Are You Rapture Ready?

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Those that believe in Pretrib rapture are set up for a fall . In Apostle Paul’s time there where those that said the resurrection was past over throwing the faith of some . Thinking they missed it all . Then Paul corrected the error .
Quite the opposite.
The 5 wise Virgins in Matthew 25, were not wise via stocking up for some supposed tribulation experience.
They were wise because they were expecting the bride groom, which i'm sure you mock and ridicule.
 
Noah did escape the flood. The 3 Hebrew children did escape from the furnace. Daniel did escape from the lion's den.

There are also times when God removes people from circumstances.

But to say God only acts in 1 way and not both is clearly incorrect. God isn't limited. He is sovereign. He does as He pleases.

And again, I'm not exemplifying eschatology in any of my posts. I believe most prophecy was fulfilled in the 1st century and that most people don't understand eschatological prophecy very well. But I have no desire to engage with people on the topic who have already made up their mind.
All, in my example, including Noah, were gathered before the trib.

I never said God's people never escape via "going through trials"

I am addressing your false law that God never escapes his people.
That is your false dynamic I am addressing.
 
Yes I was impressed with this thing we must be prepared as it is said not to be unprepared. Luke 21 v 34 - 36 watch ye there fore and pray always , that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things , that shall come to pass , and stand before the Son of man . Yes we must be prepared for tribulation!
Amazing how you porrtray your false "no removal law" into Jesus escape verse.

Did lot escape via removal?
Did the baby Jesus?

Even Noah was gathered pretrib, into the ark, the ark being a type of heaven.
 
Yes I was impressed with this thing we must be prepared as it is said not to be unprepared. Luke 21 v 34 - 36 watch ye there fore and pray always , that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things , that shall come to pass , and stand before the Son of man . Yes we must be prepared for tribulation!
Tell me what you do to be "tribulation ready"

The proper attitude is in the wise virgins.

It is bizarre how you guys think the opposite of the bible.

The 5 wise WENT WITH JESUS.
Ahem...wise due to preparations to be taken.
The parable is a VIVID VIVID picture of the pretrib rapture.
 
All, in my example, including Noah, were gathered before the trib.

I never said God's people never escape via "going through trials"

I am addressing your false law that God never escapes his people.
That is your false dynamic I am addressing.
And I never said God doesn't ever move people to deliver them.

Grace and peace.
 
Even Noah was gathered pretrib, into the ark, the ark being a type of heaven.
That the poster would conflate his "pre-trib rapture theory" with the ark, tells us how far astray from the truth he has wandered.

Pride is a truth killer. Ppl that do not pray, do not discern.
 
That the poster would conflate his "pre-trib rapture theory" with the ark, tells us how far astray from the truth he has wandered.

Pride is a truth killer. Ppl that do not pray, do not discern.
So, what words do you have for those who humbly and prayerfully 'discerned' (for 18 months)
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Amen.
 
So, what words do you have for those who humbly and prayerfully 'discerned' (for 18 months)
Rather, what words do they have for us?

Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. (2 Tim. 2).
 
Be more specific.
Calm down., cast your hate down, and get rational.

I can debate any one of you.
Stop acting like I am as you, (without verses)
Stop that silly nonsense.
The only silly nonsense is what you've made over the past 30 pages. Be more specific, please, pre-trib resurrection. Show me where is it around Rev. 14:14.
 
The only silly nonsense is what you've made over the past 30 pages. Be more specific, please, pre-trib resurrection. Show me where is it around Rev. 14:14.
Lol
You don't know what you are talking about.
There is zero resurrection in rev 14:14

Like i said...stop that behavior.
I called you out and you did your same personal attack..
You need to take a break.
I am here for concept vs concept.
Not your goofy personal punching bag silliness
You come across with animosity against your brother.
Get a bible, get honest about it and let's go.
 
Pretrib rapture is false prophecy! How many claimed it and set dates ? Many they made themselves false prophets.
They say the same against most any truth.

I couldn't care less about opinions.
Opinions crucifed Jesus.

