"Basic Distinctions Between Prophecy And Mystery"?

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Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:
Things That Differ!


{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!”
Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(
1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(
Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(
Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(
Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(
Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(
Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(
Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(
Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(
Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(
Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(
Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart
Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄


Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(
Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)


--------------------------------------------

Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

----------------------------------------------------

I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

+

B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE
Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(
Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(
Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(
Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(
Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
(
Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
-----------------------------------------------------
probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:

Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
-----------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
-----------------------------------------------


Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)
You have happened on two aspects of the same thing, the people of God--different but not the same.
 

GRACE_ambassador

Well-known member
Feb 22, 2021
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#22
Precious friends:

The first 18 'differences' of prophecy vs Mystery are here: Distinctions,
and Updates of # 19, # 20, # 21, # 22, and # 23:

Update:

24) sabbath-keeping?

In God's Context Of prophecy / covenants / law for earthly Israel:
(Genesis - John - Acts 8 - Hebrews - Revelation AV)

Yes, sabbath-keeping was required for Israel; a 'sign' between
them and God:

"Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily My​
sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between Me and you​
throughout your generations; that ye may know that I AM​
The LORD that doth sanctify you." (Exodus 31:13 AV)​
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

24) In God's Other Context Of:

Mystery and Grace For The Heavenly Body Of Christ:​
(Acts 9 - Romans -Philemon AV)​

No, sabbath-keeping is not required for The Body Of Christ:

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth​
every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.​
He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto The Lord; and he that​
regardeth not the day, to The Lord he doth not regard it."​
(Romans 14:5)​
+
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect​
of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which​
are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."​
(Colossians 2:16-17 AV)​

Amen.

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Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
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#23
I see you have probably read chapter 2 of Cornelius R Stam book, "Things that differ"?
That's probably true. Stam was a Hyper-Dispensationalist (as was Bullinger) and Grace Ambassador loves their teachings. Only Paul was given insight into the "mysteries" hidden from the OT prophets. They all pertain to Christ and His Church, but one mystery pertains to the present "blindness in part" of Israel.

But Hyper-Dispensationalists reject the necessity of Christian baptism by immersion. And that is a major error. Proper Dispensationalism does not do so. Bullingerism is rather misleading, and it all started with him.
 

Adino

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Sep 15, 2024
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#24
Dispensationalism is a reprehensible theology that has led to an unrivaled explosion of sectarianism, an unrivaled history of false teachers, an unrivaled history of no accountability, and it is incompatible with historical, orthodox Christian thought, doctrine, and practice.
 

Rob7

New member
Jul 17, 2021
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9
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#25
Grace And Peace, Precious friends. The following may or may not be helpful.
However, thanks for your Consideration, and, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed in:

Basic {and more} Distinctions of Prophecy vs Mystery:

First, Some Similarities: The LORD JESUS CHRIST, love of HIM, And
love of our neighbor!

LORD JESUS, please Grant us all Your Divine Help in our understanding of:
Things That Differ!


{ RDf = Rightly Divided from }:

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom (past/future)

(1) Concerns a kingdom: a political organization
(Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10 KJB!)

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!) From Things That DIFFER!:

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!
(Current = “But NOW!”
Romans 3:21, 7:6, 16: 26; Ephesians 2:13 et al KJB!):

(1) Concerns A Body, HIS Church; a Living Organism
(
1 Corinthians 12:12, 27; Ephesians 4:12-16 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(2) The kingdom to be established on earth
(Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 6:10!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(2) The Body {Church} Given a position in Heaven!
(
Ephesians 1:3, 2:5-6; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(3) Christ to be its King (Jeremiah 23:5; Isaiah 9:6-7 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(3) CHRIST Is The Living Head Of HIS Body, The Church!
(
Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(4) The kingdom prophesied “since the world began”
(Luke 1:68-70; Acts 3:21 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(4) The Body Chosen In CHRIST "before the world
began," But “kept secret since the world began!”
(
Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:4-11, 3:5-9 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(5) Israel to be given supremacy over the nations
(Isaiah 60:10-12, 61:6 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(5) Jew and Gentile placed on the same level before God!
(
Romans 10:12, 11:32; Ephesians 2:16-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(6)The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s instrumentality
(Genesis 22:17-18; Zechariah 8:13 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(6) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s obstinancy!
(
Acts 13:44-46, Romans 11:28-32 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(7) The Gentiles to be blessed by Israel’s rise
(Isaiah 60:1-3; Zechariah 8:22-23 KJB!)
RDf:

