Are doctors and pharmaceutical workers exempted during Sabbath?

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TheClimaxWarrior

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I have read through the Gospels many times, and I never heard Christ say that He was the Sabbath. Strange.

God Bless
It is only strange to you and others like you because your heart has been sealed from the truth. Again, such an invalid post by yourself.

That's kind of saying...the word Trinity is not in the Bible. But we know the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are evident in the Bible.

That's kind of saying...that Salvation is not a free gift from GOD but we know it is free gift from GOD because He sent His only begotten Son.

You know what is strange. How you pass yourself as being a scholar, yet you miss the full picture. Actually, I don't find it strange I know your seal is not broken. Should work on it.

Bless GOD
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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#82
I don't think the road to salvation is by denying that God created a Sabbath. Faith is in through believing His word. You have stated that you do not believe that God created a day that is special, yet that you believe in Jesus. You can't have it both ways.
What in high heavens? In the beginning there was no sabbath day. Adam did not need to keep any sabbath day at all. My goodness me. Don't you know anything about the Bible at all.

At least your right about something. I can't have it both ways because there is no two ways about it. I don't need to keep the sabbath day because I'm not a JEW!!! or LDS, SDA, COC whose head are still in the sand.
 

LEPIDUS

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#83
Actually the problem is all these man made doctrines that contradict Christ doctrine.

That's why you make idle comments, such as this one.

Colossians 2:22-23 KJV

Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men? Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

It is only strange to you and others like you because your heart has been sealed from the truth. Again, such an invalid post by yourself.

That's kind of saying...the word Trinity is not in the Bible. But we know the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are evident in the Bible.

That's kind of saying...that Salvation is not a free gift from GOD but we strange. How you pass yourself as being a scholar, yet you miss the full picture. Actually, I don't find it strange I know your seal is not broken. Should work on it.

Bless GOD
 

LEPIDUS

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What in high heavens? In the beginning there was no sabbath day. Adam did not need to keep any sabbath day at all. My goodness me. Don't you know anything about the Bible at all.

At least your right about something. I can't have it both ways because there is no two ways about it. I don't need to keep the sabbath day because I'm not a JEW!!! or LDS, SDA, COC whose head are still in the sand.
Go read Genesis.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Obviously you don't understand nor read the Book of Genesis properly...lol...you're really quite funny!
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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bahahahaha...I can't believe you says to read the Book of Genesis what for to see if there is a Sabbath Day granted? In black and white, GOD does not command anything to Adam that he must keep a sabbath day as Adam was forever in GOD. There is no gray neither.

My goodness me, someone needs proper Theology...lol
 

Angela53510

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Interesting how the OP has only posted the original post, and never come back. Here are my theories!

1. Got scared away by the ranting

2. Was a troll, hoping to start yet ANOTHER argument on the same topic which has been covered it what seems like an infinite number of times.

3. Is a resident, hoping to find an excuse to miss on-call shifts on Saturday?? Or Sunday??

No, we are not living in the 1900's or earlier, where it was forbidden to do anything on Sunday or Orthodox Jews who literally cannot make food on the Sabbath. We are Christians. If you don't want to work on your chosen day, I would suggest you don't get sick on your chosen day of rest, expecting the doctors will be there for you.

On Aug. 17, a Sunday (my day of rest!) I was out relaxingly riding my bicycle and fell into a ditch, not just breaking but displacing my wrist. I can only be thankful the doctors were working in the ER, and were able to put me under and put the wrist back together, as well as casting it.

I'm not posting any verses, because this topic has been covered to death!

As far as drugs, I owe my life many times over to modern medicine, from anti-biotics to childbirth to asthma and auto-immune diseases. One thing I know for sure, is that God wants me on biologics for my RA, asthma drugs for my asthma, Synthroid for my thyroid, etc, etc! I would be bed ridden, instead of active, volunteering and helping in my church and community in a variety of ways. Don't even get me started on the Health and Wealth Heresy!

I just also hope those thinking pharmaceuticals are of the devil never get sick! I was healthy as a horse, till auto-immune diseases struck me down. I am grateful for doctors, medicines and hospitals every day of my life! And to God for having me be born in a time when modern medicine is available!
 

LEPIDUS

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Obviously you don't understand nor read the Book of Genesis properly...lol...you're really quite funny!
Please enlighten me as to how I'm suppose to read it, you obviously missed the part where God made a seventh day sanctified it and made it holy because that in it he rested.
 

LEPIDUS

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bahahahaha...I can't believe you says to read the Book of Genesis what for to see if there is a Sabbath Day granted? In black and white, GOD does not command anything to Adam that he must keep a sabbath day as Adam was forever in GOD. There is no gray neither.

My goodness me, someone needs proper Theology...lol
Yes many of you claim to have "proper theology" lol that in itself is hilarious.

