At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?

[Beckworth]

You're right, we're not saved by faith only, we are saved by grace working through faith.

I showed you James is not talking about works saving us but how they justify our faith. Context is everything. James is talking about faith, not salvation. Our salvation is made possible by grace working through faith. Our works justify the validity of our salvation, they do nothing to actually save us.

You are not making sense. You say salvation and Christ's blood must happen at the same time yet also say there is no evidence for it. So how do you see it working out? You have forgiveness (blood applied) but no faith? Or you have faith but no forgiveness. Unless the two are applied in union you do have an oxymoron.

I believe we are just viewing it from different perspectives. Since I do not believe in salvation by faith only, naturally I would believe there are other steps you must take besides faith. Faith is necessary but not faith alone. I’m giving you my understanding of Bible salvation. God commands faith, yes, but God also commands us to repent. That is the first thing the apostle Peter told the Jews when they asked what they must do in Acts 2. He didn’t even tell them to believe—just repent and be baptized. So repentance is commanded Luke 13:3,5; Acts 17:30. Confession is necessary for salvation according to Roman’s 10:8-10. And Baptism is included according to Jesus in mark 16:16. So my question—since all of these things are commanded for salvation, at what point do we come into contact with the blood of Jesus that cleanses us of our sins?? If you say at the point of faith, then we do not need to repent. We are already forgiven Christ’s blood forgives our sins. If you say at the point of repentance then we are not saved by faith only or at the point if faith. We can still believe before repentance, but if repentance saves us we are not saved by faith alone. You can’t have it both ways—saved by faith alone but also saved by repentance and confession. Won’t work. even if you don’t believe in baptism. You are no better off. So faith alone means NO REPENTANCE OR CONFESSION—-to be saved. You can be saved without those regardless of what the Holy Spirit says in Acts 17:30 and Roman’s 10:9-10.

So the original question in this post: when does the Blood of Christ forgive our sins?
I assume from your comments, you believe at the point of faith. Then Can you explain “repentance and “confession” and comment on the scriptures Luke 13:3,5 and Romans 10:10?

 

[mailmandan]

Is it at the point of faith?

Yes. (Acts 10:43; 13:38-39; 26:18)

Satan would have you believe that’ faith” is the “end”, when actually, it is the beginning. Is it when we repent? When we actually “confess” Christ seems like a good place

Satan would have you believe that faith in Christ is insufficient for salvation and since Christ is the OBJECT of our faith in receiving salvation, that would conclude that Christ is insufficient to save us. That's what Satan wants you to believe, so he keeps folks trusting in works for salvation instead. Repentance precedes faith (Acts 20:21) and confession with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically together. (Romans 10:8-10)

We know Jesus shed His blood in His death on the cross. Romans 6:3, God says, Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His DEATH? Therefore, we were buried with Him through baptism into DEATH that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we should also walk in newness of life.”

This is signified in water baptism, but the reality is found in Spirit baptism.

From this scripture, I would say that we come into contact with the blood of Jesus when we are baptized into His death ( where His blood was shed).

"Through His blood" (Colossians 1:14) is a reference not limited to the fluid as if the blood has saving properties in its chemistry and we literally contact it in the waters of baptism but is an expression pointing to the totality of Christ's atoning work as a sacrifice for sin. The word "cross" is used similarly to refer to the whole atoning work of Christ on the cross (1 Corinthians 1:18; Galatians 6:12,14; Ephesians 2:16). We do not literally contact the blood of Christ in the water just as Roman Catholics do not literally contact the blood of Christ in the wine either.

This is in perfect harmony with what Ananias tells Saul in Acts 22:16–“ And now, what are you waiting for? Arise, and be baptized and WASH AWAY YOUR SINS.”

The language in Acts 22:16 is similar to the statement of Christ when He took the bread and said, "This is my body." (Matthew 26:26) The bread was only the emblem of His body. Baptism is the emblem of the washing away of sins by the blood of Christ. Every time a believer is immersed he washes away his sins in the same sense Paul did: not literally, but ceremonially, pointing to the blood of Christ by which sins are actually washed away. (1 John 1:7; Revelation 1:5)

Jamison, Fausset, and Brown Commentary makes not of the importance of the Greek in Ananias' statement. When Ananias tells Paul to "arise, be baptized, wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord," the tense of the last command is literally "having called" (aorist middle participle). "Calling on [epikalesamenos] --- 'having (that is, after having) called on,' referring the confession of Christ which preceded baptism." [Jamison, Fausset, and Brown Commentary, vol. 3 pg. 160].

