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megaman125
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IntotheVoid, if you're wondering why I have such a negative view of atheists, it's becuase most atheists I find are like RowdyRoddy.
Atheist mega-"churches"
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Says the guy who went to an atheist forum boasting about his Bible contradiction abilities.
I'm insulted you would label me as such. I'm a Pastafarian.
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megaman125
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The only thing you managed to do in all of that was prove the Bible to be true (not that it needed any more verification).
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Bryancampbell
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What is death, and what is life if there is no spirit? Just some random spark that fades in and out throughout the universe? I'm surprised objects haven't came to "life" by accident by that theory...
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Bryancampbell
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Show me pictures, explain scientific explanations, but it still won't prove anything. I'm still curious how we can pick up pictures from so far, still haven't found an answer to that, the distance would cut off communication. What makes your point valid in this response?
LOL I get your point. I think he likes you though. He went through a lot of trouble to find things out about you.
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megaman125
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True, but given the way he treats Christians, I don't take that as a sign of him liking me. I find it more creepy. Well, at least my name is megamaster125 (or megaman125 on here). Another funny thing is I've heard of some people spotting me on other places of the internet, but not places I've gone to. I'm not even sure if it's someone intentionally pretending to be me or we just happen to have the same name by coincidence. Hey Rowdy, if you still want to be a stalker, why don't you find all the sites with a megamaster125, then at least I'll know where other people are using my username.
Cycel said:
You are making the same error as Wanderer. The scientific explanation of star and planet formation is accepted by millions of Christians. It's not an atheist explanation at all. It is a scientific explanation. I am asking you to explain on what grounds you are rejecting these two scientific hypotheses? Why do you believe they are not plausible? Do you reject them on principle alone (that is because you think they contradict the biblical view) or do you have some other explanation? Can you detail your position on this?
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I've met many rabid, hate-fuelled atheists on the Internet but very few offline. I enjoy discussions with atheists who are respectful and open to intelligent discussion (like you Cycel). I have no time for stupid teenagers (or adults) who troll just to rile up Christians.
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But no matter how absent it is, it cannot overshadow, or over dominate light. Unlike the colors black and white, one side is dominant no matter how great it is. So, how great is that light???
When a figure skater is spinning and pulls in her arms, her speed of rotation increases. This is an example of conservation of angular momentum. How does conservation of angular momentum prevent planets and stars from forming naturally? Planets orbiting closer to the sun have increased angular momentum over more distant planets -- just as the theory predicts. What's the problem with your understanding?
Why do you reject the natural formation of stars and planets? Give me your real reason now.
Thanks for your comment Tintin. I suspect, however, that maturity plays a part. When I was younger I was more arrogant. That was before I realized the other side had things to teach me.
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Bryancampbell
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We can learn something from this, now thinking about it. What do we know in basic terms about light?:
It is dependent on a form of energy to radiate.
It casts out any form of darkness.
It reveals the scene of an environment all around.
It creates heat and stabilizes life.
This is remarkable, since I see a symbolism in creation pointing to God, and following Him.
What do we know about darkness, the absence of light?:
It depends on nothing.
It flees and hides when light draws near it.
You cannot see anything with it, total blindness.
Lack of light means lack of heat and life, just like space.
Remarkable how that points to those who depend on anything other than the light.
It is dependent on a form of energy to radiate.
It casts out any form of darkness.
It reveals the scene of an environment all around.
It creates heat and stabilizes life.
This is remarkable, since I see a symbolism in creation pointing to God, and following Him.
What do we know about darkness, the absence of light?:
It depends on nothing.
It flees and hides when light draws near it.
You cannot see anything with it, total blindness.
Lack of light means lack of heat and life, just like space.
Remarkable how that points to those who depend on anything other than the light.
I disagree. There is nothing dominant about light over darkness. When we experience light we are simply detecting photons striking the photo receptor cells of our retina. In a dark room there simply are no photons of a frequency we can detect. Deadly cosmic rays might be streaming through the room, but we'd never see them. If our eyes were sensitive to the high frequency cosmic rays the room would appear bright.
Your phrase, "no matter how absent it is, it cannot overshadow, or over dominate light" doesn't really make any sense to my mind. If photons of a frequency your eyes can detect are not present where you are then you will think you are surrounded by darkness. If the same room was filled with ultra violet light many insects would buzz around thinking they were in bright surroundings, but you would see only darkness.
