Ask away.. I am willing to answer any question any about my biblical beliefs

[Red33]

if you have the stomach for it, you'll find out who these people really are: the fact they teach dispensational theology is a good hint
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I don't believe in that stuff about the blood and taking communion and you know that. You also know what I believe concerning dispensational truth and the separation of the nation of Israel and the church where the middle wall of partition has been broken down (Eph 2:14). I am not going into it on this thread and there are many believers that would call this a fraudulent practice and a gross misuse and appropriation of the blood of Christ. These ministries that do this have connected financial blessings to just about everything and constantly look for the windows of heaven to pour out a blessing that they already have been blessed with according to (Eph 1:3). Just go name it and claim it with a new twist every now and then. When you make these kind of connections you are not being balanced and your not considering the heart of the believer. There is plenty that I could say but I won't because of the believer's capacity for truth. I know you meant nothing by it because your heart is purely after the truth, but it is something to consider,

Your brother in Christ,
redster

 

[foundthetruth]

Hey 4runner, check out my Noah thread. I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter

 

[zone]

I don't believe in that stuff about the blood and taking communion and you know that. You also know what I believe concerning dispensational truth and the separation of the nation of Israel and the church where the middle wall of partition has been broken down (Eph 2:14). I am not going into it on this thread and there are many believers that would call this a fraudulent practice and a gross misuse and appropriation of the blood of Christ. These ministries that do this have connected financial blessings to just about everything and constantly look for the windows of heaven to pour out a blessing that they already have been blessed with according to (Eph 1:3). Just go name it and claim it with a new twist every now and then. When you make these kind of connections you are not being balanced and your not considering the heart of the believer. There is plenty that I could say but I won't because of the believer's capacity for truth. I know you meant nothing by it because your heart is purely after the truth, but it is something to consider,

Your brother in Christ,
redster

hi Redster,
the Paula White Perry Stone exchange wasn't the point of the dispensational remark.
the link provided was.
i know and love lots of believers who currently hold some form of dispensational theology because that is what they were taught.
i'm not and am never concerned with the ordinary people who gather at their churches on Sunday who may believe dispensational theology.

i'm talking about the source of it, and the guys that are running it, and to what end.
i'm not sure about how much it'll hurts the sheep in those churches...we'll have to see.
yep brother, just after the truth.
love you
zone

 

[zone]

that's not claiming that if you buy the product..you will be healed!.........the product in question is a guide based on Scripture that reveals how protection/blessings are linked so to speak with the taking of communion...why don't you take what is being said in context and stop being the accuser of the Brethren....leave that for Satan, that's his job
I won't reply back as this is hijacking the thread Zone...you know it as you where quick to reprimand anyone straying off track on your pedestal..I mean thread.

May God remove those scales sister.

pardon?
i'm looking at other people.

PERRY STONE:
More Ecumenical "Comrades"

Voice of Evangelism >http://www.voe.org/home.cfm>is Perry Stone's ministry. We are reminded that Jews who do not know the Lord Jesus Christ are bound by the law. We cannot access their interpretation of the New Testament, and even the Old Testament is suspect to false interpretation by those who do not have Jesus Christ.

Galatians 3:10-12 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
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As has been proven, Gematria is a kabbalist teaching that Christians have no business dabbling in. It is the occult.

For more on Bill Cloud and his associations, please see: MJAA Executives & The Hebrew Roots "Fringe and the series on Brad Scott. As an aside, Bill Cloud of Shoreshim [Roots] Ministries, who was recently seen on the Christian station, Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) with host and longtime associate Perry Stone of "Manna-fest". Bill Cloud is a regular speaker at both Prophecy Conferences and Hebraic Roots conferences, and was on a "Texas Tour with Brad Scott" in July 2004. Both are featured speakers at events sponsored by Monte Judah of Lion and Lamb Ministries, who also promotes and sells Brad Scott's tapes and teachings. Monte Judah has been billed at another groups gathering as the "Moses of America". Bill Cloud's teachings very much reflect Brad's Scott's and others in the push to "Hebraic Roots" or 'getting back' to "our" Jewish Roots.Please see the series about Brad Scott in the Ministries and Leaders section: Brad Scott - Part 1: Introduction & Mountain West Mountain West Hebrew University Courses Brad Scott - Part 2: Pure Language & Sacred Name Brad Scott - Part 3: Gematria & the Apostle Paul Brad Scott - Part 4 : Torah Observant Gentile & Under the Law

Scott Pearson is a Jack Van Impe protégé and is connected with Perry Stone, who has a TV show. Voice of Evangelism, Stone's ministry mentioned above in connection to Bill Cloud and his kabbalism, has him denying being a Messianic Jew although he has Jewish heritage and teaches Hebraic roots and is found over and over again on Messianic sites. Scott Pearson's bio shows a picture of himself and Gary Kah "breaking bread together."