Kenneth Wuest picks up on this Greek nuance and translates the verse as follows: "And now, why are you delaying? Having arisen, be baptized and wash away your sins, having previously called upon His Name."

Excellent article on Acts 22:16 - https://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2015/03/acts-2216-baptism-essential-for.html

 

[John146]

Romans 3:
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

 

[mailmandan]

I don’t find any scripture that indicates or implies that the blood is applied at the point of faith or belief.

In Ephesians 1:7, we read - In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.

In Romans 3:24-26, we read - being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

Acts 10:43 - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.

Acts 13:38 - Therefore, let it be known to you, brethren, that through this Man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins; 39 and by Him everyone who believes is justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses.

Acts 26:18 - to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. Do you need help connecting the dots?

Probably because we are not saved by “faith only” as James plainly says. So there is no oxymoron. The Bible is consistent with itself—no salvation by faith only and no blood of Jesus applied. James 2:24. The Bible does not contradict itself.

We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) which is not to be confused with "faith only" per James, empty profession of faith/dead faith that remains alone - barren of works.

In James 2:14, we read of one who says/claims (key word) he has faith but has no works (to evidence his claim). That is not genuine faith, but a bare profession of faith. So, when James asks, "Can that faith save him?" he is saying nothing against genuine faith, but only against an empty profession of faith/dead faith. So, James does not teach that we are saved "by" works. His concern is to show the reality of the faith professed by the individual (James 2:18) and demonstrate that the faith claimed (James 2:14) by the individual is genuine. Simple!

In James 2:24, James is not using the word "justified" here to mean "accounted as righteous" but is shown to be righteous. James is discussing the evidence of faith (says-claims to have faith but has no works/I will show you my faith by my works - James 2:14-18) and not the initial act of being accounted as righteous with God. (Romans 4:2-3)

 

[JBTN]

I agree. There is no salvation without the blood of Jesus. So, salvation and the blood of Jesus must happen at the same time.

I don’t find any scripture that indicates or implies that the blood is applied at the point of faith or belief. Probably because we are not saved by “faith only” as James plainly says. So there is no oxymoron. The Bible is consistent with itself—no salvation by faith only and no blood of Jesus applied. James 2:24. The Bible does not contradict itself.

“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV

So we are sealed in him with the Holy Spirit when we hear the gospel and believe in him. Notice it says when we hear the gospel and believe in him. Just a few verses earlier we find this.

“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.7.ESV

If we are sealed in him when we hear the gospel and believe in him then we also have forgiveness through his blood.

 

[studier]

I appreciate you reading this lengthy post and allowing me the opportunity to share what I believe the Bible teaches.

At this point Beckworth, I'm a lot more relaxed than I've ever been with people's views on some Scriptural topics and I appreciate all the work you put forth. I also appreciate anyone who works to stick close to what they actually see in Scripture when they look to be working on it themselves and not parroting what some tradition has told them about this or that doctrine.

Thanks for your response. I'll read it again when I'm more focused.

 

[studier]

At this point Beckworth, I'm a lot more relaxed than I've ever been with people's views on some Scriptural topics and I appreciate all the work you put forth. I also appreciate anyone who works to stick close to what they actually see in Scripture when they look to be working on it themselves and not parroting what some tradition has told them about this or that doctrine.

Thanks for your response. I'll read it again when I'm more focused.

FWIW, "when" is interpretive. Some say "after". Some just translate the participles without adding the temporal interpretation. I'm not analyzing to see what difference it could make. Maybe some. Maybe none.

 

[Kroogz]

Is it at the point of faith? Satan would have you believe that’ faith” is the “end”, when actually, it is the beginning. Is it when we repent? When we actually “confess” Christ seems like a good place

We know Jesus shed His blood in His death on the cross. Romans 6:3, God says, Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His DEATH?Therefore, we were buried with Him through baptism into DEATH that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we should also walk in newness of life.”

From this scripture, I would say that we come into contact with the blood of Jesus when we are baptized into His death ( where His blood was shed).

This is in perfect harmony with what Ananias tells Saul in Acts 22:16–“ And now, what are you waiting for? Arise, and be baptized and WASH AWAY YOUR SINS.”

The sin issue is finished. He reconciled the world to Himself . 2 Cor 5:19.......Not for ours only(believers) but for the whole world 1 John 2:2..

The only reason we can approach God and He can approach us is because SIN IS FINISHED. Christ paid for ALL sin.

