1. speak to your Pastor
2. get prayer from the elders at your church or find a bible believing church
3. read the word of God and be discipled
4. Accept God's word, have faith that God forgives, and move on.
Be honest with me, am I going to hell forever or not?
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2. get prayer from the elders at your church or find a bible believing church
3. read the word of God and be discipled
4. Accept God's word, have faith that God forgives, and move on.
If you strongly believe there is no hope, then why are you here asking questions?
When Jesus' disciples asked him "who can be saved," He replied, "with men, it is impossible, but with God it is possible."
In another place, they asked Him "increase our faith." Have you asked God for these basic things?
So faith comes from God to us. I agree that there is no hope for you, if you try all by your lonesome. I've been in the same boat. That's why we have to trust Christ with all we are. He is the savior, not us. Do you trust God's integrity? Does God have integrity in your estimation? If He makes a general promise to mankind, such as "whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved," do you trust God that these words have integrity?
What follows that is, if you understand that Jesus told us the truth about God and the nature of our relationship with Him, then can you trust His words enough to follow them? Jesus said "My yoke is easy, and My burden light." There is a point at which we have to stop striving and rest in the fact that Jesus promised to save, and that's all there is to it.
But if you're bound and determined to declare yourself hopeless, then what's the reason for the exercise?
You need to get your head out of your butt because not everyone is destined to salvation especially with the attitude that you are displaying ( seeking pity, giving up praying, lack of faith, etc.).
You stated, "One day, I was having these thoughts and I had some doubts and I actually believed one of these blasphemous thoughts about what the pharisees said about Jesus's miracles when they accused him of demonic power and I tried to rebuke it from my heart but it was too late." If you had faith in the God of the Bible, why would you believe that Jesus' miracles were performed through demonic power instead of the power of God through His Holy Spirit? God judges the heart of man and if you are stuck on a time of your ignorance where you entertained such perverted thoughts, it doesn't look good for you. I have to assume that you really were never born again. How do you " rebuke it from your heart"? The devil is constantly bombarding Christians with evil thoughts that the Christian recognizes as coming from Satan. We can not be held responsible for having them. What we are held responsible for is believing them and not dismissing them. I truely believe that you are on the road to recovery because I see the repentance needed for salvation. Now you have to totally put your trust on the love of God , Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. If you've given up on praying to God for His help, and I don't judge, but it doesn't look good for you. Prove yourself to God and persevere by continuing in prayer and having faith in His love.
Brother, you don't have to be rude. I really tried to stop those thoughts from coming to me but I messed up extremely hard. I just wish I never existed. I have to look forward to eternal hell...
My intent was not to be rude, but to wake you up into not giving up on yourself and trusting God's love by continuing to pray for His Holy Spirit to give you the strength, faith, and confidence that you seek. What thoughts are coming to you. Please explain. Is it fear?
I still believe that this may not work. I believed that I must have messed up my chances of getting into heaven forever. But I heard good advice: wether or not I am doomed to hell, continue to serve Christ and warn others not to make the same mistakes like me.
Now I know that there is still hope for you. I will pray for you as well. God bless you brother.
So, the way that this encounter with the Pharisees reads, when isolated, it can kind of seem like the Pharisees have a point-
The pharisees are supposing that Satan is doing a "false flag operation" in Jesus in order to trick them into worshipping him instead of God- and on the surface it doesn't seem like unreasonable skepticism. Why can't a villain call off his henchmen to make himself look like a hero?
Jesus' reply- a house divided cannot stand- doesn't really seem to address what they are saying, so, you might find yourself confused, or even agreeing that the Pharisees have a point here.
But in context- they actually don't have a point at all; because Jesus had done a lot more miracles and works- he didnt just cast out demons. If he cast out demons by Satan, did he also feed thousands of people by Satan? Or did he heal lepers instantaneously by Satan?
And if he was doing all those things by Satan.... they would have no basis to trust any miracle that has ever happened, because those could be Satan too: so the pharisees are just being ridiculous. Jesus defied their expectations, and they were going to absurd lengths to hold onto their expectations.