"...In 1981, Scott graduated from Amsterdam High School (Upstate New York), he soon afterward attended a Jack Van Impe Crusade. Previous to that time, Scott knew about God but didn't really know about receiving Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour. Henceforth, the message that Jack Van Impe shared that night so stirred him that he got save a as a result of that crusade. Scott then graduated from Schenectady College with an Associate in Science degree (Performing Arts in Music). He then graduated from Logos Bible college....He has been openly endorsed by the likes of such men as, Dr. Jack Van Impe, Perry Stone, as well as other nationally known evangelists. Scott was also recently (95-97) one of the keynote speakers at Dr. Ray Brubaker's highly acclaimed Annual International Prophecy Conference." 47
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"God has given Scott a wonderful grasp of His Word, and there is every evidence of the study of the Word of God on his part". Dr. David Breese [CNP] , Television Host The King Is Coming. "Scott's a great preacher.... You're going to enjoy him". Dr. Jack Van Impe" 48

See: MJAA Executives & The Hebrew Roots Fringe
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JR Church promotes Astrology and the Zodiac as the Gospel, an example of which is found in his PropheZine article, Where Will The Planets Be In The Year 2000?.48a

Ray Gano and PropheZine 48b promote the writings of William Dankenbring who reportedly has not only believed he was Elijah and that the Cabala is good, but teaches British Israelism 48c in the article, "The Oklahoma City Bombing, Militias, And -- The New World Order In Bible Prophecy!" He teaches that America is modern Israel; the Americans are the tribe of Ephraim and Great Britain his brother. Mr. Dankinbring is a Church of God Minister and has Triumph Prophetic Ministries.

why people listen to televangelists i'll never know.

 

[Scotth1960]

hi Redster,
the Paula White Perry Stone exchange wasn't the point of the dispensational remark.
the link provided was.
i know and love lots of believers who currently hold some form of dispensational theology because that is what they were taught.
i'm not and am never concerned with the ordinary people who gather at their churches on Sunday who may believe dispensational theology.

i'm talking about the source of it, and the guys that are running it, and to what end.
i'm not sure about how much it'll hurts the sheep in those churches...we'll have to see.
yep brother, just after the truth.
love you
zone

Dear Zone, For a Christian response to dispensationalist error, see: Frazier, T.L. (1999). A Second Look at the Second Coming. Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press. Most of the things coming out of Concilar Press, Ben Lomond, California, are okay. The only book I didn't agree with coming out of Conciliar Press is the one on eschatology/ end times, that borrowed some of its teachings not from the Orthodox Church tradition, but from Protestant dispensationalism, is the following book by Engleman.
Engleman, Dennis E. (1995). Ultimate Things: An Orthodox Christian Perspective on the End Times. Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press.

God bless you.
In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington July 2011 AD

 

[zone]

Dear Zone, For a Christian response to dispensationalist error, see: Frazier, T.L. (1999). A Second Look at the Second Coming. Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press. Most of the things coming out of Concilar Press, Ben Lomond, California, are okay. The only book I didn't agree with coming out of Conciliar Press is the one on eschatology/ end times, that borrowed some of its teachings not from the Orthodox Church tradition, but from Protestant dispensationalism, is the following book by Engleman.
Engleman, Dennis E. (1995). Ultimate Things: An Orthodox Christian Perspective on the End Times. Ben Lomond, CA: Conciliar Press.

God bless you.
In Erie PA USA Scott R. Harrington July 2011 AD

thanks scotty.
ya...thoroughly debunked.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Ok, I have a silly question, but it is a sincere one and NO I will not make fun of you 4runner.