Anyway, no point in continuing this discussion, going to sleep well assured that I have placed my faith in Christ. :)
 
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Theclimaxwarrior: Gen 2:2 By the seventh day God completed His work that He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work that He had done. Gen 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, for on it He rested from His work of creation

Some say these verses are in scripture, you say it isn't. What is more your response to this scripture is "hahaha" "I can't believe you. " "you obviously missed" "God demanded nothing of Adam" (which is right, God gave all of us free will) "You need proper theology" "you don't understand the bible".

It is such a violent reaction to a scripture passage.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Please enlighten me as to how I'm suppose to read it, you obviously missed the part where God made a seventh day sanctified it and made it holy because that in it he rested.
WOW...Look at you, can't even read the heart of the Bible. lol...you're really quite funny! You've just answered your own question, 'he' rested. That's right GOD rested where does it say Adam had to rest because GOD rested it doesn't does it...duh! Adam didn't need to keep any day sanctified because he was not commanded to as Adam was in rest with GOD every second of his entire being.


Yes many of you claim to have "proper theology" lol that in itself is hilarious.

Anyway, no point in continuing this discussion, going to sleep well assured that I have placed my faith in Christ. :)
Yes! I do claim to have proper Theology something you don't Leperdus! lol that in itself is tremendously hilarious just don't put your crappy ideals on new borns because it isn't warranted for any Christian to keep a sabbath day otherwise it is known as a traditional work of works mate!

I do because it is the only day I get to listen to the leader of the Church and his sermon on Sundays. You live your life in works while I live my mine not having to be forced by works such as people like yourself.

;) :) :D :p :eek: :cool: :rolleyes:
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Theclimaxwarrior: Gen 2:2 By the seventh day God completed His work that He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work that He had done. Gen 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, for on it He rested from His work of creation

Some say these verses are in scripture, you say it isn't. What is more your response to this scripture is "hahaha" "I can't believe you. " "you obviously missed" "God demanded nothing of Adam" (which is right, God gave all of us free will) "You need proper theology" "you don't understand the bible".

It is such a violent reaction to a scripture passage.
Read my previous post.

'It is such a violent reaction to a scripture passage'. Cry me a river or cry to admin of CC.

I speak my mind. I speak the truth. Deal with it coz I ain't going no where!

WOW...such a violent reaction to a post that does speaks truth.

Oh well...I keep on saying it, 'Ignorance is very contagious. It's like a million times worse than the Ebola'.
 
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Interesting how the OP has only posted the original post, and never come back. Here are my theories!

1. Got scared away by the ranting

2. Was a troll, hoping to start yet ANOTHER argument on the same topic which has been covered it what seems like an infinite number of times.

3. Is a resident, hoping to find an excuse to miss on-call shifts on Saturday?? Or Sunday??

No, we are not living in the 1900's or earlier, where it was forbidden to do anything on Sunday or Orthodox Jews who literally cannot make food on the Sabbath. We are Christians. If you don't want to work on your chosen day, I would suggest you don't get sick on your chosen day of rest, expecting the doctors will be there for you.

On Aug. 17, a Sunday (my day of rest!) I was out relaxingly riding my bicycle and fell into a ditch, not just breaking but displacing my wrist. I can only be thankful the doctors were working in the ER, and were able to put me under and put the wrist back together, as well as casting it.

I'm not posting any verses, because this topic has been covered to death!

As far as drugs, I owe my life many times over to modern medicine, from anti-biotics to childbirth to asthma and auto-immune diseases. One thing I know for sure, is that God wants me on biologics for my RA, asthma drugs for my asthma, Synthroid for my thyroid, etc, etc! I would be bed ridden, instead of active, volunteering and helping in my church and community in a variety of ways. Don't even get me started on the Health and Wealth Heresy!

I just also hope those thinking pharmaceuticals are of the devil never get sick! I was healthy as a horse, till auto-immune diseases struck me down. I am grateful for doctors, medicines and hospitals every day of my life! And to God for having me be born in a time when modern medicine is available!
What we are doing is deciding what Christ would say about doctors and druggist working on a day someone chooses for a Sabbath. Christ told us exactly how God feels about it. We are to honor the Sabbath, and included in that honor is care for our fellow human beings. What people think really doesn't change how the day is special, God decides. The day is holy, we are to treat it as a special holy day.

If something someone did harms another person then it wouldn't be honoring the holiness of that specially blessed day, would it? If doctors and druggist refused to help someone it would harm them. God wants it treated as a specially blessed day, if we ignore that it is special it would not honor it.

There is a difference we are to know about the letter of the law and the spirit and truth of the law. If fact, we are not to follow any of it as something you go to jail for breaking. The word is Torah they translate as law. The Holy Spirit leads us to obedience in love.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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What we are doing is deciding what Christ would say about doctors and druggist working on a day someone chooses for a Sabbath. Christ told us exactly how God feels about it. We are to honor the Sabbath, and included in that honor is care for our fellow human beings. What people think really doesn't change how the day is special, God decides. The day is holy, we are to treat it as a special holy day.

