As tensions with Trump deepen, Europe wonders if America is lost for good.

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joaniemarie

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I encourage anyone who wants to know what's really going on in America to listen to people like Mark Levin and Michelle Malkin., Laura Ingram, Ben Shapiro., Rush Limbaugh., Gov. Huckabee., Shawn Hannity., etc.. these and many other conservatives here in America who actually tells the truth of what is happening here in America.
 

OstrichSmiling

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The left in our country are globalists imo. They don't love America and are like Obama who continually criticized America and Americans. You are correct., they seek money, power and influence and have had so much of it over the last decade. Tax paying Americans who finally woke up to the lies of the obama administration voted for Trump and now the fight is on.

Woman like Michelle Malkin are awesome conservatives not afraid to speak up against the evils of socialism in our country. This whole illegal immigrant issue has been going on for years but the media is blaming our President as if he caused it. I've been watching the different news programs compared to social media programs. It's scathing how the truth is not being reported to the masses. I like FoxNews and how they support President Trump. They seem to be the only main stream media that does present the real news.

I like Mark Levine who tells it like it is. Will post some one of his radio programs. He is another conservative in America. The left in our country does not support the values America was founded on.
Nor have the Democratic party ever done so. The political strata that makes it appear America is but a two party system seems to operate on the basis of antagonist protagonist modeling. The Democrats have always walked what is in the dark occult considered the Left Hand Path. The dark, negative, opposition forces.
While the Republican party has always worked to be the force for the light. The good. The freedoms and equality that arrived in the laws of the land.

I think it is a script we're watching unfold. I sat in on the local session of our state legislature once. This was years ago when a particular bill I was following was on the schedule. These elected ones knew a very minor number of the electorate were in attendance and all that session it was like bad acting performing before us. I swear I could feel that all they were doing was for show. That behind closed doors they had already hashed out the final outcome. And they were now in this dog and pony performance for our sake. So that it appeared that this is how the system of government and laws work.

Look at the national picture. Does it appear as if the opposite of righteousness is now gaining ground? While righteousness and moral values are being made to be the bad guy? The enemy? The un-civil un-righteous?
 

joaniemarie

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Nor have the Democratic party ever done so. The political strata that makes it appear America is but a two party system seems to operate on the basis of antagonist protagonist modeling. The Democrats have always walked what is in the dark occult considered the Left Hand Path. The dark, negative, opposition forces.
While the Republican party has always worked to be the force for the light. The good. The freedoms and equality that arrived in the laws of the land.

I think it is a script we're watching unfold. I sat in on the local session of our state legislature once. This was years ago when a particular bill I was following was on the schedule. These elected ones knew a very minor number of the electorate were in attendance and all that session it was like bad acting performing before us. I swear I could feel that all they were doing was for show. That behind closed doors they had already hashed out the final outcome. And they were now in this dog and pony performance for our sake. So that it appeared that this is how the system of government and laws work.

Look at the national picture. Does it appear as if the opposite of righteousness is now gaining ground? While righteousness and moral values are being made to be the bad guy? The enemy? The un-civil un-righteous?

I like your message in pictures "Don't let people pull you into their storm, draw them into your peace" AMEN!!

Yes, it does seem like the evil is winning but it's not. It's so important to remember that "this world is not our home...we're just a passing through..." because in this world the wrong WILL BE called right and the right WILL BE called wrong. It can be easy to fall into the fight and become a "mortal" man again but we must not forget WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST., we are no longer as we once were without Christ. I believe we are to always bring out the truth., discuss issues and even be involved in politics., be sure to vote in good and righteous leaders but never fight as unsaved men.

We are and always will be on the winning side because of Jesus. Politics is not bigger than the winning of souls. Even Nancy Polosi and Chuck Schuemer can be saved because God loves them too.
 

