As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Rather, documentation, and not mere opinion or rhetoric, has indeed been posted. If you expect to be successful in this spiritual war, then you will need the best spiritual weapon. For the follower of Jesus Christ, that would be the Holy Bible and not an invention (e.g. LXX).

If by Holy Bible you mean the Masoretic Text, it has many inventions in it. The Masoretes altered the Hebrew text in numerous places by incorporating their traditions (masorah) into it.

Zechariah 14:5 is a good example. By simply altering the pronunciation of a word three times in that verse (nstm) they changed its meaning from a landslide blocking up the Kidron Valley to the messiah splitting the Mt of Olives so his people could flee through it, just like Moses split the Red Sea so Israel could flee through it. Targum Jonathan to the Prophets actually adds "at the Red Sea" to the end of verse 2. There is abundant real-world evidence that the LXX version, which describes a valley being blocked up, is correct. Even the Jewish Publication Society has stopped using the MT version of that verse in some of their bibles (eg, Tanakh: The Holy Scriptures) in favor of the LXX version.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Exactly!!!!!

The Hebrew term is “Beni Elohim” in both Genesis and Job. Consult a concordance like Strongs.

Maybe I can get you to see truth after all.

The LXX mentions sons of God in Genesis, which can be interpreted to mean the godly seed of Adam, and mentions angels of God in the book of Job. In the other verse you mentioned it says the angels of God rejoiced with God, not the sons of God shouted for joy.

 

[WiselyWoven]

If by Holy Bible you mean...

...the Received Text.

The actual title of God's word is the Holy Bible (nothing copyrighted; not the KJV (King James Version) or even the KJB (King James Bible)). Jealous new version 'editors' sought to "rename" it centuries ago, a marketing ploy which has worked in their favor ever since.

Bible "critics" prefer the plethora of "new" copyrighted "versions" of the Holy Bible, as such provides them with the wiggle room they require to build their godless ivory towers.

 

[WiselyWoven]

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As per the OP:

So first I'll lay out SOME of the vast Biblical proof that fallen angels DID mate with human women producing the Nephillim, hybrid race, the ALSO AFTERWARD, and the CORRUPTED flesh.
Then talk about how we are committing the same sin that they did.

It was common knowledge in the United States in the 1800s that there were burial mounds at numerous sites containing the bones of giant humans. In 1848, Abraham Lincoln mentioned this once in a speech given at Niagara Falls:

"But still there is more. It calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent---when Christ suffered on the cross---when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea---nay, even, when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker---then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants, whose bones fill the mounds of America, have gazed on Niagara, as ours do now."
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[Aaron56]

Case closed.

You misspelled “I’m unteachable”.

 

[PennEd]

You misspelled “I’m unteachable”.

Agreed.

You are.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

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As per the OP:

It was common knowledge in the United States in the 1800s that there were burial mounds at numerous sites containing the bones of giant humans. In 1848, Abraham Lincoln mentioned this once in a speech given at Niagara Falls:

"But still there is more. It calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent---when Christ suffered on the cross---when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea---nay, even, when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker---then as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants, whose bones fill the mounds of America, have gazed on Niagara, as ours do now."
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Giant skeletons reported in the United States until the early 20th century were a combination of hoaxes, scams, fabrications, and the misidentifications of extinct megafauna. Many were reported to have been found in Native American burial mounds. Examples from 7 ft (2.1 m) to 20 ft (6.1 m) tall were reported in many parts of the United States.

The claims of "giant skeletons" were debunked in 1934 by Aleš Hrdlička, curator of anthropology at the Smithsonian Institution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_human_skeletons

 

[WiselyWoven]

We note your very first words in this thread:

Depends on what bible you read. In the Septuagint (LXX)...

...and that comment has typified your contributions thus far.

Followers of Jesus Christ accept the Holy Bible as the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. Whereas the LXX is not the Holy Bible.

With the LXX debunked, evidently you've switched to another tactic:

The claims of "giant skeletons" were debunked in 1934 by Aleš Hrdlička, curator of anthropology at the Smithsonian Institution

lol @wikipedia's quote. lol again @the Smithsonian debunking the Smithsonian.

Rather, President Lincoln confirmed the existence of giants back in 1848.
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[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Followers of Jesus Christ accept the Holy Bible as the final authority in all matters of faith and practice. Whereas the LXX is not the Holy Bible.