If something someone did harms another person then it wouldn't be honoring the holiness of that specially blessed day, would it? If doctors and druggist refused to help someone it would harm them. God wants it treated as a specially blessed day, if we ignore that it is special it would not honor it.

There is a difference we are to know about the letter of the law and the spirit and truth of the law. If fact, we are not to follow any of it as something you go to jail for breaking. The word is Torah they translate as law. The Holy Spirit leads us to obedience in love.
Oh my gosh! Now I have nose bleeds!
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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Interesting how the OP has only posted the original post, and never come back. Here are my theories!

1. Got scared away by the ranting

2. Was a troll, hoping to start yet ANOTHER argument on the same topic which has been covered it what seems like an infinite number of times.

3. Is a resident, hoping to find an excuse to miss on-call shifts on Saturday?? Or Sunday??

No, we are not living in the 1900's or earlier, where it was forbidden to do anything on Sunday or Orthodox Jews who literally cannot make food on the Sabbath. We are Christians. If you don't want to work on your chosen day, I would suggest you don't get sick on your chosen day of rest, expecting the doctors will be there for you.

On Aug. 17, a Sunday (my day of rest!) I was out relaxingly riding my bicycle and fell into a ditch, not just breaking but displacing my wrist. I can only be thankful the doctors were working in the ER, and were able to put me under and put the wrist back together, as well as casting it.

I'm not posting any verses, because this topic has been covered to death!

As far as drugs, I owe my life many times over to modern medicine, from anti-biotics to childbirth to asthma and auto-immune diseases. One thing I know for sure, is that God wants me on biologics for my RA, asthma drugs for my asthma, Synthroid for my thyroid, etc, etc! I would be bed ridden, instead of active, volunteering and helping in my church and community in a variety of ways. Don't even get me started on the Health and Wealth Heresy!

I just also hope those thinking pharmaceuticals are of the devil never get sick! I was healthy as a horse, till auto-immune diseases struck me down. I am grateful for doctors, medicines and hospitals every day of my life! And to God for having me be born in a time when modern medicine is available!
BY THE WAY GREAT POST! FULL OF RICHNESS AND TRUTH!
 
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Angelique

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#96
Hands climax warrior a tissue.
 
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TheClimaxWarrior

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#97
Thanks. As I refuse to see a Dr about it.
 

Nautilus

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Well a few bits of information must be understood before this question can be properly answered.

1st, did you know that the Greek word for "sorcery" - in the bible - is "pharmakeia" (and this is New Testament writings). It's where we get our word pharmaceuticals. Christ didn't heal with "sorcery" (i.e. drugs) but with faith in the power of God.

2nd, Priests are allowed to work on the Sabbath, and more than "allowed", Priests are *expected* to work serving God's people on the Sabbath (just like today's church shepherds work to serve their congregations on Sunday).

3rd, those who believe in Christ are of the order of Melchizedek. In other words, believers of Christ *are now* priests of God, commanded to REMEMBER the Sabbath, which means either resting on the day or doing good to others. In other words the focus must be on God and his kingdom and not on self.

So if we consider all of this information, we can answer your questions...

1. Are doctors allowed to work on Sabbath?

Assuming they're believers in Christ; If their focus is on maintaining their income, job or career; no, they're in the wrong. If their focus is to spread the kingdom of God (i.e. restorations...healing); yes, especially if they worked for free as an offering to God on that day.


since medicine are used for healing...
2. Are pharmaceutical workers doing good if they work to produce medicinal drugs on Sabbath?

No. The production of drugs is considered sorcery. Also the production of pharmaceuticals is specifically "for profit" and not for the healing of people (giving drugs away freely isn't good for business...nor is truly healing people good for business).

Have you ever noticed that there's a serpent coiling a staff as the symbol of this world's version of healing, who's "medicine" doesn't really heal? Now that imagery comes from what God commanded Moses to make for the people in Numbers 21, but today's "medicines" are another lie from that old Serpent.

At best these drugs mitigate symptoms and don't cure any illness or disease (because you have to keep taking them or the illness or disease returns). At worse, these drugs are made to specifically *kill* something in the body (which is why if these drugs are taken other than how they were specifically directed they can cause death).

ALL of them cause other negative "side-effects" (i.e. "diseases") that must then be controlled by more drugs, and it just spirals into more and more bondage...completely contrary of God's Kingdom, the gospel of freedom. Something that truly "heals" doesn't kill or have an overdose limit where you've taken too much.
Well I knew the crazy opinions would show, just didnt think it would be on page one...
 
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Kaycie

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#99
I'm more interested in where you found pharmaceutical workers that are over 2,000 years old!




(we are no longer under the old covenant, including the sabbath)
 

birdie

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Sabbath is a picture of how God does all of the work to save a true believer and the true believer does not do a single bit of work to save himself because he can't save himself. God can by Jesus doing the work at the cross. It doesn't matter for any true believer whether you do this or that ritual on Saturday or Sunday because that is not what the Sabbath points to. The Sabbath is not something you keep by attending a group or denomination on a particular day. It is something you keep by simply being saved by God.