The Mystery:
(7) The Gentiles blessed through Israel’s fall!
(
Acts 28:27-28; Romans 11:11, 12, 15 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(8) Prophecy mainly concerns nations as such
(Isaiah 2:4; Ezekiel 37:21-22 KJB!)
RDf

The Mystery:
(8) The Mystery Concerns individuals!
(
Romans 10:12-13; 2 Corinthians 5:14-17 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(9) Prophecy concerns blessings, both material and spiritual, on earth
(Isaiah 2:3-4, 11:1-9!; et al KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(9) The Mystery Concerns “all spiritual blessings in The Heavenlies”
(
Ephesians 1:3; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy:
(10) Prophecy concerns Christ’s Coming To the earth
(
Isaiah 59:20; Zechariah 14:4 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(10) The Mystery Explains CHRIST’s Absence From the earth!
(
Ephesians 1:20-24; Colossians 3:1-3 KJB!)

Prophecy: gospel of The Kingdom!:
(11) In prophecy, salvation by Grace through faith alone is Not contemplated
(Matthew 28:19-20, 23:1-3; Luke 7:29-30; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; James 2:17 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery: *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!!:*
(11) Salvation “By GRACE Through faith” Alone lies at The Very
Heart
Of The Mystery! (Romans 3:21-26, 4:5; Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB!) ◄


Prophecy:
(12) The proclamation of the prophetic program committed particularly
to the TWELVE (Matthew 10:5-7; Acts 1:6-8, 3:19-26 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(12) The proclamation of The Mystery program committed particularly
to ONE: Paul! (Ephesians 3:1-3, 8-9; Colossians 1:24-27 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(13) The prophetic program revealed through Many of God’s servants
(Luke 1:70; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(13) The Mystery Revealed Through ONE man: Paul!
(Galatians 1:1, 11-12, 2:2, 7, 9; Ephesians 3:2-3 KJB!)


Prophecy:
(14) Old Testament writers frequently did not
understand the prophecies made through them!
(
Daniel 12:8-10; 1 Peter 1:10-12 KJB!)
RDf


The Mystery:
(14) Paul Both understood And longed that others might
understand The Mystery CHRIST Revealed Through him!
(Ephesians 1:15-23, 3:14-21; Colossians 1:9-10, 2:1-3 KJB!)


--------------------------------------------

Be RICHLY Blessed!

Basic Distinctions between Prophecy and the Mystery! (C.R. Stam)

----------------------------------------------------

I have further compiled More Distinctions In God's TWO Different Programs!:

Prophecy/Law:
(15) The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 KJB!)

+

B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out
By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(15) Only ONE
Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!
(
Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; Romans 6:3-4;
1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(16) Forgive others FIRST, THEN God Will Forgive!
(Matthew 6:14-15, 18:35; Mark 11:25-26; Luke 6:37 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(16) Forgive others BECAUSE CHRIST Has Already FORGIVEN us!
(
Ephesians 4:32 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
RDf


Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(
Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":

(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(
Romans 8:26 KJB!)

