Are You Rapture Ready?

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He was delivered through the flood; just as the 3 Hebrew children were delivered in the furnace and Daniel in the lion's den. Just as we are delivered daily in Christ.
No, he floated through the flood, in the Ark he built following God's instructions, and keep in mind that this was the first ship ever built in human history. God didn't miraculously teleported him to anywhere or repelled the water from him, like the deliverance in the furnace.
 
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No, he floated through the flood, in the Ark he built following God's instructions, and keep in mind that this was the first ship ever built in human history. God didn't miraculously teleported him to anywhere or repelled the water from him, like the deliverance in the furnace.
The deliverance for the 3 Hebrew children was in the furnace. Daniel's deliverance was in the lion's den. And Noah and his family were delivered in the ark through the flood.

God doesn't deliver out if difficulty. He delivers us through it. We are more than conquerors. Have you wondered why we are more than conquerors, and not simply conquerors? Because as God allows the enemy to attack us, He uses the attacks to work for our benefit as He uses what is meant to harm us to strengthen us. In this way, not only is the enemy defeated, but we are forged more and more into the image of God. More than conquerors. Just awesome.
 
Here's a famous, back in the day, debate on the pre, mid and post trib Rapture timing. If you have an hour, it's quite amuzing to see these dignified guests get a little 'perturbed' while attempting to be calm and collected, lol.
 
The deliverance for the 3 Hebrew children was in the furnace. Daniel's deliverance was in the lion's den. And Noah and his family were delivered in the ark through the flood.

God doesn't deliver out if difficulty. He delivers us through it. We are more than conquerors. Have you wondered why we are more than conquerors, and not simply conquerors? Because as God allows the enemy to attack us, He uses the attacks to work for our benefit as He uses what is meant to harm us to strengthen us. In this way, not only is the enemy defeated, but we are forged more and more into the image of God. More than conquerors. Just awesome.
Could you clarify please, wasn't Lot and family warned to get out of S&G away from the fire and brimstone to fall? And, not to argue, what exactly is the reason for the Church to be present during God's terrible wrath? Just curious the thinking on this.
 
Could you clarify please, wasn't Lot and family warned to get out of S&G away from the fire and brimstone to fall? And, not to argue, what exactly is the reason for the Church to be present during God's terrible wrath? Just curious the thinking on this.
I'm not really talking about wrath. I'm just sharing about the ways of God. But my thoughts about wrath are that wrath only comes upon those under condemnation. Christians are no longer under condemnation so they will not experience wrath.

My views on eschatology probably differ from yours as I believe most prophecy was fulfilled in the 1st century. I find most conversations on the topic unprofitable so I don't really get into many discussions on the topic. If you have a particular question, I'll try to answer.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
Jesus : "MY COMING WILL BE before the flood, NORMAL EVERYDAY LIFE, ONE TAKEN, ONE LEFT BEHIND"

YOU;
" JESUS WORDS are hung up on a flood, and He lacks discernment.
Jesus can not see the forest for the trees."

Flat out sad.
 
Noah was not "spared from the flood." Noah was on the ark for about one full year.
Noah was gathered PREFLOOD/PRETRIB into the ark.
(A type of heaven).
NoaH was lifted up into the heavens ABD REMAINED OVER A MILE ABOVE the earth FOR TGE DURATION OF THE TRIB.
Noah RETURNED FROM THE HEAVENS POSTRFLOOD/POSTRIB.

All that is picture perfect VIVID PICTURE of pretrib rapture

All that is cast down by you, as Jesus if supposedly confused.

So sad friend.

You doctrine omits many many verses, and twists EVERY PRETRIB RAPTURE VERSE.

Look up the pretrib rapture verses in your workbook
They ain't there.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
Amen.
Pray that I Keep making you go against the bible as you are demonstrating so manually.

The bible good.
Your doctrine bad.
Absolutely fact.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
QUOTE;
"This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared."

We all see the story and analogy of Jesus.
We all see there are MANY COMPONENTS of the analogy.

We all aee you OMITTING EVERY ONE OF THEM, SAVE " BE READY"

Then accuse others of no discernment

Hilarious.

