Are doctors and pharmaceutical workers exempted during Sabbath?

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JesusIsAll

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I was listening to a sermon about the great falling way. Many are going to come and say Jesus is Lord and lead people away from the truth. We MUST stay in truth because many come to steal kill and destroy serving the prince of lies.

It may be uncomfortable for some who are deceived to hear that they are but wouldn't you rather know the truth than follow a path that leads to destruction? ?.

To much focus is placed on trying to show who has the greatest bible knowledge or who is the best cut and paster. When every deceptive path leads us away from God's presence.

Blessed be the name of our Lord
The apostasy and new cults, which are, actually, just permutations of the old lies that supplant Christ with the man and his exclusive religious organization, have become a wildfire, circa 2014. The blindness to simple scripture teachings is just astounding, and anything to turn your eyes to somebody else, other than Jesus Christ and the teachings of He and His apostles of the Bible, the first century Christian church. None of the Johnny-come-lately "prophets" of these cults are anything but phony baloney.
 

Yahshua

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Like use a baseball bat next time to explain the truth of the Lord?
There are always two spirits doing battle when it comes to the word of God. One spirit is always confrontational; warring; hateful, spiteful, mocking, etc...and the other is the Holy Spirit, bearing its fruits: Love, Joy, Peace, Long-Suffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, Self-Control...regardless of the confrontation.

We can't help but bear the fruits of the particular spirit in each of us...whichever spirit that may be.

But God's word will only produce the fruits of his Holy Spirit.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Did I call anybody a fool, if you even understood the meaning of that admonition? But you're right. Words I used may be too mild.

If you ever actually get around to scripture, try reading Matthew 23
Amazing to me how they shudder over just a fraction of the same words in the Bible used to describe the false, even the milder ones. We all know it's about trying to suck people into cult beliefs and silence any opposition. They are always about controlling.

We are forever in this game and we are the ones who look like a pack of ravenous wolves. But we are not. For we are sheep in wolves clothing. I will for always be a stronghold for JESUS.

He didn't quit on me so I will never ever quit on Him.
 
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Angelique

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When are we going to get to a place when we say Lord you are enough..you are sufficient. . You are perfect and because you are im going to lay my life down for your truth alone? ? I wont get caught up in sqabbles and disputes that will do absolutely nothing to edify your body and frustrate the work of the spirit.

If we truly are His bride and He is the Word. .shouldn't we atleast make the effort to know Him fully?? Isnt this true intimacy between a bride and her groom
 
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JesusIsAll

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I wont get caught up in sqabbles and disputes that will do absolutely nothing to edify your body and frustrate the work of the spirit.
The work of the Holy Spirit is also to lead to truth, in Jesus Christ alone, and convict of sin. There is, unfortunately, much dirty work to that end. This is for those of the Spirit to have to engage, when there are those who are not in the Spirit, are rather of the spirit of error.
 

Yahshua

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While I agree with much of your thoughts and observations on medication, I will say that many of them do have discernable and necessary benefits.

That being said, I would say a strong majority of medications are intended to enslave someone to them for the purpose of financial profit for the system. And a strong majority of those medications are unnecessary when common sense living and health are accounted for.

Our family doesn't do vaccinations and immunizations, and we're all far healthier than those who do.
Of course, Matt. And by the way I appreciate your respectful reply. The over-arching issue of this world is that it is faithless and disobedient to God...so by necessity (to maintain a body subject to a cursed earth) such man-made "medications" are required, and temporarily beneficial. But my point was that such isn't *true healing* because (a) such medications must be maintained of the ailment returns and because (b) such - if taken other that exactly as directed - will, itself, kill a person.

This is to be compared with when Christ healed someone they were fully healed...or compared with when the tree of life will be restored on the new earth and yield fruit (and leaves) that will *truly* heal the nations. I'm sure there won't be instructions limiting how much of it one can eat or list a bunch of negative side-effects.
 
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Jesus said it is not evil to do good on the sabbath like when the Jews accused Jesus of working on the sabbath helping people,Jesus said if your animal fell in a hole would you not help it out of the hole on the sabbath.

Jesus also said that man was not made for the sabbath but the sabbath was made for the man which people are more important to help them on the sabbath than the physical rest of the sabbath.

But the truth is we do not have to follow a physical sabbath anymore because Jesus nailed it to His cross taking it out of the way and it is now a spiritual sabbath,rest,by the Holy Spirit.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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People who live by the Sabbath tread on egg shells.

Man their life must suck bad!!! No wonder the lost think that being a Christian is boring!
 

KohenMatt

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People who live by the Sabbath tread on egg shells.

Man their life must suck bad!!! No wonder the lost think that being a Christian is boring!
Personally, I have a great time on the Sabbath. Just as much, if not moreso than anyone does on their worship day of choice. I'm not trying to derail the OP, but just wanted to quickly address it.
 

