Becomes Trump a dictator?

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Dude653 said:
The president can try to negotiate for their release but other than that I don't see what else can be done unless you just say you're going to comply or we're going to turn Gaza into a parking lot
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Doesn't that same logic apply to the man in El Salvador? If the President doesn't want to return him what is Trump supposed to do?
 
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wolfwint said:
Because the President is no shopowner. According my understanding from a President he has to lead the nation under the point to do the best for the nation.
Of course free speech has his Limits. But is it not a human right?
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Who is the President taking free speech rights from?
What is the President doing that isn't for Americans?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Unfortunately, people believe the leftist propaganda.
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Cameron143 said:
Unfortunately, people believe the leftist propaganda.
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There's propaganda from both sides. If you go to Fox News you're going to see right wing propaganda. If you go to cnn, you're going to see left-wing propaganda
 
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Cameron143 said:
Unfortunately, people believe the leftist propaganda.
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They do. They also dont understand how Trump will say things to gain an edge dealing with foriegn governments. Does anyone reallybelieve he wants to make Canada the 51st state or buy Greenland? I dont think even the liberals believe it but pretend they do so they can yell and carry on about something. Trump loves toying with the American marxists.
 
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wolfwint said:
Well, what is propaganda? Anti Trump? anti left? Trump is difficult to calculate. If I would be an American,I would vote the Rep. It seems that they are more Christian value orientatet then the Democrates.
But I would not vote for Trump. He is making his own thing. And what is best for Him. But not what is best for the American citizens. And I mean all American citizens.
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Trump has been in what, three months? I don't think that is an accusation you can make in that amount of time. We had Harris, a socialist, or Trump to vote for. If you stay home, the communists win. People have tried to deny she's socialist, now AOC/Bernie are touring the country under the Dem banner and Bernie makes no bones about it, capitalism made him rich, but he's communist. So would you sit home and let communism win or vote Trump? I don't really care, I'm explaining why Americans did vote Trump.
 
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wolfwint said:
And under Trump you have free speech? If you agree with his positions, then yes. But if you not agree, then you should keep better your mouth., if you dont want loose your job.
Or I am wrong?
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You're wrong. You cannot fire someone over free speech. Although Obama did jail a journalist over it. Trump hasn't done that.
 
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seed_time_harvest said:
Some of the people that voted yes for him are regretting voting for him Already.Some lost government jobs,some just didn't think he would come for them.They were perfectly fine with it happening to someone else but Now that it happened to them,they want us to feel sorry for them.
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2% regret voting for him. Pretty small amount. I bet that number was bigger for Biden.
 
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Dude653 said:
The president can try to negotiate for their release but other than that I don't see what else can be done unless you just say you're going to comply or we're going to turn Gaza into a parking lot
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But they can show up in another country and beg for an MS 13 wife beating, human trafficking, illegal alien to be brought back. Gotcha. Priorities.
 
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wolfwint said:
Because the President is no shopowner. According my understanding from a President he has to lead the nation under the point to do the best for the nation.
Of course free speech has his Limits. But is it not a human right?
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No, it's not a human right. There are countries all over the world that don't allow free speech. Even Canada only has limited speech.
 
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If Donald wanted to get Kilmar Abrego Garcia released he could do it quite easily. He could simply tell the president of El Salvador he's stopping all funding to them. Garcia and all the others he deported illegally would be released immediately. But Donald's proud of the fact that he got all those people deported illegally; and he'd rather waste taxpayer money than to admit he made a mistake.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
No, it's not a human right. There are countries all over the world that don't allow free speech. Even Canada only has limited speech.
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Free speech is guaranteed in our constitution. Not every country has that guarantee. Anyone else remember Obama saying the constitution sometimes gets in the way of getting things done?
 
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ResidentAlien said:
If Donald wanted to get Kilmar Abrego Garcia released he could do it quite easily. He could simply tell the president of El Salvador he's stopping all funding to them. Garcia and all the others he deported illegally would be released immediately. But Donald's proud of the fact that he got all those people deported illegally; and he'd rather waste taxpayer money than to admit he made a mistake.
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No Way! Are you saying that people would be too proud to admit they made a mistake! I don't believe it. I'm sure everyone who condemned those who were questioning the origin of the Pandemic, calling them conspiracy cuckoos because they thought it came from a bioweapons lab have now publicly apologized. I am sure that anyone who ridiculed and vilified those who refused to get the vaccine are now publicly apologizing. That is how it works, when people are wrong, they come forward and apologize. There were people who saw Russia massing on the border of Ukraine before they invaded saying "there is nothing to worry about". I am sure they all have since publicly apologized for having been so wrong. For example, I remember after Trump lost the election in 2020 I said publicly that he would be back. Wow, did I hear about that! Everyone assured me in language that cannot be repeated here on a Christian forum that he most certainly would not be back and that I didn't have a clue about what I was talking about. I'm sure they all want to apologize now, no doubt it is on their to do list.

Yep that is how it works. Take Dude for example, yesterday he said that Trump was defying the Supreme court decision that Trump was ordered to "facilitate" the return of this man. So that sparked a discussion, sure enough it was made very clear that it was impossible at this point in time to say that Trump was defying that order. So of course, Dude is planning to apologize today for being wrong yesterday.

Even you now admit that in order to get this man back Trump might have to threaten sanctions or cutting off funding and the Supreme Court has ruled those decisions belong to the President and not to the Supreme Court.
 
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DeanM said:
Free speech is guaranteed in our constitution. Not every country has that guarantee. Anyone else remember Obama saying the constitution sometimes gets in the way of getting things done?
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He wasn't the beginning of the near end but likely the major factor in escalating it. It'll be nice if all of the current investigations flush him out more completely.
 
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