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No problem. You can suck Ellen G. White's kneecaps until you're blue in the face. But someday you guys need to get over the fact many others don't want the false prophet's disease. Capisce? By the way, you're a perfect example of Christ-like being translated "agrees with me, lest I go into an apoplectic rage." Let me know if you need an exorcist. By the way, can the exorcist work Saturdays?

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3-4

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 2 Peter 1:16

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Peter 2:1-3

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. 2 John 1:10-11
I was reading the notes made by an exorcist as he spoke with a demon in Christ's name. The demon used the same kind of words you are using, the same reasoning. This exorcist said Christians can only confront them through Christ, it is only Christ who has dominion of them. I rebuke your words that are demon like in the name of my Savior, Jesus Christ!
 
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I was reading the notes made by an exorcist as he spoke with a demon in Christ's name. The demon used the same kind of words you are using, the same reasoning. This exorcist said Christians can only confront them through Christ, it is only Christ who has dominion of them. I rebuke your words that are demon like in the name of my Savior, Jesus Christ!
So, you need an exorcist that doesn't work Saturdays, also? Better let me know now. He's getting booked-up.
 
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So, you need an exorcist that doesn't work Saturdays, also? Better let me know now. He's getting booked-up.
And what does your saying I have a demon have to do with your using the same kind of language in your posts that demons use?
 
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Oh my word. ... how is this glorify God??
 

blue_ladybug

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Oh my word. ... how is this glorify God??
That's exactly what I'm wondering, too!! Calling each other demon-possessed? Really? Yet another thread derailed due to bickering back and forth, and name-calling. smh jmo.. just sayin'... :/
 
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And what does your saying I have a demon have to do with your using the same kind of language in your posts that demons use?
Just a spawn of Satan, RedTent. Lock up your Torah. I'm coming after it!
 
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I will boast of nothingbut Christ and Him crucified. I have nothing to offer the world.. no words that will change the world but the word of God that brings life to the dead and freedom to the captive. I worship nothing but God. So you can say what ever about me because I am dead and now the life I live is in Christ Jesus. I take up the cross daily..and crucify my flesh in order that christ maybe glorified in spirit and in truth. This is my prayer for all of you too. How can you feel insulted by truth if your flesh is dead.

Bless you all in Jesus name.
 
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Question: "Does God require Sabbath-keeping of Christians?"

Answer:
In Colossians 2:16-17, the apostle Paul declares, “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.” Similarly, Romans 14:5 states, “One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.” These Scriptures make it clear that, for the Christian, Sabbath-keeping is a matter of spiritual freedom, not a command from God. Sabbath-keeping is an issue on which God’s Word instructs us not to judge each other. Sabbath-keeping is a matter about which each Christian needs to be fully convinced in his/her own mind.

In the early chapters of the book of Acts, the first Christians were predominantly Jews. When Gentiles began to receive the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ, the Jewish Christians had a dilemma. What aspects of the Mosaic Law and Jewish tradition should Gentile Christians be instructed to obey? The apostles met and discussed the issue in the Jerusalem council (Acts 15). The decision was, “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood” (Acts 15:19-20). Sabbath-keeping was not one of the commands the apostles felt was necessary to force on Gentile believers. It is inconceivable that the apostles would neglect to include Sabbath-keeping if it was God’s command for Christians to observe the Sabbath day.

A common error in the Sabbath-keeping debate is the concept that the Sabbath was the day of worship. Groups such as the Seventh Day Adventists hold that God requires the church service to be held on Saturday, the Sabbath day. That is not what the Sabbath command was. The Sabbath command was to do no work on the Sabbath day (Exodus 20:8-11). Nowhere in Scripture is the Sabbath day commanded to be the day of worship. Yes, Jews in Old Testament, New Testament, and modern times use Saturday as the day of worship, but that is not the essence of the Sabbath command. In the book of Acts, whenever a meeting is said to be on the Sabbath, it is a meeting of Jews and/or Gentile converts to Judaism, not Christians.

When did the early Christians meet? Acts 2:46-47 gives us the answer, “Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” If there was a day that Christians met regularly, it was the first day of the week (our Sunday), not the Sabbath day (our Saturday) (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). In honor of Christ’s resurrection on Sunday, the early Christians observed Sunday not as the “Christian Sabbath” but as a day to especially worship Jesus Christ.

Is there anything wrong with worshipping on Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath? Absolutely not! We should worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday! Many churches today have both Saturday and Sunday services. There is freedom in Christ (Romans 8:21; 2 Corinthians 3:17; Galatians 5:1). Should a Christian practice Sabbath-keeping, that is, not working on Saturdays? If a Christian feels led to do so, absolutely, yes (Romans 14:5). However, those who choose to practice Sabbath-keeping should not judge those who do not keep the Sabbath (Colossians 2:16). Further, those who do not keep the Sabbath should avoid being a stumbling block (1 Corinthians 8:9) to those who do keep the Sabbath. Galatians 5:13-15 sums up the whole issue: “You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. The entire law is summed up in a single command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.”