PurpleCandles

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Europe has no room to cast judgment on the U.S. . They appear lost now not America.
It is going to be a really interesting future.
 

gb9

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Nor have the Democratic party ever done so. The political strata that makes it appear America is but a two party system seems to operate on the basis of antagonist protagonist modeling. The Democrats have always walked what is in the dark occult considered the Left Hand Path. The dark, negative, opposition forces.
While the Republican party has always worked to be the force for the light. The good. The freedoms and equality that arrived in the laws of the land.

I think it is a script we're watching unfold. I sat in on the local session of our state legislature once. This was years ago when a particular bill I was following was on the schedule. These elected ones knew a very minor number of the electorate were in attendance and all that session it was like bad acting performing before us. I swear I could feel that all they were doing was for show. That behind closed doors they had already hashed out the final outcome. And they were now in this dog and pony performance for our sake. So that it appeared that this is how the system of government and laws work.

Look at the national picture. Does it appear as if the opposite of righteousness is now gaining ground? While righteousness and moral values are being made to be the bad guy? The enemy? The un-civil un-righteous?
ahh, so good to see an awake person, not under the propaganda brainwashing.........
 

Crustyone

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Do you wonder about it? For us it seems that we can not trust longer the US.
And far less we trust the Russian.
Trump Shows himself as America First. And this works not among equal Partners.
This works also not among Friends.
But we know, that the Future will come as the Bible says it. And all what we find now in the World will works for it. Our leaders are given from God and he will fulfill his purpose with them. Personell I dont want have war in my Country. But the fear of a war grows since Trump became President.
And Please do not forget, Germany has christian Roots, but is not an christian Country. The same with Europe. Our Constitution is Build on the 10 comentments, but the most people living according their own will.
I am sorry that you fear Trump. He is not a warmonger as you seem to think. He knows that there is peace though strength and putting the US first is his way of strengthening the US, not isolating the US. In the past our leaders have been assuming that we had the resources to help everyone to the detriment of our own country. With Obama in charge we saw how near the edge we were to losing our upper hand and being ignored as a policing nation. We have been the peacekeepers and with Trump we will get back to a stronger role in that regard. It seems to be working with North Korea and it may work with Iran, China and Russia, who were taking over that role. I agree that Trump's words might be seen as isolating, but that was to encourage us to have the will to fight back the left who want a New World Order, which biblically will be run by the beast and the Christians of this nation want no part of it.
 

tanakh

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I saw this report today concerning the numbers and percentages of those applying for asylum in the EU Countries during 2017
whether they are accurate I cant say but I reckon they might be a good indication as to what is happening. Exactly how many applications were successful was not given.

GERMANY 222,500 30.6%
ITALY 128,850 17.7%
FRANCE 99,330 13.6%
GREECE 58,650 8.1%
UK 33,780 4.6%
SPAIN 31,120 4.3%
OTHERS 154,180 21.1%
 

OstrichSmiling

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I saw this report today concerning the numbers and percentages of those applying for asylum in the EU Countries during 2017
whether they are accurate I cant say but I reckon they might be a good indication as to what is happening. Exactly how many applications were successful was not given.

GERMANY 222,500 30.6%
ITALY 128,850 17.7%
FRANCE 99,330 13.6%
GREECE 58,650 8.1%
UK 33,780 4.6%
SPAIN 31,120 4.3%
OTHERS 154,180 21.1%
I wouldn't know if those numbers are accurate either. Could we be sure any numbers we find on the Net are factual?

Certainly one thing is very obvious. The Islamic conquests of old that were defeated in their attempt to invade the west are now renewed using one methodology. The threat of ISIS. As well as the means of transport being unique in this new age. The label of refugee.
What a war strategy ISIS put forth. Terrorize Islamic nations people, pull the heart strings of the west, get the west to offer sanctuary to those that flee, hide among their numbers and invade western nations at those governments expense.
It's brilliant.
Because western nations governments are not.
And it all happened interestingly enough after European governments disarmed their people.
I see it as collusion with the enemy. Traitors at the highest office.
 
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We are in the last days. Seducing spirits are using humans to mislead into error.