Your opinion. You sound like a KJV-only, or a derivation thereof, fanatic.

Rather, President Lincoln confirmed the existence of giants back in 1848.

Yes, Lincoln was an expert on such things. Are you really this sloppy in your thinking?

 

[WiselyWoven]

Your opinion. You sound like a KJV-only, or a derivation thereof, fanatic.

Mere talk is cheap, as you evince. But thank you, anyway. When you've finished crying over your invention, please pick up the truth, the Holy Bible, and and read it.

Meanwhile, there remain thousands of media accounts of the existence of giants, like this one:
https://nz.pinterest.com/rc5206/nephilim-giants/

If we were brothers, I'd invite you over to view giants' burial mounds near my hometown.

 

[Inquisitor]

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Most Septuagint devotees are not well-read on the subject.


Origen's Hexapla is the source for nearly all corruptions seen in today's bible versions (many thousands). He apparently was one conflicted fella, as he had castrated himself.


Origen's Hexapla and the LXX are one in the same and thoroughly corrupt.

There are absolutely no manuscripts pre-dating the third century A.D. to validate the claim that Jesus or Paul quoted a Greek Old Testament. Quotations by Jesus and Paul in new versions’ New Testaments may match readings in the so-called Septuagint because new versions are from the exact same corrupt fourth and fifth century A.D. manuscripts which underlie the document sold today and called the Septuagint. These manuscripts are Alexandrinus, Vaticanus, and Sinaiticus.

According to the colophon on the end of Sinaiticus, it came from Origen’s Hexapla (please read it). The others likely did also. Even church historians, Jerome, Hort, and our contemporary D.A. Carson, would agree that this is true. Origen wrote his Hexapla two hundred years after the life of Christ and Paul! NIV New Testament and Old Testament quotes may match occasionally because both originated from a manuscript penned by the same hand — a hand which recast both Old and New Testament to suit his Platonic and Gnostic leanings. New versions take the Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, and Alexandrinus manuscripts - which came from Origen’s Hexapla — and change the traditional Masoretic Old Testament text to match these. Alfred Martin, who was a past vice-president of Moody Bible Institute, called Origen “unsafe.” Origen’s Hexapla is a very unsafe source to use to change the historic Hebrew Old Testament.

Several previous posts have included sufficient documentation to successfully refute the credibility of LXX. Further promotion of this dubious invention is neither warranted nor sought.

Time to get back on track with PennEd's OP.
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I asked AI to examine your quotation below.

"Origen compiled the Hexapla that included the LXX. He lived centuries after the LXX was translated.
Origen's Hexapla and the LXX are one in the same and thoroughly corrupt.
There are absolutely no manuscripts pre-dating the third century A.D. to validate the claim that Jesus or Paul quoted a Greek Old Testament. Quotations by Jesus and Paul in new versions’ New Testaments may match readings in the so-called Septuagint because new versions are from the exact same corrupt fourth and fifth century A.D. manuscripts which underlie the document sold today and called the Septuagint. These manuscripts are Alexandrinus, Vaticanus, and Sinaiticus."​

here is what AI had to say.


What is accurate:

1. Origen and the Hexapla:
   • Origen did compile the Hexapla in the early 3rd century A.D. (~c. 240 A.D.), which included six columns: Hebrew, a transliteration into Greek letters, and four Greek versions (including the LXX).
   • Origen lived centuries after the initial translation of the LXX (~3rd–2nd century B.C.).
2. Early LXX Manuscripts:
   • It is true that complete manuscripts of the LXX do not exist before the 3rd–4th centuries A.D. Fragmentary evidence (e.g., Papyrus Rylands 458, Papyrus Fouad 266) exists earlier but not in complete form.