Recommended Resources: The End of the Law: Mosaic Covenant in Pauline Theology by Jason Meyer and Logos Bible Software.

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That's exactly what I'm wondering, too!! Calling each other demon-possessed? Really? Yet another thread derailed due to bickering back and forth, and name-calling. smh jmo.. just sayin'... :/
Wow! I really am trying to get across not to use that kind of language on another, and "calling another demon possessed" makes it sound like my saying that is how demons talk is doing that. If we ignore, people new to the Lord listen to bad language against another, that hurts, also. So I hurt instead of helping!!

OK. All together. Lets send enough love that only love as Christ has it is expressed!!
 

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Wow! I really am trying to get across not to use that kind of language on another, and "calling another demon possessed" makes it sound like my saying that is how demons talk is doing that. If we ignore, people new to the Lord listen to bad language against another, that hurts, also. So I hurt instead of helping!!

OK. All together. Lets send enough love that only love as Christ has it is expressed!!

​AMEN!!! :)
 
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I wonder how many of you, if asked by your boss, to work on Sunday, would reject and say no. I wonder how many of you that got up on Sabbath morning and your car battery was dead, would not work to fix it. You will also note that is unlawful to start a fire on the Sabbath. What do you think your car engine is? Then further more after Church, you go to a place to eat where people are working, Meaning that you support and advocate working on the Sabbath.

When will we realize that the Jesus is our Sabbath, with out Him there is no rest as we are slaves to sin. This is nothing but flesh. It's what I do and no different than worshiping a statue.
 
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Wow! I really am trying to get across not to use that kind of language on another, and "calling another demon possessed" makes it sound like my saying that is how demons talk is doing that. If we ignore, people new to the Lord listen to bad language against another, that hurts, also. So I hurt instead of helping!!

OK. All together. Lets send enough love that only love as Christ has it is expressed!!
Really? RedTent,

"I was reading the notes made by an exorcist as he spoke with a demon in Christ's name. The demon used the same kind of words you are using, the same reasoning. This exorcist said Christians can only confront them through Christ, it is only Christ who has dominion of them. I rebuke your words that are demon like in the name of my Savior, Jesus Christ!"

And I posted a lot of scripture that proves the true gospel of Jesus Christ. By the way, when do you post the word of God to back your claims? Is all you do is to push the Torah by some vague reference, in condemnation of all others, and venomously attack truth? Call people devils who disagree with you, for clear scriptural reasons?

Look in the mirror and the darkness of your heart, first, in your hunt for some bogeyman.
 
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The real Sabbath day is the day that Jesus returns. That when the Father rest.
 
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The work of the Holy Spirit is also to lead to truth, in Jesus Christ alone, and convict of sin. There is, unfortunately, much dirty work to that end. This is for those of the Spirit to have to engage, when there are those who are not in the Spirit, are rather of the spirit of error.
What is this sin that the Holy Ghost convicts of?

1 John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law."

Which law broken identifies sin?

Romans 7:7 "What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."

Paul knew what sin was when he saw that the law said "Thou shalt not covet". Which law contains that exact command?

Exodus 20:17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."

Conclusion. The Holy Ghost convicts us of breaking the Ten Commandments.

Isaiah 28:9-10 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:"

Tell me, is comparing Scripture precept upon precept and line upon line a cult too?

Once you remove the law, you take away the means to identify sin. That is a dangerous position to be in.

God Bless
 
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The law was broken the day it was wrote.
 
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Matthew 12:24-32 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
 
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Jesus is the Sabbath.
 
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I wonder how many of you, if asked by your boss, to work on Sunday, would reject and say no. I wonder how many of you that got up on Sabbath morning and your car battery was dead, would not work to fix it. You will also note that is unlawful to start a fire on the Sabbath. What do you think your car engine is? Then further more after Church, you go to a place to eat where people are working, Meaning that you support and advocate working on the Sabbath.

When will we realize that the Jesus is our Sabbath, with out Him there is no rest as we are slaves to sin. This is nothing but flesh. It's what I do and no different than worshiping a statue.
If you died to self and put on Christ, then you think of these things as Christ thought of them. If you had children dependent on you and your job to feed them and you had a choice between them being hungry or your working on Saturday, what do you think Jesus would have you do? If you could get a fine job not requiring you to work on the day you choose for Sabbath and you just plain didn't want to take that job what do you think Christ would have you do? Do you think that Christ would tell you exactly what to do to honor the Sabbath so if you didn't follow by the letter, what do you think Christ would say? If you told Christ that you didn't give a hang what His Father said, you would do as you want and not listen to a mean old dictatorial Father creator, how do you think Christ would respond? Remember, Christ would be looking at your heart as well as know how you act.