Perhaps you could explain further what you mean?
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Bryancampbell
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No need to explain, you just stated that light exist only through our retina. You are explaining how we perceive it, not how it is there. Whether I can see light or not, doesn't change the fact it's there. I'm sorry, but I hope you don't also believe that color only exist through exposure to light, because that doesn't make sense either. A flower doesn't have eyes, but it grows towards the sun. A seed grows out where light is exposed, and it can't see it. When you talk about our perception, you just downgraded science.
Bryan, darkness is simply the absence of photon frequencies the photo sensitive cells of your retina can detect. Saying darkness depends on nothing is like saying silence depends on nothing. It's like saying sound chases away silence. It makes no sense. Sound is simply frequency vibrations traveling through the air that are detectable to our ears, and light is simply photons that are delectable to our eyes. Other species have far better detection systems than we do.
Bryan, the Bible may say this somewhere, but it is simply poetry. It means nothing, unfortunately.Bryancampbell said:
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There is just as much light on the moon as there is here on earth. So you're statement's not taking something into account. The moon is missing an atmosphere. We need a lot more than just light to survive on this world.Bryancampbell said:
I don't know what you mean.Bryancampbell said:
I never said otherwise. Read what I wrote once again. You have not understood.
I am saying this earlier statement of yours (the one above) does not make much sense. This is what I was responding to.Bryancampbell said:
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Bryancampbell
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Bryan, darkness is simply the absence of photon frequencies the photo sensitive cells of your retina can detect. Saying darkness depends on nothing is like saying silence depends on nothing. It's like saying sound chases away silence. It makes no sense. Sound is simply frequency vibrations traveling through the air that are detectable to our ears, and light is simply photons that are delectable to our eyes. Other species have far better detection systems than we do.
Cycel, you keep talking about the retina. Light isn't just perception of the eye, it's perception in general. To say only random heat waves leave from the sun if we are all bind doesn't stand. Light casts out darkness, our retina doesn't disqualify light. lack of sound is levels of silence cycel. It makes perfect sense. If light and sound were just something only we can pick up through our ears and eyes, then it's labeled as an artificial force of energy. Energy doesn't split itself through human perception, sound doesn't spilt through lack of hearing. Sound can shatter glass, light can fry earthenware.
Bryan, the Bible may say this somewhere, but it is simply poetry. It means nothing, unfortunately.
It's only poetry if you don't know what I'm saying lol. I hope when you reread your message again, you will see what I mean. I spoke in literal terms to the physical world to help you understand.
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Shadow creates coolness, light produces heat. Total blindness (in the sense of seeing) where light lacks.
There is just as much light on the moon as there is here on earth. So you're statement's not taking something into account. The moon is missing an atmosphere. We need a lot more than just light to survive on this world.
This I didn't understand. The moon reflects the sun's light correct? Basic terms cycel, I was listing basic, with or without atmosphere, darkness cannot sustain life. You know that.
I don't know what you mean.
It's poetry if you don't understand.
Cycel, you keep talking about the retina. Light isn't just perception of the eye, it's perception in general. To say only random heat waves leave from the sun if we are all bind doesn't stand. Light casts out darkness, our retina doesn't disqualify light. lack of sound is levels of silence cycel. It makes perfect sense. If light and sound were just something only we can pick up through our ears and eyes, then it's labeled as an artificial force of energy. Energy doesn't split itself through human perception, sound doesn't spilt through lack of hearing. Sound can shatter glass, light can fry earthenware.
Bryan, the Bible may say this somewhere, but it is simply poetry. It means nothing, unfortunately.
It's only poetry if you don't know what I'm saying lol. I hope when you reread your message again, you will see what I mean. I spoke in literal terms to the physical world to help you understand.
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Shadow creates coolness, light produces heat. Total blindness (in the sense of seeing) where light lacks.
There is just as much light on the moon as there is here on earth. So you're statement's not taking something into account. The moon is missing an atmosphere. We need a lot more than just light to survive on this world.
This I didn't understand. The moon reflects the sun's light correct? Basic terms cycel, I was listing basic, with or without atmosphere, darkness cannot sustain life. You know that.
I don't know what you mean.
It's poetry if you don't understand.
Bryan, what are you referencing here? Are you, for example, talking about some of the images taken by the HST?