What is inaccurate or misleading:

1. “Origen's Hexapla and the LXX are one and the same”:
   • Incorrect. The Hexapla was a critical comparison tool including the LXX and other versions, not equivalent to “the LXX.”
   • Origen corrected the LXX in the fifth column using Hebrew and other Greek versions for comparison, but the Hexapla itself is not the LXX.
2. “Thoroughly corrupt”:
   • This is a theological or textual criticism opinion, not a documented fact. While there are textual differences, many early Christians and Jews used the LXX, and the term “thoroughly corrupt” is an interpretive claim.
3. Jesus and Paul quoting the LXX:
   • Although no complete LXX manuscripts survive pre-3rd century A.D., there is strong scholarly evidence that Jesus and Paul quoted from the Greek Scriptures, as NT quotations often align more closely with the LXX than the Masoretic Text:
     • E.g., Hebrews 10:5 quotes Psalm 40:6 using LXX wording.
     • Romans 3:12–18, a composite quotation, aligns closely with LXX forms.
   • Fragments (e.g., Qumran Greek scrolls, early papyri) indicate Greek OT usage before Jesus’ time.
4. “New versions from exact same corrupt manuscripts (Alexandrinus, Vaticanus, Sinaiticus)”:
   • Vaticanus (B), Sinaiticus (ℵ), and Alexandrinus (A) contain LXX texts and NT texts, but modern critical editions use many manuscripts, not only these three.
   • The LXX text used today is based on multiple sources, including these codices, but is not simply identical to them.
5. Equating “the Septuagint sold today” with these 4th–5th century manuscripts:
   • Modern LXX editions (e.g., Rahlfs, Göttingen) critically compare many manuscript traditions and are not just copies of Vaticanus or Sinaiticus.

Balanced Conclusion:

Correct:

• Origen compiled the Hexapla including the LXX, long after the LXX was translated.
• Complete LXX manuscripts post-date the 3rd century A.D.

Incorrect:

• The Hexapla and the LXX are not the same.
• Calling the LXX “thoroughly corrupt” is interpretive.
• NT quotations do align with the LXX, even if no complete manuscripts predate the NT.
• Modern LXX editions are not simply Vaticanus/Sinaiticus but draw on multiple sources.

 

[WiselyWoven]

I asked AI to examine your quotation below...here is what AI had to say.

What man of God would seek out what A.I. says???

When you're ready to quote primary (or even secondary) sources, then you might be worth listening to. Otherwise, you're just another of those who..."think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." (Mat. 6)

You also would do well to stick with the Holy Bible.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Mere talk is cheap, as you evince. But thank you, anyway. When you've finished crying over your invention, please pick up the truth, the Holy Bible, and and read it.
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lol I grew up on it.

 

[WiselyWoven]

lol I grew up on [the Holy Bible]

Please use it and do some more growing.

From the OP:

But I will NOT be doing much, if any, debating with those that either can't, or won't accept the plain Biblical truth about fallen angels. That is not speculative. I will be doing some speculation, but that fact is not. If there are honest, skeptical questions fine. But otherwise I'd recommend just scrolling on by.

I agree.

We know angels "left their first estate" and mated with earthly women who bore children that were rather large (aka giants) and wicked.

What are the implications for us at this time?

 

[Shepherd]

And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord. (Gen. 10:8-9).

When one is "before" someone, it is not always something positive.

When you are brought "before the judge" because you have been accused of speeding, it's not because are you being favored. Quite the opposite.

"before" can also mean against.

Concerning the OP,

The following is not taught within the so-called Christian denominations. The reason will become obvious.

There are 34 tribes of giants (845 total references) mentioned in the Holy Bible, but you won't hear that from your local denomination. Rather, we get only a watered down "Goliath" snippet. Clues are to be found everywhere, if only we would pray and ask. Concerning that hackneyed story of Goliath, what isn't usually mentioned is that the reason why David took five stones across the creek was not because David had a poor aim, but because Goliath had four (giant) brothers... (1 Sam. 17:40).

The National Library of Congress has THOUSANDS of archived newspaper articles going back hundreds of years that chronicle the discovery of giant bones and artifacts. And the subsequent Smithsonian cover ups of each are also documented.

Folks wonder about the biblical accounts of a supposedly loving God who orders the destruction of every man, woman, child AND animal. But those were actually acts of mercy, as it was cities/tribes of giants being taken out so that they would not continue to pollute man's gene pool in an attempt to prevent the birth of the coming Messiah (just like today, with the poison injections and genetic slicing, dicing, tampering). The fallen ones (Nephilim) mated with earthly women, who produced rather large offspring (giants). These giants then mated with everything, including animals (recall the Greek half-man, half-beast legends); they were also cannibalistic and many had six fingers and six toes; some had two rows of teeth. Anything that defiles God's creation, e.g. our temple (the believer's body) is fair game. The reason why God flooded/executed the entire planet (except for Noah's eight, because Noah's genetics were not compromised) was because of the abominations of the giants. The flood of Noah's time is absolute key to bible prophecy.