From YOUR perspective, what do you think about Near Death Experiences/Outter Body Experiences?
Does the bible back this up or no?

 

[Megatron]

I have a question....why did the same people that do it to every thread hijack this thread....it was for 4runner's beliefs, not youre petty argument amongst once another. You truly are like swine fighting over scraps of food in slop

 

[Red33]

I have a question....why did the same people that do it to every thread hijack this thread....it was for 4runner's beliefs, not youre petty argument amongst once another. You truly are like swine fighting over scraps of food in slop

4runner has had plenty of questions asked of him and has had more than ample opportunity to respond to every one of them. A few tangents here and there are not going to matter much and as for the swine slopping for scraps of food, you never know if there just might be a pearl in that there slop now do ya. lol

 

[Elizabeth619]

I have a question....why did the same people that do it to every thread hijack this thread....it was for 4runner's beliefs, not youre petty argument amongst once another. You truly are like swine fighting over scraps of food in slop

Stop whining. You're just jealous this thread wasn't made about you. Also, stop stalking me. I am not impressed.

 

[4runner]

Ok, I have a silly question, but it is a sincere one and NO I will not make fun of you 4runner.

From YOUR perspective, what do you think about Near Death Experiences/Outter Body Experiences?
Does the bible back this up or no?

Well I certainly do not believe all near death experiences are genuine, but I do believe there is biblical evidence for atleast one. When you combine the stoning of Paul from Acts, and the vision he had of Heaven in Corinthians. My though is that he had that vision while he was unconscious during that stoning experience, thereby being a near death experience. However i am certainly not dogmatic about it.

 

[4runner]

Originally Posted by Megatron
I have a question....why did the same people that do it to every thread hijack this thread....it was for 4runner's beliefs, not youre petty argument amongst once another. You truly are like swine fighting over scraps of food in slop

Thank you megatron

4runner has had plenty of questions asked of him and has had more than ample opportunity to respond to every one of them. A few tangents here and there are not going to matter much and as for the swine slopping for scraps of food, you never know if there just might be a pearl in that there slop now do ya. lol

Actually it does matter, it matters to me. Furthermmore I think Zone is doing it on purpose because she is a bully. I would ask very kindly that she not post anymore on this thread. Of course I cant make her not, but that will show her lack of respect.

 

[4runner]

Hey 4runner, check out my Noah thread. I would like to hear your thoughts on the matter

I think it is interesting. I think your idea of what the eighth person was is also interesting. I agree with you that the sons of God were not angels or fallen angels, and I also agree with you about what you say about the giants in the land. But I do think the flood was global and literal.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Well I certainly do not believe all near death experiences are genuine, but I do believe there is biblical evidence for atleast one. When you combine the stoning of Paul from Acts, and the vision he had of Heaven in Corinthians. My though is that he had that vision while he was unconscious during that stoning experience, thereby being a near death experience. However i am certainly not dogmatic about it.

You mean the stoning ofd Stephen?

I never looked at that as a near death experience but i can see where you came up with that conclusion

 

[AnandaHya]

how is Jesus glorified daily?

i think he is referring to this passage, Beth:

Acts 14:19
[ Stoning, Escape to Derbe ] Then Jews from Antioch and Iconium came there; and having persuaded the multitudes, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing him to be dead.

 

[4runner]

You mean the stoning ofd Stephen?

I never looked at that as a near death experience but i can see where you came up with that conclusion

No of Paul
Acts 14
19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
20 Howbeit, as the disciples stood round about him, he rose up, and came into the city: and the next day he departed with Barnabas to Derbe.

 

[4runner]

how is Jesus glorified daily?

Through the live of His people.

 

[Elizabeth619]

how is Jesus glorified daily?

i think he is referring to this passage, Beth:

Acts 14:19
[ Stoning, Escape to Derbe ] Then Jews from Antioch and Iconium came there; and having persuaded the multitudes, they stoned Paul and dragged him out of the city, supposing him to be dead.

yeah sorry. blonde moment lol my bad

 

[AnandaHya]

yeah sorry. blonde moment lol my bad

lol I totally understand, like some chocolate? it makes me feel better

 

[zone]

lol I totally understand, like some chocolate? it makes me feel better

he-e-e-e-y....how come there's only 2 cups?