Being a pastor is really tough what did you do when you felt this way?

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DRobinson

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There it is, the problem in plain English. If you want a recipe for a weak and ineffective congregation, here's your instructions.
You remind me of the person who always wanted to run the local church, have everything his way. Everybody else was wrong and he was always right.
He always complained about what others did, especially the pastor when it was obvious his knowledge and understanding of Scripture was lacking.
Finally just left.
His leaving was the best thing that ever happened in that church.
 

Gideon300

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So you would not want the most knowledgeable person leading the church?
Why not?
I'll jump in here, if you do not mind. I'll do it anyway!

Knowledge does not necessarily mean spiritual. Neither does being gifted. While a pastor/elder should be able to teach, that individual should also be able to offer wise counsel. Often wisdom comes from experience. I've met tradesmen with no formal bible teaching who know Jesus in a way that puts some theologians to shame. It really is a case of not what you know but who you know.

One of the pastors where I attend knows the Bible intimately, certainly better than me. His preaching bores me to tears. There are others who are less qualified. When they preach, I listen because they have the anointing, not only mental knowledge. I am edified, not bored.
 

Zobia

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As someone in the congregation, I recognize the unique challenges pastors face each day. Beyond the responsibility of guiding and supporting us spiritually, pastors carry the weight of everyone’s needs, which must feel overwhelming. I realize that even wearing traditional clergy attire, with its symbolic expectations, adds to the pressure of always appearing composed and approachable. I feel it’s important to show support and understanding, knowing that it ultimately helps both the pastor and our entire community thrive.
 

ResidentAlien

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So you would not want the most knowledgeable person leading the church?
Why not?
Forgive me if I don't respond further; I'm knowledgeable enough to know when I'm wasting my breath.
 

DRobinson

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I'll jump in here, if you do not mind. I'll do it anyway!

Knowledge does not necessarily mean spiritual. Neither does being gifted. While a pastor/elder should be able to teach, that individual should also be able to offer wise counsel. Often wisdom comes from experience. I've met tradesmen with no formal bible teaching who know Jesus in a way that puts some theologians to shame. It really is a case of not what you know but who you know.

One of the pastors where I attend knows the Bible intimately, certainly better than me. His preaching bores me to tears. There are others who are less qualified. When they preach, I listen because they have the anointing, not only mental knowledge. I am edified, not bored.
I have seen this also.
I would suggest that the lead pastor be replaced by one of the more anointed.
I guess I should have expressed my thoughts better.
Alone with knowledge should be the gift of teaching in such a way to edify those being taught.
The most gifted (in knowledge, presentation, anointing) should lead a church.
Not rule, but lead.
 

brighthouse98

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Being a pastor is one of the hardest jobs ever given by God! Jesus himself proved just how hard it was keeping just 12 disciples!! Fear is the pastors biggest enemy! Because fear bring its best friend with it!! DOUBT!! A pastor will be betrayed by some in the church, the pastor must prevail against it!

He must get rid of the dead weight which he knows in his heart is keeping him from encouraging and helping his flock. A little Leven does what?? You must do your job!! The Lord will be with you to help you in your need for wisdom, all you have to do is ask! Do not despair!! You are the example to the flock!

For as you lead, they should follow willfully! Not as slaves!! But rather as brothers and sisters!! You know what is needed! you have the authority!!!(Luke 10:19) BUT YOU!!! Must take it! This may sound rather blunt to you but as a 71-year-old disciple I know a pastor's work, as well as hardship!
 

Gideon300

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I have seen this also.
I would suggest that the lead pastor be replaced by one of the more anointed.
I guess I should have expressed my thoughts better.
Alone with knowledge should be the gift of teaching in such a way to edify those being taught.
The most gifted (in knowledge, presentation, anointing) should lead a church.
Not rule, but lead.
Yes. And always with the intent to bring people to maturity in Christ. I get the impression sometimes that leaders fear those with the anointing. Some guard the pulpit jealously. Jesus is Head of the church. Some pastors seem to forget that or only pay lip service to the concept.