The reason why this biblical info is hidden or poo-poo'd is because Jesus said his return would be "as it was in the days of Noah." i.e. we had giants roaming the earth then. So, when Christ returns, there will likewise be giants roaming the earth. Satan wants to manipulate the situation; he does not want us to know or recognize or discern the return of Jesus Christ. Jesus said that deception would mark the time of his return; we are there now.

We are given so much info throughout the Holy Bible concerning the return of the Nephilim (giants). Here's another clue:

The debate about women and the head covering thing is all about the application of proper authority, in terms of proper spiritual alignment, such that we all remain protected. Specifically, in this instance, we're talking about the woman.

The clue is here:

"For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." (1 Cor. 11, v. 10)

It was a commonly accepted belief that a repeat of the Genesis chapter 6 episode, where fallen angels mated with earthly women, was not only possible but probable. IOW, these rebellious and malevolent angels remain highly desirous of earthly women. And that is why it's still vital to this day that our women remain "under cover."

I am former military, from a long line of generational military. There are genetically altered/manipulated giants and other "hybrid" creatures present now, located underground and elsewhere, waiting. It's a numbers game for Satan, as his deluded plan is to kick God's backside at Armageddon. A foundational belief in Satan's world of the occult is that the second coming of Christ can be stopped. The disembodied spirits of the drowned giants (millions of them) are in the air about us now, seeking embodiment. My ministry is one of deliverance; I have had firsthand experience with some of these creatures who are constantly seeking human embodiment to act out their wicked natures. Also, think about the possibility of Satan, in occupying the "temple" as a result of ill-researched injection(s), using those injected people as a part of the numbers-game army he believes he's gonna need.

My only point was that "before the Lord" does not have to be done "in Heaven". Hence Abraham, Moses, and "Nimrod" were "before the Lord" on terra firma.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

My only point was that "before the Lord" does not have to be done "in Heaven". Hence Abraham, Moses, and "Nimrod" were "before the Lord" on terra firma.

And Elijah

And Elijah the Tishbite, [who was] of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, [As] the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word. 1 Kings 17:1​

 

[Inquisitor]

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The corrupt Vaticanus is sold today as the Septuagint.


Aramaic Targums are corrupt ‘interpretations’ of the scriptures. For instance, they apply the Messianic prophecy of Psalm 22 to Esther. For example: In Isaiah 9:3 the traditional pure Hebrew Bible (e.g. Bomberg) and the King James Bible say,

“Thou hast multiplied the nation, and not increased the joy ...”

The Targums join the margin of the Hebrew Bible to lead the NKJV, NIV, TNIV, NASB, HCSB, and ESV to omit the word “not” saying, “You have multiplied the nation And increased its joy ...”

But I digress.

Who loved Hermes and also made the following statement promoting the so-called originals over the KJB?

“In the King James’ version, as it stands translated, it has no resemblance what ever to the original...And yet Septuagint [Greek], Vulgate,
and Hebrew original, have all to be considered as an inspired Word of God.’’

Was it a good pastor, a media preacher, or a knowledgeable scholar? Although they all express this view when they correct the Bible, this quote is not from them. It is from the arch-Satan worshipper of the late 1800s, Madame Helena P. Blavatsky (HJ. P. Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled, Wheaton, IL: The Theosophical Publishing House, 1972, orig. 1877, vol. 2, p. 495).

Yet how many good pastors have said, “the original actually says”? Have Greek and Hebrew study tools become the 67th book of the Bible?

“They believed not his word” (Ps. 106:24).


And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (Jude 6)

The claim: “CDC admits the virus does not exist.”
The CDC has never stated that SARS-CoV-2 does not exist.
The virus has been isolated and sequenced independently in many laboratories worldwide (US, Germany, China, Canada, Australia, etc.) since early 2020.
The reference to “no quantified virus isolates” is often misquoted out of context.
The actual CDC quote:
In the CDC document you mention (for RT-PCR assay validation), it states:

“Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full-length RNA...”​

What this actually means:

• At the time of test validation (early 2020), quantified purified viral isolates with known copy number were not available, so they used synthetic RNA material to calibrate the PCR assays.
• This does not mean the virus does not exist; it reflects standard lab practice in early-stage assay development during an outbreak.

