Are Roman Catholics Christians

[eternally-gratefull]

Yes antichrist is a lot, not only one. But seem to me one of them will rule the word, base on rev 13.

Yes this antichrist will denies Jesus and pope is not denies Jesus now.
But pope promote one world religions. By the time he succeeds, I believe he denie Jesus

Can you unite all religions without denies Jesus?

Non of that proves it is the pope, thank you

 

[Jackson123]

Non of that proves it is the pope, thank you

Don't you think there Isn't any connection between pope promote one world religion and one world government with him being candidate antichrist?

 

[Seedz]

1. Mark used jewish time (jesus was crucified at 9: am)
2. John states jesus was tried at 6th hour (roman time, ie 6 am) he was crucified after this, most likely 9 am

mmmm NO.... In most all footnotes established by scholars the times are set straight. The third hour corresponds to 9am in Mark..

In John, it mentions the 6th hour, also the footnotes set the record straight and show that it was Noon. 9am and noon are totally different times and are not even close, that is at least 3 hours of difference. You are assuming a lot and your assumptions are blatantly erroneous. So yeah, you are straight up wrong about this.

1. Passover was friday, preparation day was the day before the sabbath, which was Friday.

Wrong.... Again. In Mark 14 we can read about the Passover with the disciples. Jesus ate and enjoyed the Passover meal with the disciples on the actual day of the Passover. In Chapter 14 in Mark we clearly see the disciples going out to gather and prepare for the meal on the actual preparation day which is said to have been the crucifixion day in John 19:14.

See also mark 15: 42 (NKJV): Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath

This is the preparation for the sabbath, not the Passover, in John it clearly states the preparation day for the PASSOVER, not sabbath.

along with john 19: 31 (NKJV): Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

wrong preparation day friend.... there are preparation days for both sabbath and Passover, both different and separate.

And you see both accounts have him crucified the day before saturday on preperation day.
1. Mark used jewish time (jesus was crucified at 9: am)
2. John states jesus was tried at 6th hour (roman time, ie 6 am) he was crucified after this, most likely 9 am

Wrong again... I already addressed your skewed and false explanation for the times above.
Jesus could not have been crucified on the preparation day at the 6th hour in john 19:14 because he had the Passover meal with the disciples in mark 14 and later crucified in mark 15, which shows us the discrepancy in time and day.. (3rd hour on Passover day, not preparation of Passover [mark 15:25])

1. Passover was friday, preparation day was the day before the sabbath, which was Friday.

See also mark 15: 42 (NKJV): Now when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath

along with john 19: 31 (NKJV): Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day), the Jews asked Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

And you see both accounts have him crucified the day before saturday on preperation day.

Again, you are confusing the preparation for the sabbath, and the preparation day for passover, two different separate days..... Look into it carefully if you don't believe me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Don't you think there Isn't any connection between pope promote one world religion and one world government with him being candidate antichrist?

Nope,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

mmmm NO.... In most all footnotes established by scholars the times are set straight. The third hour corresponds to 9am in Mark..

In John, it mentions the 6th hour, also the footnotes set the record straight and show that it was Noon. 9am and noon are totally different times and are not even close, that is at least 3 hours of difference. You are assuming a lot and your assumptions are blatantly erroneous. So yeah, you are straight up wrong about this.



Wrong.... Again. In Mark 14 we can read about the Passover with the disciples. Jesus ate and enjoyed the Passover meal with the disciples on the actual day of the Passover. In Chapter 14 in Mark we clearly see the disciples going out to gather and prepare for the meal on the actual preparation day which is said to have been the crucifixion day in John 19:14.



This is the preparation for the sabbath, not the Passover, in John it clearly states the preparation day for the PASSOVER, not sabbath.



wrong preparation day friend.... there are preparation days for both sabbath and Passover, both different and separate.



Wrong again... I already addressed your skewed and false explanation for the times above.
Jesus could not have been crucified on the preparation day at the 6th hour in john 19:14 because he had the Passover meal with the disciples in mark 14 and later crucified in mark 15, which shows us the discrepancy in time and day.. (3rd hour on Passover day, not preparation of Passover [mark 15:25])




Again, you are confusing the preparation for the sabbath, and the preparation day for passover, two different separate days..... Look into it carefully if you don't believe me.

1. it seems obvious you did not read what i sad, you made a few mistakes in your assumptions of what i said.
2. i do not get my theology from majority rules, i have found in most cases, majority is wrong
3. It seems you want to destroy the bible, for whatever reason, thus no matter what anyone says you will not listen
Good day..

 

[Seedz]

1. it seems obvious you did not read what i sad, you made a few mistakes in your assumptions of what i said.
2. i do not get my theology from majority rules, i have found in most cases, majority is wrong
3. It seems you want to destroy the bible, for whatever reason, thus no matter what anyone says you will not listen
Good day..

Is that all you have to say? I am just sharing what is readily available in the bible and making a direct comparison of the gospels shows this, it is there for all to see.

