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The Brother is disagreeing with the scholar he mentions by name in the essay.You appeal to unknown bible commentators and scholars,...
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The Brother is disagreeing with the scholar he mentions by name in the essay.You appeal to unknown bible commentators and scholars,...
It was temptation and Yeshua had not eaten anything....was in a weak state, and He answers all questionings with scripture.
Our pattern.
Satan knew who He was.
No old chap. I'm suggesting that Paul got it right. You just can't understand him as you only perceive Paul through the blinkers of the man made Nicene Creed, which is your true bible. Nicea fell to the Turks in 1077, and apart from being temporarily rescued by the Crusaders, has been under the control of Islam ever since. Is God trying to give people a message?So, you're suggesting that Paul got it wrong?
if that was so all one would need do to conger up the devil is to go without eating for 40 days,,shhh,,, don't tell the satanist!
Of course, the Son pre-existed as the Word. Of course, "he" was around at the beginning. But "he" was not in the nature of a "son" in the beginning, but in the nature of God.
I repeat, the notion of a "heavenly" son is absurd. It is a pagan concept deriving from Babylon.
No old chap. I'm suggesting that Paul got it right. You just can't understand him as you only perceive Paul through the blinkers of the man made Nicene Creed, which is your true bible. Nicea fell to the Turks in 1077, and apart from being temporarily rescued by the Crusaders, has been under the control of Islam ever since. Is God trying to give people a message?
im curious how you will see this,,,in matt.4;3 and matt. 4;6,,,the devil ask Jesus a direct question,,,,"if thou be the son of god",,,,now contemplate it in job the devil speaks to god,he was punished in the garden by god,,,,,,,why all of the sudden does he say to Jesus "if thou be the son of god",,as if he does not recognize him?,,,,,
if that was so all one would need do to conger up the devil is to go without eating for 40 days,,shhh,,, don't tell the satanist!
Were the angels sons of God in the heavens before Jesus came ?
Is so why were they not called only begotten Son ?
no,he ask "yea,hath god said,ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?",,,,and again "doth job fear god for nought?,hast not thou made an hedge about him,and about his house,and about all he hath on every side?",,,,and then "if thou be the son of god",,,,,,,,you see in every instance he does not know and must ask first,,he does not know his own sentence,,,,,,
Don't put words in my post. Never said that.
Only one has been begotten of God Daniel.
He is the imrah or the Word of the Lord in the OT. Memrah.
And the hebrews knew Him as such.
"Sons of God" is a term that is exclusively applied to man, never to angels.Were the angels sons of God in the heavens before Jesus came ?
Is so why were they not called only begotten Son ?
Do you think the devil know more bile than the children of God ? Why or Why Not
Matthew 8:29And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Sons of God is a term that is exclusively applied to man, never to angels.
if that was so all one would need do to conger up the devil is to go without eating for 40 days,,shhh,,, don't tell the satanist!
hmmm my bible does not tell me that it tell me angels are also called sons of God
Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
Job 38:1-7
King James Version (KJV)
38 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
How do you come to the conclusion that this is talking about angels when the text does not tell us this?
yes legion knew exactly who he was after the temptation,,,,
[h=3]Matthew 2:13[/h]King James Version (KJV)yes legion knew exactly who he was after the temptation,,,,