“No one has a sample of SARS-CoV-2”
This is incorrect.

• SARS-CoV-2 has been isolated and cultured in laboratories globally, and complete viral genomes are publicly available on databases like GenBank and GISAID.
• Viral isolates have been used to:
  • Develop vaccines (e.g., inactivated virus vaccines like Sinopharm).
  • Study infectivity and mutations.
  • Test antiviral drugs.

“Fact-checkers admit CDC substituted synthetic genetic material”
Fact-checkers have clarified:

• Synthetic RNA was used for PCR test calibration, not as a replacement for the virus itself.
• This is standard practice when live virus handling is impractical or when precise quantification is needed.

Summary:
Your paragraph:

“CDC admits the virus does not exist. … Bottom line: No one in the world has a sample of any 'SARS-CoV-2 virus' - least of all CDC.”​

is incorrect because:

• The CDC never said SARS-CoV-2 does not exist.
• The “no quantified isolates” quote refers to PCR assay calibration, not to the existence of the virus.
• The virus has been isolated and sequenced worldwide, including by the CDC.

If you would like, I can rewrite your paragraph accurately while retaining a cautious, critical perspective on PCR test limitations and early outbreak challenges, for your notes or public clarification. Let me know if you would like that next.


Ask ChatGPT

What man of God would seek out what A.I. says???

When you're ready to quote primary (or even secondary) sources, then you might be worth listening to. Otherwise, you're just another of those who..."think that they shall be heard for their much speaking." (Mat. 6)

You also would do well to stick with the Holy Bible.

You have been corrected but you are a very stubborn person.

 

[WiselyWoven]

You have been corrected but you are a very stubborn person.

With what? the fallen world's AI? ChatGPT?

Methinks you need to cry harder.

 

[WiselyWoven]

The CDC never said SARS-CoV-2 does not exist.

..and CDC never will., 'cause it's a house of cards. Instead, CDC counts on countless dummies who don't perform due diligence.

The virus has been isolated and sequenced worldwide, including by the CDC.

LOL ...and we're expected to simply trust them at their word? Where's the documentation? If CDC had "the virus," CDC would herald the thing forever. But, CDC does NOT have it, so CDC must lie and bloviate and pettifog to sucker fools who do not care to critically read CDC's crafty fairy tale.

Rather,
FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (225 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever.

Every institution failed to cite any record re: purification of the imaginary "covid-19 virus" from any patient sample, by anyone, anywhere, or proof of "its" existence.

Freedom of Information responses from 90 institutions (including Public Health Agency of Canada, USA CDC, UK Department of Health and Social Care, Indian Council of Medical Research) in 20 countries/jurisdictions show that
health/science institutions have NO RECORD of "SARS-COV - 2 and 19" isolation/purification from ANY patient sample, by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, EVER!

Because the CDC got caught without a virus, the perp's "news service" (this time, Reuters) was tasked with fabricating another "fact checkers" fiction. Read the Reuters piece for yourself;. a link to it can be found here or in my signature below.

The very Reuters "fact check" piece merely mentioned by Inquisitor above (but which he did not post.), as proof that CDC has the coronavirus, craftily avoids addressing the real issue. If you simply read the gaslighting article critically, you will see that "...the CDC...used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus." IOW, CDC didn't use the coronavirus - because it doesn't have it and thus could never provide a sample of it to anyone. IOW, CDC simply ASSUMES the coronavirus exists, then goes on to play with its straw man, stroking its sleight-of-hand synthetic invention, rather than the non-existent real thing, which it does not possess. The truth of the matter is indeed revealed, but CDC knows the vast majority, especially the deceived and fearful injected, will not carefully read the wickedly crafted piece.

If there is no virus, then why are dubious injections being forced on ppl? What could be the motive?

The OP has been tested and found worthy.

 

[WiselyWoven]

P.S. Easy links:

The CDC document ('no virus available', see p. 40) can be found here.

The NO RECORD results of hundreds of FOI requests worldwide for "the virus" can be found here.

The Reuters News Service "fact checkers" piece ("the CDC...used synthetically produced genetic material") can be found here.

What could be the motive?