Your generalizations about doctrine do not matter at all.

Get yourself a bible and show me how Jesus was confused about more than one coming.
( a postribber grave irreparable fallacy, and false prophecy)
 
That the poster would conflate his "pre-trib rapture theory" with the ark, tells us how far astray from the truth he has wandered.

Pride is a truth killer. Ppl that do not pray, do not discern.
Lol
You don't know your Bible very well huh?
Jesus did it.
It is his words you reject.

Mat 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, SO SHALL THE COMING of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ARK....,

Can you believe the audacity of that Jesus????
going against your doctrine!!!!
The nerve of him.incorporating the ARK as a picture of His COMING!!!!

I am amazed at your lack of discernment.
Could be prayerlessness on your part.
Could be pride.
Whatever went wrong, the bible will fix it.
Study more.
 
Give an example of how you "build up your faith"


No. Ask God yourself how to do this and obey Him on it. You need to be able to recognize His voice among all others.

You haven't been listening to Him about this so far, so I know you're not going to listen to me.

You already admitted that you'd take the mark. That is a clear sign you are not taking God seriously and not building up your faith in Christ to endure to the end.


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The angel of death passed over the houses with the blood on their doorpost, and also all the second and third born and so forth. You'd think the angel of death had some sort of intelligence that distinguished it from a phenomenon like flood waters, though similarly working, like flood waters.
 
The angel of death passed over the houses with the blood on their doorpost, and also all the second and third born and so forth. You'd think the angel of death had some sort of intelligence that distinguished it from a phenomenon like flood waters, though similarly working, like flood waters.


Yes!

God knows how to distinguish His own people among others.

Also note they weren't removed or raptured out.

I have no worries about being here during the bowls judgements if it comes to that.


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Amazing how you porrtray your false "no removal law" into Jesus escape verse.

Did lot escape via removal?
Did the baby Jesus?

Even Noah was gathered pretrib, into the ark, the ark being a type of heaven.

No. The ark was likened to baptism in water, just as the scriptures record:

18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him.
It's Christ's heavenly authority that preserves us through tribulation.

And to be thorough, water baptism is an immersion into the death of Christ Jesus:

"Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death..."


The promise of which, and God cannot lie, is a new life:

"..that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."
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"For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. 7For he who has died has been freed from sin."
Some might say: "water baptism saves us to go to heaven". No. Water baptism saves us from a conscience that opposes God. For through water, we may live today free from condemnation. That's what Paul writes (this is for today):

"Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. 13And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. 14For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace."

Ironically, those who practice the law are claiming that sin still "reigns in their mortal bodies." They are the most unclean people, not just because they live with a sin-conscience but because by practicing the law they are actively rejecting the work of Christ on their behalf. But that's another thread...
 
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When you go through the GT, are you willing to be not be able to buy or sell and lose your head and your life because you choose Jesus over the antichrist and his mark?

That's all I pray for. I don't care if you falsely hope for pre-trib rapture as long as you build up your faith to be able to stay faithful to Jesus in the GT.

If you don't build your faith up, will you still be able to say "no" to the antichrist and his mark? There is only spiritual strength in Jesus through His Holy Spirit.

Why not cover your bases like @Edify who is prepared either way???


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I'm about ready to put you on ignore. I don't have time to deal with someone so dogmatic they now think they can speak for God. I'm not in, nor has God, ever put His kids through His wrath as in the GT. Why you want to make our perfect Father of Love out to bring down His wrath upon His Church, I have no words for. My earthly father would never even do such a thing. As in the following Word, if believers are here, as with Noah, we will be lifted up or caught up and away from God's punishment/wrath upon the world.


For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be', Mt 24:38-39.

Yes, God distinguished His children as in Lot and family, and told them to GET OUT of S&G.
Passover is another great example of God sparing His own from disaster and Daniel in the Lion's den God protected Daniel from persecution, for not bowing down. The GT is God's wrath upon the world not upon His Church.
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Mat 24:39
And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.