraud sent to Somalia was running for VP against Trump.

 

[ZNP]

1. To describe Joe Biden at that time as "bumbling" is a fair description.

2. To describe him as "dementia filled" has also been confirmed as being factual.

3. To say that Joe Biden should be imprisoned is also based on the evidence of his family being a crime family and he used his position and power to take bribes. Although we can debate whether or not the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt, at the very least for anyone other than the president of the US it would have resulted in a trial.

4. He does not call for the death penalty, rather he says it might be on the table. That is if the allegations that Biden is involved in assisting the human trafficking of children for pedophiles. This has not been proven. The evidence is circumstantial, many of Biden's actions helped human trafficking to explode. But with the recent release of the Epstein Files tying Bill Clinton to Epstein island it is not unreasonable to suggest that a thorough and complete investigation of Joe Biden would turn up crimes punishable by death. There is also another insinuation of treason, that the 20 million let in during Biden's administration included military aged men who are here to overthrow the US. Two potential crimes that Biden may have been involved in, the killing of many children as a result of this child trafficking and treason, both of which could potentially carry a death penalty.

I would add that the context of this quote is during a campaign season in which Tim Walz, now accused of enabling $9 billion in fraud sent to Somalia was running for VP against Trump.

I mention Tim Walz because you don't get picked for VP unless you have inside leverage. It may be that those who picked him for VP did not know the details of the $9 billion in fraud, but what is almost certain based on the way the world works, is that he used his fraud to gain inside leverage and so even if they didn't know the details they knew he was crooked as a dog's hind leg and yet they still chose him. Criminals choose criminals because of mutual assured destruction. They trust the criminal won't rat them out since they have enough dirt on him that they would both be destroyed.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Are there kids in this room.

 

[Solitude]

Are there kids in this room.

I'm not sure. What do you think?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I'm not sure. What do you think?

Never mind.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

It is our constitutional right to criticize any politician we choose and we should.
Those who tell lies will answer to God and that includes Trump who is noted for not always telling the whole truth,Trump may be the greatest politician in my lifetime, and I have not seen any evidence that he is a Christian.

Would it be closer to the truth to say he lies like the dEvil.

 

[gb9]

Would it be closer to the truth to say he lies like the dEvil.

news flash- all politicians lie. some more than others, but they all do it...

 

[Charlesiii]

As a Christian, and an American who loves his country and our leader, I am a bit torn. I think there should be some kind of punishment for the America haters that conspired to overturn the elections, but I feel Christian compassion too.

It was treason taken too far and too long. So many ordinary Americans did not realise this was a coup attempt (actually a successful coup, if 2020 is counted). If the right thing had been done 50 years ago, and traitors dealt with in the way traitors are supposed to be dealt with, including the death penalty if found guilty - the country would never have reached the state it got to.

They need to renounce Satan - that is, Biden, Harris, AOC, and the rest of the Democratic Party AND those pretending to be republicans that do not support them. Until such, and for the sake of their soul, they need to be locked up for life unless they make a sincere confession before a chaplain and psychologist.

Like many have stated, voting isn't treason. But I do agree that Biden, Harris, AOC, most if not all of those in the Democratic party (and also most in the Republican party) have committed treason.

And Trump (for perhaps legitimate reasons) does have his faults, such as supporting foreign genocidal regimes with American lives, military support and dollars. That needs to change, but I'm hoping he's working on it.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

It was treason taken too far and too long. So many ordinary Americans did not realise this was a coup attempt (actually a successful coup, if 2020 is counted). If the right thing had been done 50 years ago, and traitors dealt with in the way traitors are supposed to be dealt with, including the death penalty if found guilty - the country would never have reached the state it got to.

Like many have stated, voting isn't treason. But I do agree that Biden, Harris, AOC, most if not all of those in the Democratic party (and also most in the Republican party) have committed treason.

And Trump (for perhaps legitimate reasons) does have his faults, such as supporting foreign genocidal regimes with American lives, military support and dollars. That needs to change, but I'm hoping he's working on it.

So you don't think Trump committed treason when he said Obama wasn't an American, when he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii In the United States?

 

[ZNP]

In the US you are allowed to speak against Donald Trump, and since he is a public figure I don't think you can be charged with slander even if what you say is not accurate. That is not treason.

However to tell active service military men not to obey orders from the Commander in Chief, that is treason.

 

[Solitude]

 

[LoProfile]

I consider myself a Constitutional Conservative .... NV doesn't recognize the Constitution Party or a lot of other parties.
I did vote for Trump in three elections, that said, I'm definitely not a fan of him.
I'm less a fan of the Islam'ocrate Party of Satan

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I consider myself a Constitutional Conservative .... NV doesn't recognize the Constitution Party or a lot of other parties.
I did vote for Trump in three elections, that said, I'm definitely not a fan of him.
I'm less a fan of the Islam'ocrate Party of Satan

What about JD Vance, will you be voting for him after trump leaves?

 

[Texasgal]

I, at least, would be voting for a traditional, conservative Republican candidate. A true Republican from the heritage of Abraham Lincoln.