Pssst.. does not your doctrine dictate a post flood rapture???????
YOU claim Noah goes through the trib/flood on earth.
Do you then imagine, in your mind, he is raptured/gathered/ caught up/taken, postrflood/postrib ?????
Really??????
You can not even begin to unpack mat 24.
You can not POSSIBLY begin to get it right.
You have no clue as to what Jesus is saying.
Really????
You can not read "BEFORE THE FLOOD....."

Jesus uses it against your doctrine.

....and you are oblivious.
 
By all means show the forum WHERE Jesus taught the pre-trib rapture! You're on!

We need to prepare to endure tribulation. It's crazy to think you won't be here to endure it.
Tell us what is happening with "one taken, one left behind" in mat 24.

Show us the postrib doctrine method of rewriting that passage.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
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""worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it."

Was God in error when he evacuated Lot, and the baby Jesus?

Your doctrine supposes.
Your doctrine is based on supposition.
And I just shot it down.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
Note that the ark of Noah is a type of heaven (the dwelling of God).

The Ark of the covenant was also a wooden rectangular box and it was also covered inside and out. As was Noah's Ark.
 
"worthy to escape" is NOT synonymous with "evacuation."

escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture

The entire flood account is one of God providentially guiding his people through the calamity - NOT evacuating them out of it.


This mistake is the result of a serious lack of discernment. He cannot understand that the flood was mentioned simply as an EXAMPLE of what happens to the unprepared.

In verse 3, Jesus was asked, "what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?" He goes on to state many things, which are all IN RELATION TO what happened historically - they do not involve the flood itself; the flood is past history.

Context is everything. The poor guy is hung up in the flood and can't see the subsequent tribulation for the trees.

"For as [IOW, this is a metaphor, a simile, for illustrative purpose] in the days that were before the flood...so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." (v. 38 & 39)

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. (v. 42)
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. (v.44)

Meanwhile, what awaits the pre-trib rapture theory follower:

The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of. And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (v. 50 & 51)

Pray for Psalm1, that the scales would fall from his eyes that he may receive sight.
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"escape = to flee out of, to flee away, to seek safety in flight = NO CONNECTION with any so-called rapture"

This is what I mean, when I say "I make postribbers go against the bible"

They can not help themselves.
Jesus taught a pretrib rapture, complete with the command to "pray to worthy of escape", and they can not handle it.

So they think those raptured, DO NOT ESCAPE.

SMH
 
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Could you clarify please, wasn't Lot and family warned to get out of S&G away from the fire and brimstone to fall? And, not to argue, what exactly is the reason for the Church to be present during God's terrible wrath? Just curious the thinking on this.


You've asked this question before. Why do you keep asking this question and not listen to the answer?

You keep switching the meaning of wrath with tribulation. Do you not see that God can see you do this? And you think God won't do anything about your persistent deception?

If you keep trying to deceive people with your dumb question and refuse to obey God to build up your faith, you will NOT survive the GT.


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No, he floated through the flood, in the Ark he built following God's instructions, and keep in mind that this was the first ship ever built in human history. God didn't miraculously teleported him to anywhere or repelled the water from him, like the deliverance in the furnace.
Postribs believe In a rapture postrib.
Jesus used Noah in the serting before the flood as an analogy of his COMING.

You think Jesus used a gathering preflood in error ?

Should there be a gathering at His coming?

Should we insert a gathering post flood in the Noah analogy?

Was Noah a type of Jesus coming, but JESUS got the gathering misplaced at the BEGINING.
( JESUS EXACT WORDS " BEFORE THE FLOOD")

You guys don't ever mention the pretrib escapes by Jesus in his word.

Instead you guys attempt a law that nobody is ever taken away/gathered pretrib.
Absolutely false and an outright lie.
 
You've asked this question before. Why do you keep asking this question and not listen to the answer?

You keep switching the meaning of wrath with tribulation. Do you not see that God can see you do this? And you think God won't do anything about your persistent deception?

If you keep trying to deceive people with your dumb question and refuse to obey God to build up your faith, you will NOT survive the GT.
In your dogmatic view, if you can, tell me what I'm refusing to build up my faith for? Or will you dodge this answer as well.
Oh and when you try and act like God thinks I'm being deceptive, it just shows how immature and fanatical you are.