What we need is JUSTIFICATION from evil. Sin is finished, but we are evil( Human good.) We try to save ourselves. We try to do "good."

And our good(evil) will never measure up to Christ's perfect life, death and resurrection.


Hence, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved.........

 

[sawdust]

I believe we are just viewing it from different perspectives. Since I do not believe in salvation by faith only, naturally I would believe there are other steps you must take besides faith. Faith is necessary but not faith alone. I’m giving you my understanding of Bible salvation. God commands faith, yes, but God also commands us to repent. That is the first thing the apostle Peter told the Jews when they asked what they must do in Acts 2. He didn’t even tell them to believe—just repent and be baptized. So repentance is commanded Luke 13:3,5; Acts 17:30. Confession is necessary for salvation according to Roman’s 10:8-10. And Baptism is included according to Jesus in mark 16:16. So my question—since all of these things are commanded for salvation, at what point do we come into contact with the blood of Jesus that cleanses us of our sins?? If you say at the point of faith, then we do not need to repent. We are already forgiven Christ’s blood forgives our sins. If you say at the point of repentance then we are not saved by faith only or at the point if faith. We can still believe before repentance, but if repentance saves us we are not saved by faith alone. You can’t have it both ways—saved by faith alone but also saved by repentance and confession. Won’t work. even if you don’t believe in baptism. You are no better off. So faith alone means NO REPENTANCE OR CONFESSION—-to be saved. You can be saved without those regardless of what the Holy Spirit says in Acts 17:30 and Roman’s 10:9-10.

So the original question in this post: when does the Blood of Christ forgive our sins?
I assume from your comments, you believe at the point of faith. Then Can you explain “repentance and “confession” and comment on the scriptures Luke 13:3,5 and Romans 10:10?

We are not viewing it from different perspectives.

If you didn't believe in Christ and then you do believe in Christ you have repented. To repent means to change your mind so you can't believe without repenting so everyone needs to repent, ie change their mind as per Acts 17:30. First the Jew, because they had the Law and prophets and got it all wrong and then the Gentile because they were ignorant of God.

One cannot separate their words or actions from what they truly believe in their heart, hence if one believes in Christ they will confess Him. This is the very thing James is trying to get across in his letter. Repentance and confession are not in addition to faith, they are the consequences of faith just as our works are not in addition to faith but are the consequences of genuine faith. Jesus taught what comes out of the mouth is what's important because it is derived from what is in the heart, the heart being the place where one holds their core values. Matthew 6:21

Paul clarifies Rom.10:10 further in verses 11 and 13.

11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Paul makes no distinction between belief in the heart and verbal confession because they come from the same place, faith.

Faith is more than "I believe". Faith is the word of God working by means of grace in our lives. This is why salvation is by grace working through faith and nothing else. It is all a work of God.

People can believe whatever they want but only Truth (Your word is truth John 17:17) can generate biblical, saving faith.

 

[studier]

ie change their mind as per Acts 17:30. First the Jew, because they had the Law and prophets and got it all wrong and then the Gentile because they were ignorant of God.

Nice to see someone pick this up. Repentance about what at times needs to be picked up in context. It's also interesting that Paul told them to repentant of their ignorance about God and explains it as God has resurrected the Judge.

Faith is more than "I believe".

Just repeating.

One cannot separate their words or actions from what they truly believe in their heart, hence if one believes in Christ they will confess Him

There's actually an issue Jesus dealt with about this which is interesting to compare to Rom10 - John12:35-50 where Jesus also quotes Isaiah as Paul did and deals with belief but a confession issue 12:42.

 

[studier]

“In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭13‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.13.ESV

So we are sealed in him with the Holy Spirit when we hear the gospel and believe in him. Notice it says when we hear the gospel and believe in him. Just a few verses earlier we find this.

“In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬
https://bible.com/bible/59/eph.1.7.ESV

If we are sealed in him when we hear the gospel and believe in him then we also have forgiveness through his blood.

The following was meant to respond to you earlier. Rather, it looks like I was talking to myself (again)!

FWIW, "when" is interpretive. Some say "after". Some just translate the participles without adding the temporal interpretation. I'm not analyzing to see what difference it could make. Maybe some. Maybe none.

