Are Sins Timeless?

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Kafziel

Kafziel

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I would define sins as things that invoke the wrath of God. Sodomy for example, with the advent of condoms and anti-biotics is it still really a sin? I mean we no longer die of infection, the wages of sin in this case are not death. So is it really still a sin?
 
Baal worship involves worshipping, i.e. adoring; loving; etc., death and the things relating to death, and this includes waste, as in caca. And in the case of sodomy, which involves the orifice the expresses the most toxic of wastes any creature produces, human waste, it will be judge in accordance with Baal worship if it's practice persists indefinitely.
 
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Baal worship involves worshipping, i.e. adoring; loving; etc., death and the things relating to death, and this includes waste, as in caca. And in the case of sodomy, which involves the orifice the expresses the most toxic of wastes any creature produces, human waste, it will be judge in accordance with Baal worship if it's practice persists indefinitely.
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That is an interesting take on it. It could be I'm trying to be too.... worldly? Very interesting take anyway.
 
It will most definitely lead to "death" if the person doesn't repent and get saved.

The Death spoken of is God's judgment and punishment of eternal damnation.

Think about it in regards to other sins...If someone killed another person, but never got caught and was never punished on this earth...wouldn't it still be a sin, and wouldn't they still stand before God for that sin? The same goes for lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord and unless they repent (turn away from that sin) and get saved then they will be punished in the Lake of Fire.
 
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1ofthem said:
It will most definitely lead to "death" if the person doesn't repent and get saved.

The Death spoken of is God's judgment and punishment of eternal damnation.

Think about it in regards to other sins...If someone killed another person, but never got caught and was never punished on this earth...wouldn't it still be a sin, and wouldn't they still stand before God for that sin? The same goes for lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

Homosexuality is an abomination unto the Lord and unless they repent (turn away from that sin) and get saved then they will be punished in the Lake of Fire.
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I was told that the Lord can remake you though. Do you not agree? I mean if that was an option wouldn't everyone take it?
 
Kafziel said:
I was told that the Lord can remake you though. Do you not agree? I mean if that was an option wouldn't everyone take it?
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Yes, that is why I said unless they repent and get saved.

If someone gets saved God cleanses them from sin and their old nature.

It is the case and no not everyone accepts salvation. Some love their sin more than God and want to continue on it. And this is where the wages of sin is death verse comes in.

Some love sin so much that they would rather die in their sins.
 
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What is your definition of sin and what is a Biblical one?
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Well it says something about divine law. I just view the nature of the universe as divine laws laid out by it's creator. So you could say the laws of the universe are divine laws.
 
John 3
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 
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Well it says something about divine law. I just view the nature of the universe as divine laws laid out by it's creator. So you could say the laws of the universe are divine laws.
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What is sin? The Hebrew word Avera means to transgress against God. In older English Synn also means to be guilty of wrong doing against God and man.
 
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Aerials1978 said:
What is sin? The Hebrew word Avera means to transgress against God. In older English Synn also means to be guilty of wrong doing against God and man.
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Well wouldn't it be a transgression if by the nature of the world he made you had done something which causes harm?
 
Kafziel said:
Well wouldn't it be a transgression if by the nature of the world he made you had done something which causes harm?
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What harm was caused by Adam and Eve when they transgressed in the Garden? Was it an offense to God’s character and holiness as the Clay Maker or that they violated a natural law? What I am trying to gather is, are where do you stand with as stated by scripture as to what sin is?
 
Aerials1978 said:
What harm was caused by Adam and Eve when they transgressed in the Garden? Was it an offense to God’s character and holiness as the Clay Maker or that they violated a natural law? What I am trying to gather is, are where do you stand with as stated by scripture as to what sin is?
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Well it could be they violated natural law in a way. the knowledge of good and evil leads to self harm. It leads to many questions and pondering, and sometimes leads to conclusions that lead to war, because people are deemed evil and irredeemable. We lost our purity when we decided to start pondering morality.
 
Aerials1978 said:
What harm was caused by Adam and Eve when they transgressed in the Garden? Was it an offense to God’s character and holiness as the Clay Maker or that they violated a natural law? What I am trying to gather is, are where do you stand with as stated by scripture as to what sin is?
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I tried it out actually. Tried to just be pure and then I realized I understood animals. I have nearly tamed a squirrel in the backyard just by using body language. So it's as if the animal speaks to me and I understand.
 
Well I say nearly tamed but not quite I can get it to come close to me anyway.
 
Kafziel said:
Well it could be they violated natural law in a way. the knowledge of good and evil leads to self harm. It leads to many questions and pondering, and sometimes leads to conclusions that lead to war, because people are deemed evil and irredeemable. We lost our purity when we decided to start pondering morality.
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So are alluding to a naturalist view that morality is subjective to the individual?
 
Kafziel said:
I would define sins as things that invoke the wrath of God. Sodomy for example, with the advent of condoms and anti-biotics is it still really a sin? I mean we no longer die of infection, the wages of sin in this case are not death. So is it really still a sin?
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Yes.

REPENT.
 
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