Becomes Trump a dictator?

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ZNP

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I thought Trump was offering to keep them on provided they were prepared to go after real criminals illegally crossing the border, rather than harassing hard-working Americans of their sustenance?
This article was published 4pm yesterday. It is very hard to know what is what at this point with things happening fast and furious.
 

wolfwint

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Well, in this case it’s very difficult for me to find the truth about this situation (ADF).
I would have to live in Germany for a year or two so I can understand your culture and politics and regions and then be able to tell if ADF is as Wikipedia says or not.

This is why I told you earlier that you don’t live in USA so you can understand the social and political dynamics here.

For Meloni in Italy though, I can tell you that Wikipedia is wrong!
I know Italy, I have lived there, I have family and friends there who I keep in touch with in Whatsup and I know the language and culture.

I also know that liberals call anyone a Nazi or a Mussolini when they are faced with common sense topics such as legal immigration and putting their country first, which is what Meloni wants to do.

I don’t know what your ADF party wants to do so that’s why I can’t tell if Wikipedia is right or wrong.
You are right about the culture. But I can have a picture from the statements people do, independ from the culture. So in case of the statements from the US VP it wonders me that an American Official is calling people to vote a Party which Americans 80 years ago germany freed from.
Its the same if people tell you to support the KKK.
 

Eli1

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You are right about the culture. But I can have a picture from the statements people do, independ from the culture. So in case of the statements from the US VP it wonders me that an American Official is calling people to vote a Party which Americans 80 years ago germany freed from.
Its the same if people tell you to support the KKK.
If ADF is on the same level as KKK then yeah, it'd be wrong to support them.
But like i said, for now i'm taking your word for it and you do seem a bit on the left-side of the politics to me but i could be wrong.
But no modern politician in US (who is serious about their career) supports KKK so i don't know what to make of your statement.

The overall point is that the western hemisphere is going through a confusing phase with the woke virus so it's time for a shower.
 

PaulThomson

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I certainly think he'd like to be a dictator; along with his buddy Elon. That seems to be the direction things are going. The guy pardoned over 1,000 violent J6 rioters on his first day in office. They didn't express remorse, but seem to be anxious to do it all again. That pretty much says it all.

What he's doing isn't normal for the US. He's testing the waters to see how much he can get away with, whether it's legal or not. I'm not as worried about Trump as I am about the people in Washington who have the power to do something about it. If they don't step up and soon I'm afraid we're all going to be very sorry.
Almost all of them were not violent, actually. They simply were convicted of interfering with the certifiction process by being present and accepting an implicit police invitation to tour the capitol. Very few of the 1000+ J6 prisoners committed any violence. I would have thought US citizens would want government corruption, fraud and waste to be uncovered and stopped... and most do. But not you?
 

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ZNP

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You used the pronoun "you" in your post to me. Grammatically, that means I was included. I asked you to find the post I wrote that said as you stated. Either find the post, or admit your error.
Yes, I would also like to see the post that Cameron143 is alleged to have written. Dude653 has a history on this forum of lying, slandering and libeling others on this forum, accusing them of saying things they didn't say. When challenged he tries to run away. This has become a recurring pattern.
 
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If ADF is on the same level as KKK then yeah, it'd be wrong to support them.
But like i said, for now i'm taking your word for it and you do seem a bit on the left-side of the politics to me but i could be wrong.
But no modern politician in US (who is serious about their career) supports KKK so i don't know what to make of your statement.

The overall point is that the western hemisphere is going through a confusing phase with the woke virus so it's time for a shower.
I am not left. And I am not woke. Would i live in the US I would support the rep. But not people like D.Trump.
Finaly it is God who Set the governments in for His purpose with the world.

Of course the example with the KKK is little to extrem. But no other example came into my mind.
With the german background of Nazi Germany 80 years ago it is a no go to vote for a Party which stands partly to the Nazi Ideologie. As follower of Christ.
Well the agenda and statements of the AFD is the reason, because no other german Party will be in company with the AFD.
 

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I am not left. And I am not woke. Would i live in the US I would support the rep. But not people like D.Trump.
Finaly it is God who Set the governments in for His purpose with the world.

Of course the example with the KKK is little to extrem. But no other example came into my mind.
With the german background of Nazi Germany 80 years ago it is a no go to vote for a Party which stands partly to the Nazi Ideologie. As follower of Christ.
Well the agenda and statements of the AFD is the reason, because no other german Party will be in company with the AFD.
Believe me, there are plenty of people in the US who sympathize with Hitler and the Nazis; a lot of them were among the J6 rioters who Donald pardoned. You can also find them on social media, notably X (owned by Musk). There's a video of Musk giving a Nazi salute; it's easy to find on the web.
 

shittim

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That supposed salute has been completely debunked.
Only a depraved person would fall for that claptrap.
 

Eli1

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I am not left. And I am not woke. Would i live in the US I would support the rep. But not people like D.Trump.
Finaly it is God who Set the governments in for His purpose with the world.

Of course the example with the KKK is little to extrem. But no other example came into my mind.
With the german background of Nazi Germany 80 years ago it is a no go to vote for a Party which stands partly to the Nazi Ideologie. As follower of Christ.
Well the agenda and statements of the AFD is the reason, because no other german Party will be in company with the AFD.
You say this because you’re NOT in USA.
Because if you were in USA and if you were a true independent you would support Trump.
Many independents here do.
Even people like Bernie Sanders who’s considered a “socialist” by American standards has harshly criticized the Democratic Party for their insane ideas and being out of touch with the people.
Trump is a natural response to the insane ideology pushed by the left, so the people naturally reacted to this ideology by electing Trump and other branches of government with Republican support.
People are tired of the left basically.
The latest performance of the Democratic Party as I mentioned to you earlier and I sent a link, also confirms that the Dems are in for a long haul denial which means that the conservatives will keep winning because the left is out of touch.


I think that you still may not be understanding that you have to live in USA to understand these things because you’re speaking with confidence like you know these things, while I’m being honest with you when I say that I don’t know anything about German politics or you adf party

I can also detect that you also mix politics with God which is what a lot of American Christians do but that’s another subject and I don’t want to add more confusion when we have a language and cultural barrier.
 

Eli1

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That supposed salute has been completely debunked.
Only a depraved person would fall for that claptrap.
lol you mean only a person with TDS?
These folks are fun to watch.
We have great seats for the next 4 years.
 

Cameron143

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Yes, I would also like to see the post that Cameron143 is alleged to have written. Dude653 has a history on this forum of lying, slandering and libeling others on this forum, accusing them of saying things they didn't say. When challenged he tries to run away. This has become a recurring pattern.
I thought of you as I was posting in that he has done similar things to you.