 

[PaulThomson]

If you mean being given the Spirit as a “gift” when we are baptized (Acts 2:38), no, not the same as “baptism of the Holy Spirit.” A baptism of the Holy Spirit, as far as I can tell from the scriptures, was miraculous. As in Acts 2 and Acts 10. It was an “outpouring” by God. Those who received it were not praying for it or actively seeking it at the time it was given. It was manifested by “signs” like speaking in tongues. And as far as I can tell, it only occurred twice in the New Testament. Not everyone who got the Holy Spirit got it in a baptismal form. There were different ways to receive the Holy Spirit. The apostles got the Spirit in its miraculous, baptismal form in Acts 2 on the day of Pentecost. They could “pass it on” to someone else by laying their hands on someone. But the persons they laid hands on could NOT pass it on to others. For example, Acts 8, Phillip the evangelist had received the Spirit and could perform miracles. See verses 5 & 6. But they (the Christian’s) had to wait for the apostles Peter and John to come to Samaria from Jerusalem to lay their hands on them and give them the Holy Spirit. See verses 14-17. So we conclude from this that Phillip could not give them the Spirit, even though he had it and could perform miracles. It had to come from an apostle. The last way to receive the Spirit was as a “gift” when anyone is baptized. This is more of an indwelling of the Spirit. As in 1 Cor. 6:19. Paul says that our bodies are the “temple of the Holy Spirit” who is in us, whom we got from God.

So, there were 3 different ways to receive the Holy Spirit: 1) by miraculous baptism, Acts 2 & Acts 10; 2) by the laying on of the apostle’s hands, Acts 8:14-17; and 3) by baptism in the name of Jesus. Acts 2:38.
If there is another way, I don’t know what it is.

I Cor. 14 is a description of the various “gifts” of the Spirit that a person could get from the laying on hands of the apostles. There was the gift of prophecy, revelation, speaking in tongues and performing other kinds of “signs” and miracles; healing, interpretation of tongues, etc. Paul puts regulations on these, especially in the church services. See verses 23 & 26.

Personally, I believe the baptism of fire is a third baptism. A baptism of fire, suffering for the sake of Christ. Jesus was looking forward to His baptism of fire after He had already beem baptised with the Holy Spirit.

Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Luk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished.

 

[Mem]

What is the answer for our sin? I think there is no solution but death. And what is the answer for our life? Again, I think there is no solution but resurrection after death. But dying is just as passive as resurrecting, I think. I mean, does anyone actually have the capability to 'death' themself any more than the capability to resurrect themself? unsure: do not fear man who can kill the body...).

And I think there may be some significance in burial also (It might be argued that no one could bury themselves but discerning what burial is the answer to would help in discerning if there is any spiritual significance to it). Perhaps it is, 'what is the answer for staying dead?'

Anyway, I think it would be hard to argue with very much confidence the ability of doing any of that oneself. Yet, was it Paul that said, in Christ, "we die daily"? So, with God then, indeed, nothing is impossible.

(I find myself often wishing that the thread title were repeated at the bottom of the thread so that I wouldn't have to scroll back up to remember what the relevant topic of the thread was that I began responding to...... At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?)

I'm leaning toward the answer, "At every point that we need we either need (pure) death......or pure life...

 

[Gideon300]

What is the answer for our sin? I think there is no solution but death. And what is the answer for our life? Again, I think there is no solution but resurrection after death. But dying is just as passive as resurrecting, I think. I mean, does anyone actually have the capability to 'death' themself any more than the capability to resurrect themself? unsure: do not fear man who can kill the body...).

And I think there may be some significance in burial also (It might be argued that no one could bury themselves but discerning what burial is the answer to would help in discerning if there is any spiritual significance to it). Perhaps it is, 'what is the answer for staying dead?'

Anyway, I think it would be hard to argue with very much confidence the ability of doing any of that oneself. Yet, was it Paul that said, in Christ, "we die daily"? So, with God then, indeed, nothing is impossible.

(I find myself often wishing that the thread title were repeated at the bottom of the thread so that I wouldn't have to scroll back up to remember what the relevant topic of the thread was that I began responding to...... At what point in our salvation is the blood of Christ applied?)

I'm leaning toward the answer, "At every point that we need we either need (pure) death......or pure life...

I knew that I was forgiven the moment that I accepted Christ. It was like a great weight came off me. The gospel was preached to me thoroughly. All I knew at the time was that I was a sinner and Jesus had paid the price. I think we can make things overly complicated. The reality is that all the sin of all mankind is already paid for. Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. How many of your sins were current when Jesus died? None, of course. The blood reaches back to Adam and forward to the last sin ever to be committed.

God includes us in Christ when we believe. Believe in this sense is not passive, mental acceptance of a fact. I bought a ticket to take my retirement celebration world trip. It was mine, paid in full. But I would not experience it until I got on the plane.