LEPIDUS

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Yeah. He's probably due an apology, as he didn't say, anyway, he's proselytizing for the Seventh Day Adventists, and their false prophet Ellen G. White. Nobody should accuse him of being one of the sneaky ones, at this point. I'll be looking for him to rotate through deceptive messages in his closing, though.

Heaven forbid anybody would fail to be Christ-like, go around calling out sneaky cults, spreading heinous lies and error.

Lol there you go again bringing her up, ridiculously amusing, all that I read coming out of your mouth is bitterness, hate, malice and the list could go on. I have yet to come across a post from you or, your like minded posse, with a hint of edification, and whatever post that may seem edifying to the naked eye are just empty idle words.

I disregard any post you make, you speak vain idle words, really repulsive. The scripture you present is taken out of context and have no desire to know the truth but prefer to remain in a complacent state of deceit.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Personally, I have a great time on the Sabbath. Just as much, if not moreso than anyone does on their worship day of choice. I'm not trying to derail the OP, but just wanted to quickly address it.
So do I. When I can get around to it. If not I have a day of my own which is a day off from work. I don't well my Church doesn't call it the Sabbath Day per se. We just call it fellowship. But everyday is a kinda like a fellowship day for me. I particularly like dressing up for it because I want to look respectful for my GOD on Sunday or any other day or night where an important congregation meet is appointed.
 
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The work of the Holy Spirit is also to lead to truth, in Jesus Christ alone, and convict of sin. There is, unfortunately, much dirty work to that end. This is for those of the Spirit to have to engage, when there are those who are not in the Spirit, are rather of the spirit of error.
It is true, the Holy Spirit leads to truth, so does every word of scripture. If you eliminate every word of scripture except those words speaking of "Jesus Christ alone", you are not being led by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is of God, and God is one. Each aspect makes the whole, and one aspect of God is not God for God is one, God is whole.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Lol there you go again bringing her up, ridiculously amusing, all that I read coming out of your mouth is bitterness, hate, malice and the list could go on. I have yet to come across a post from you or, your like minded posse, with a hint of edification, and whatever post that may seem edifying to the naked eye are just empty idle words.

I disregard any post you make, you speak vain idle words, really repulsive. The scripture you present is taken out of context and have no desire to know the truth but prefer to remain in a complacent state of deceit.
You're funny. Did you spray spittle all over your monitor? Truth is infuriating to you, isn't it? A bit too much fang showing? I'll let you get back to doing your Jew-lite, modern day Pharisee song and dance. LOL!

Oh! Thank you, and praise the Lord Jesus!
 

LEPIDUS

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You're funny. Did you spray spittle all over your monitor? Truth is infuriating to you, isn't it? A bit too much fang showing? I'll let you get back to doing your Jew-lite, modern day Pharisee song and dance. LOL!

Oh! Thank you, and praise the Lord Jesus!
Lol no end to your idle words. Actually, the truth is what led me to believe in keeping the Sabbath. I have no problem it putting pride aside to accept truth, and that is what people cannot accept, they hate to admit they are being deceived.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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So a person must observe the Saturday Sabbath in order to be saved.

Where is the truth in that?

Ellen G White was a false prophet.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Lol no end to your idle words. Actually, the truth is what led me to believe in keeping the Sabbath. I have no problem it putting pride aside to accept truth, and that is what people cannot accept, they hate to admit they are being deceived.
No problem. You can suck Ellen G. White's kneecaps until you're blue in the face. But someday you guys need to get over the fact many others don't want the false prophet's disease. Capisce? By the way, you're a perfect example of Christ-like being translated "agrees with me, lest I go into an apoplectic rage." Let me know if you need an exorcist. By the way, can the exorcist work Saturdays?

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 2 Peter 1:16

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:10-11
 
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So a person must observe the Saturday Sabbath in order to be saved.

Where is the truth in that?

Ellen G White was a false prophet.
I don't think the road to salvation is by denying that God created a Sabbath. Faith is in through believing His word. You have stated that you do not believe that God created a day that is special, yet that you believe in Jesus. You can't have it both ways.
 

LEPIDUS

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No problem. You can suck Ellen G. White's kneecaps until you're blue in the face. But someday you guys need to get over the fact many others don't want the false prophet's disease. Capisce? By the way, you're a perfect example of Christ-like being translated "agrees with me, lest I go into an apoplectic rage." Let me know if you need an exorcist. By the way, can the exorcist work Saturdays?

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 2 Peter 1:16

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:10-11
Hahaha wow you just proved me correct again and you're taking those verses out of context, I should be using them on you.
 
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JesusIsAll

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I don't think the road to salvation is by denying that God created a Sabbath. Faith is in through believing His word. You have stated that you do not believe that God created a day that is special, yet that you believe in Jesus. You can't have it both ways.
A pure refutation and apostasy of New Testament Christianity.

Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.

Galatians 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Romans 7:4-6 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Colossians 2:16-17 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Romans 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.