Prophecy/Law { earthly! }:
18) "watchmen," { as CHRIST Told the Jews On the earth! }, looking for
The "wicked one, the deceiving man of SIN" And "signs" (Matthew 24 KJB!)
RDf

Mystery/GRACE { Heavenly! }!:
(18) ambassadors { As CHRIST Told Paul, From Heaven! }
LOOKING, WATCHING, And WAITING For! = The Holy One,
The LORD JESUS CHRIST {From Heaven! }
(
Romans 8:18, 19, 23, 25; 1 Corinthians 1:7; Ephesians 6:12-18;
Philippians 3:20; Colossians 3:2, 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:5-11;
2 Thessalonians 3:5; Titus 2:13 KJB! )
-----------------------------------------------------
probably more… But, sorry, for all the views of prophecy/Mystery =
only ONE gospel, and, Peter and Paul “preached” The SAME thing?:

Conclusion:

“things that are Different are just Not The SAME,” correct?
-----------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You For All Your Divine Help
in our understanding of Things That Differ!
-----------------------------------------------


Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth!”
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)
 

Rob7

New member
Jul 17, 2021
6
9
3
Middle Tennessee
#26
Hello, Thanks for the "welcome back"
I downloaded your PDF on dispensationalism and thank you for it. I'm relatively new to following the Truth, Christ, His Way, to His Life and have been studying the differences between this Dispensation theology and the "religion" of Christ and His Disciples... Bible Truth, ... as well as how modern traditional orthodox Christianity has changed from what the followers of Christ and the protestant reformers in the past 1800 years, pre-1800 believed and taught.
Thank You & Have a Blessed Day
 
Sep 15, 2024
5
3
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#27
Hello, Thanks for the "welcome back"
I downloaded your PDF on dispensationalism and thank you for it. I'm relatively new to following the Truth, Christ, His Way, to His Life and have been studying the differences between this Dispensation theology and the "religion" of Christ and His Disciples... Bible Truth, ... as well as how modern traditional orthodox Christianity has changed from what the followers of Christ and the protestant reformers in the past 1800 years, pre-1800 believed and taught.
Thank You & Have a Blessed Day
As you read that pdf, do so with your Bible in hand and open. Look for examples of scripture itself dividing itself up into dispensations.

When you cannot find scripture doing that then realize the entire construct of Dispensationalism is man-made AND man-made in the undeniable face of scripture's silence of that practice. You'll find the word "oikonomia" used in the New Testament, but you will not find it as a term scripture uses to divide itself chronologically. The term scripture does use to mark its passage is "covenant," so notice how Dispensationalism variously accommodate and opposes the covenantal structure scripture itself provides (I am not referring to Covenant Theology). Keep in mind one more thing because Dispensationalists speak/write of "Dispensationalism," but they mean Dispensational Premillennialism. What this means is that every time you read any Dispensationalist's mention of "Dispensationalism" without the premillennialism also mentioned they are committing a lie of omission.

I know what I wrote is blunt and critical. No disrespect of offense is intended. The above are the objectively verifiable facts of Dispensational Premillennialism, but they typically go unreported in Dispensationalist writings.
 
Feb 22, 2021
3,268
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113
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#28
Hello, Thanks for the "welcome back"
I downloaded your PDF on dispensationalism and thank you for it. I'm relatively new to following the Truth, Christ, His Way, to His Life and have been studying the differences between this Dispensation theology and the "religion" of Christ and His Disciples... Bible Truth, ... as well as how modern traditional orthodox Christianity has changed from what the followers of Christ and the protestant reformers in the past 1800 years, pre-1800 believed and taught.
Thank You & Have a Blessed Day
Precious @Rob7, your Are Very Welcome! 35 years ago, when I was part of denominational
Confusion, this precious Word Of Truth came to my attention ( God Knows How To Do That, eh?).

I did then, and still do today, with my precious Bible in hand, study prayerfully and carefully, and
despite all the accusations of heresy and discouraging criticisms, This Word Of Truth Still Solves
all of the Confusion I ever had.

I Praise God For this daily, and hope This will Very Richly Encourage and Edify you also
(as God Has Done for so many of us students of His Holy Word) as you review It In Christ.

Amen.