Our death is as certain as the death of Jesus. We need to see this clearly. Then we are able to reckon ourselves dead. "Reckoning" is an accounting term. It's as sure as 2 + 2 = 4. We do not reckon in order to die. We reckon because we know that we are dead.

We are likewise assured of our resurrection with Christ. There are too many scriptures to mention that state that. Galatians 2:20 is just one of many. Feelings are not relevant. We are new creations whether we "feel" new or not.

The other aspect of death is the death to self that every Christian should experience. This is where the will comes in. It is to deny self will, self love and the love of the world. It means to surrender all our "rights", no matter the cost. (2 Corinthians 5:15) This is an ongoing process. The more we reject the demands of self, the more use we will be to God's kingdom.

Every Christian faces a "gethsemene" moment. God will at sometime put His finger on what is most important to us. He will ask us to give it up. And we need, by the grace of God, to say, "Not my will but yours be done". God seeks those who are free to accept whatever He has for us in His will. Sometimes it something we must do, that we really want to avoid. Others it is something to give up. A Chinese believer was about to take final exams to achieve a doctorate in theology. The Lord said to him that He wanted him to not sit the exam. It was a foregone conclusion that he would pass. He wrestled with it, years of study and work at stake. He told his tutor that he would not sit the exam. The tutor thought him mad. The believer was overjoyed because God flooded him with peace and joy at the decision. Paul counted all things as rubbish in order to gain Christ. And that is the cross daily.

 

[TrustandObey]

There is no point in our salvation because we are not saved until the blood is applied for there is no forgiveness apart from His blood. (Ephesians 1:7; Colossians 1:14)

His blood is applied when we are baptized by the Holy Spirit and that occurs when we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. If not, we have ourselves an oxymoron, saved but unforgiven.

You see this as a oxymoron because you accept faith alone regeneration theology.

Faith alone regeneration theology is an assertion based on conjecture, a surmised understanding without even a single proof text.

 

[mailmandan]

Faith alone regeneration theology is an assertion based on conjecture, a surmised understanding without even a single proof text.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence faith alone) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence faith alone) and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

We are saved the moment that we place our faith in Jesus Christ "alone" for salvation. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) That is where "alone" comes in. Not to be confused with an empty profession of faith/dead faith that remains "alone" - barren of works. (James 2:14-24)

 

[TrustandObey]

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence faith alone) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence faith alone) and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

We are saved the moment that we place our faith in Jesus Christ "alone" for salvation. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) That is where "alone" comes in. Not to be confused with an empty profession of faith/dead faith that remains "alone" - barren of works. (James 2:14-24)

You are making my point for me.

If these are your "proof texts" for supporting faith alone regeneration theology then you are surmising the alone part.

You are shoe horning a definitive (alone) into all these verses. Can you not see this?

Would you accept this reasoning on other subjects?

Example:
I walked to the post office.

Would it be proper to assume, (apart from additions or modifications, hence walked alone)?

I doubt you would accept such an assertion.

 

[mailmandan]

You are making my point for me.

If these are your "proof texts" for supporting faith alone regeneration theology then you are surmising the alone part.

You are shoe horning a definitive (alone) into all these verses. Can you not see this?

Would you accept this reasoning on other subjects?

Example:
I walked to the post office.

Would it be proper to assume, (apart from additions or modifications, hence walked alone)?

I doubt you would accept such an assertion.

You really just don't get it, do you? Please explain to me what I mean by salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

 

[LeeLoving]

Acts 10:43 - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.

Does this mean that Jesus died to take the punishment for our sins and that anyone who believe in him is forgiven of all their sins because Jesus took the punishment for them? Or is it saying that if you believe that he died to take the punishment for our sins then you are forgiven them? Awhile back someone on here told me that you have to believe on Jesus' name to be saved, basically all the things about him that are true and not just in him, so I'm just trying to figure out what this verse is saying. (feel free to ignore)

 

[TrustandObey]

You really just don't get it, do you?

Oh, I get it.

I have met many who push faith alone regeneration theology, you are no different.

A theology based on broad assumptions and not one biblical proof text.

A theology based on a line of reasoning you would never use on any other subject.

Please explain to me what I mean by salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

I feel no need to respond to this question since:
1. You have not given me the courtesy of answering my question.
2. Why should I explain to you what you "mean by salvation through faith".
3. It does not matter what you think is meant by "faith" since biblical it is not by faith alone.