Sometimes the bible, or bad translations, or your own imagination can throw your understanding a curveball- and I believe to a point that God WANTS it that way, because we are supposed to be pressing forward in FAITH even when our understanding fails.
The pharisees are supposing that Satan is doing a "false flag operation" in Jesus in order to trick them into worshipping him instead of God- and on the surface it doesn't seem like unreasonable skepticism. Why can't a villain call off his henchmen to make himself look like a hero?
Jesus' reply- a house divided cannot stand- doesn't really seem to address what they are saying, so, you might find yourself confused, or even agreeing that the Pharisees have a point here.
But in context- they actually don't have a point at all; because Jesus had done a lot more miracles and works- he didnt just cast out demons. If he cast out demons by Satan, did he also feed thousands of people by Satan? Or did he heal lepers instantaneously by Satan?
And if he was doing all those things by Satan.... they would have no basis to trust any miracle that has ever happened, because those could be Satan too: so the pharisees are just being ridiculous. Jesus defied their expectations, and they were going to absurd lengths to hold onto their expectations.
Sometimes the bible, or bad translations, or your own imagination can throw your understanding a curveball- and I believe to a point that God WANTS it that way, because we are supposed to be pressing forward in FAITH even when our understanding fails.
The holy spirit left me months ago like months ago I feel so numb no remorse no conviction no guilt no worries no fear no nothing like a zombie n yet I kept sinning more wen he try 2 give me a dream it's a done deal
In order to blaspheme the Holy Spirit in this way- you pretty much have to have decided that good is evil, and evil is good- you decide that you really love sin, you despise the chastisement of the Lord, and you want him to take a hike.
If you were this far-gone you wouldn't want to retain God in your knowledge, let alone come here looking for help. You'd be an athiest, a witch, or into some new age junk by now.
If you were this far-gone you wouldn't want to retain God in your knowledge, let alone come here looking for help. You'd be an athiest, a witch, or into some new age junk by now.
When people are trying to come to God, or have already come to God, one of the first things Satan wants to do is make people think they’re unforgivable.
Some possible accusations people will be confronted with are blasphemy of the Holy Spirit first, then onto lesser but nevertheless more grievous sins; basically anything to make you doubt you’re forgiven.
If you can get past that, the next thing Satan may do is find ways to make you believe that God hates you, or God does not accept/welcome you, will not allow you into His kingdom, hates your prayers, is grieved by your prayers, etc.
Next, it could include attacks against your finances, property, family, etc.
That was my experience when I first came to Christ.
OP, have no fear. If God be for us, who can be against us? Quite frankly, no one can be against us. So be strong, courageous, and muster the faith to overcome your test. There will likely be more tests after this one, but now is the time to work on being stronger. If you want support, I’m here.
Praying for you.
Some possible accusations people will be confronted with are blasphemy of the Holy Spirit first, then onto lesser but nevertheless more grievous sins; basically anything to make you doubt you’re forgiven.
If you can get past that, the next thing Satan may do is find ways to make you believe that God hates you, or God does not accept/welcome you, will not allow you into His kingdom, hates your prayers, is grieved by your prayers, etc.
Next, it could include attacks against your finances, property, family, etc.
That was my experience when I first came to Christ.
OP, have no fear. If God be for us, who can be against us? Quite frankly, no one can be against us. So be strong, courageous, and muster the faith to overcome your test. There will likely be more tests after this one, but now is the time to work on being stronger. If you want support, I’m here.
Praying for you.
That sounds like unbelief or lack of faith, that is a root of all kinds of problems.
What we say can come to pass, He gave us free will, to the point we each have the power to reject Him in relationship, to our loss and for eternity.
Problems down here are never from His end.
What we say can come to pass, He gave us free will, to the point we each have the power to reject Him in relationship, to our loss and for eternity.
Problems down here are never from His end.
No, not maybe
. He does. He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. (heb 11:6)
See, believing in his goodness and goodwill towards you, is just as important as believing he exists.