Fortunately for Christianity most won't read into the details.

 

[Seedz]

1. it seems obvious you did not read what i sad, you made a few mistakes in your assumptions of what i said.
2. i do not get my theology from majority rules, i have found in most cases, majority is wrong
3. It seems you want to destroy the bible, for whatever reason, thus no matter what anyone says you will not listen
Good day..

The bible is not error or discrepancy free like I was brainwashed to believe.

This is not the only instance where something like this happens.

The problem is that people are willfully ignorant.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Is that all you have to say? I am just sharing what is readily available in the bible and making a direct comparison of the gospels shows this, it is there for all to see.

Fortunately for Christianity most won't read into the details.

I read many commentaries, i studied, so please do not sit there and attack me, i did read the details and i gave my opinion,

If you do not agree, thats one thing, but your attacks are uncalled for,

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The bible is not error or discrepancy free like I was brainwashed to believe.

This is not the only instance where something like this happens.

The problem is that people are willfully ignorant.

Well you did not even prove this was an error, all you did was give opinion,

And your ignorant remark is just prideful man,

If you have no desire to discuss openly why are you here? You think your gonna change all us christians?

Think again. Your not the first to try, you wont be the last

Again, good day

 

[notuptome]

The bible is not error or discrepancy free like I was brainwashed to believe.

This is not the only instance where something like this happens.

The problem is that people are willfully ignorant.

God said that it is the foolish things that will confound the wise. The foolishness of preaching is to those who are saved the wisdom of God.

1 Cor 1:18, 1 Cor 1:21, 1 Cor 1:27

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Seedz]

Well you did not even prove this was an error, all you did was give opinion,

And your ignorant remark is just prideful man,

If you have no desire to discuss openly why are you here? You think your gonna change all us christians?

Think again. Your not the first to try, you wont be the last

Again, good day

I proved a discrepancy. One amongst many.

Growing up I was told that the Bible did not have any of these issues, hence why it was divine and to be trusted.

What does it mean when that is later proven to be false, and that the Bible does have certain things that point toward human inefficiency within the text alone, not to mention individual interpretations?

Ironically this is not why I'm losing my faith. That's another story for another day, but if you are passionate about Christianity, I recommend you research as much as you can about it in a non bias way.

Lying to people about the reason why the word is divine is something that only works on the ignorant.

 

[Seedz]

I read many commentaries, i studied, so please do not sit there and attack me, i did read the details and i gave my opinion,

If you do not agree, thats one thing, but your attacks are uncalled for,

I apologize, my intent was not to offend or attack. Again I offer my sincere apologies.

 

[Seedz]

God said that it is the foolish things that will confound the wise. The foolishness of preaching is to those who are saved the wisdom of God.

1 Cor 1:18, 1 Cor 1:21, 1 Cor 1:27

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Very broad statement.... I can also say that most rich people won't make it to heaven too right? Oh wait, no. People like money, including Christians.

Funny how it works.

 

[Jackson123]

Nope,

So you did know that

1. antichrist is to create one world government

2. Pope promote one world government

But you don't believe there is correlation between pope and antichrist. Am I right?

 

[Seedz]

So you did know that

1. antichrist is to create one world government

2. Pope promote one world government

But you don't believe there is correlation between pope and antichrist. Am I right?

Dude it's not just the pope that "promotes" NWO, OWG.

Your problems are much bigger. The very same internet you use to connect here was developed by CERN.

Have you seen what they've been up to lately?

Hahaha....

 

[Jackson123]

Dude it's not just the pope that "promotes" NWO, OWG.

Your problems are much bigger. The very same internet you use to connect here was developed by CERN.

Have you seen what they've been up to lately?

Hahaha....

You say not only pope that promote NWO, is that mean Pope involve?

 

[Seedz]

You say not only pope that promote NWO, is that mean Pope involve?

Basically they are all involved. By "they all" I mean all of the mainstream leaders and corporations.

The NWO is not exactly what you think it is.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I proved a discrepancy. One amongst many.

Growing up I was told that the Bible did not have any of these issues, hence why it was divine and to be trusted.

What does it mean when that is later proven to be false, and that the Bible does have certain things that point toward human inefficiency within the text alone, not to mention individual interpretations?

Ironically this is not why I'm losing my faith. That's another story for another day, but if you are passionate about Christianity, I recommend you research as much as you can about it in a non bias way.

Lying to people about the reason why the word is divine is something that only works on the ignorant.

I showed a reasonable explanation, so not you did not prove a discrepency. And as i said, i did look, with an open mind, thats also why it took so long to answer your origional question. and I found a reasonable explanation,

And now you call me a liar, way to go my friend.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I apologize, my intent was not to offend or attack. Again I offer my sincere apologies.

Forgiven

 

[eternally-gratefull]

So you did know that

1. antichrist is to create one world government

2. Pope promote one world government

But you don't believe there is correlation between pope and antichrist. Am I right?

Non of that proves anything.
But your dead set that the pope is, so i can not change your mind.