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Bible Debate:


Can someone be a true Christian and still struggle with the same sin their whole life?


Some point to Romans 7:19 — even Paul admits "the evil which I would not, that I do." Others point to 2 Corinthians 5:17 — "old things are passed away" — and ask why nothing seems to change.


What do you believe? Drop your answer below — and back it up with scripture if you can.
 
Many Christians struggle with sin because they have never been taught that there is victory in Christ.
 
Hello @Yup, first off, since I see that you are a new member here, welcome to CChat 👋:)

As far as "struggling" with sin goes, the key word in your OP for the true believer is found in that word, because that's what we do now, as Christians (even with every peccadillo or foible that we commit as believers, because sinning is no longer what comes naturally to us).

The Bible tells us some helpful things however, like the fact that the Lord, along with not wanting us to sin, is always right there with us in the fight, providing us with ways not to do so .. e.g.
1 Corinthians 10:13.

Granted, the "good fight" is often frustrating, tough and tiring (as we continually REFUSE to accept the tempting thoughts that enter our minds by taking them CAPTIVE to Him, instead .. e.g. 2 Corinthians 10:5). The good news here is also found in the wonderful promise from God that comes along with His command to battle against temptation and sin (found in the following verse),

James 4
7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you :)

The Bible also tells us how important our continual study of the Bible is in this battle (our continual growth in the knowledge and understanding of both Him & His word, that is) .. e.g. Joshua 1:8; Psalm 1:1-3; Romans 12:2; 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Also, as the Bible both asks us and tells us,

Psalm 119
9 How can a young man keep his way pure? By keeping it according to Thy word.
11 Thy word I have treasured/hidden in my heart, that I may not sin against Thee.

So, if you ever become truly frustrated with setbacks and failures in the fight against temptation & sin, the Bible HIGHLY recommends the Christian spiritual discipline known as Scripture memorization, because, as I (and MANY others) can attest, it works :)(y)(y) (and if you'd like more information about it and/or info about how to get started, just send me a PM as I would be happy to help .. just to be clear, I'm talking about memorizing verses and passages, not entire Books or Epistles or the entire Bible, itself ;)).

God bless you!!
(1 Thessalonians 5:23-24)

~Deuteronomy

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One last thing to remember (@Yup) is that the "love" that God has for us (those of us who are, or who will become, His children, that is) is just like He is, from everlasting. IOW, He has always known you and loved you, and He always will :)

He also knew everything about you, then, LONG before He chose to justify and save you, everything that you would say and do, and every sin that you would go on to commit (even as a believer), but He chose to save you (and me) anyway, in spite of that knowledge (amen).

So, no worries, yes :) After all, He chose to die for us so that He wouldn't have to live w/o us, nor we w/o Him, in the eternity to come :giggle:
(Romans 5:8-10). He also promised to make us more and more like His Son for the balance of our lives here, and to see us safely through this life to be with Him in Glory .. e.g. Philippians 1:6; Hebrews 7:25.

God bless you!!
(Numbers 6:24-26)

~Deuteronomy

 
I wanted to share this verse today — Matthew 28:19-20 (King James Version):


"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."


This one hits home for me. It's a reminder that sharing faith isn't optional — it's the calling. Just wanted to put it out there today. It is why I have these name
 
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Bible Debate:


Can someone be a true Christian and still struggle with the same sin their whole life?


Some point to Romans 7:19 — even Paul admits "the evil which I would not, that I do." Others point to 2 Corinthians 5:17 — "old things are passed away" — and ask why nothing seems to change.


What do you believe? Drop your answer below — and back it up with scripture if you can.
(Saul,"Paul" said) "Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me."

2 Corinthians 12:7
 
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Bible Debate:


Can someone be a true Christian and still struggle with the same sin their whole life?


Some point to Romans 7:19 — even Paul admits "the evil which I would not, that I do." Others point to 2 Corinthians 5:17 — "old things are passed away" — and ask why nothing seems to change.


What do you believe? Drop your answer below — and back it up with scripture if you can.
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

1Co 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

1Co 13:5 thinketh no evil;
1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth.

When a person is saved they become a new creature and old things are passed away.

If a person abides in the truth there is no struggle with sin for they do not have a desire for sin but have a desire for the ways of God.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

But some people do not come to the truth because they will not let go of the flesh.

Which they cry I struggle with sin and we cannot abstain from sin.

But they want an excuse because they really want to enjoy sin denying the Spirit leading them but think they are saved.

Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Paul is not saying he is struggling with sin and not saying he is sinning.

But when he does good he is still tempted to do evil.

But that which he will do according to the flesh which is good he does not do.

But that which he would not do according to the flesh which is evil that he does.

So if the flesh desires something he does not do it.

And if the flesh opposes something that he does.
 
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Yes but where not perfect there was only one that born die and came back that is with out sin so no matter what we are sinners till death in the flesh we can build that relationship with are Lord and each of use but we will need him every step of are journey I know my weakness and it's only by Grace of Jesus I'm set free from my sins on earth
 
(Saul,"Paul" said) "Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me."

2 Corinthians 12:7
That's how I feel I pray and I read scripture I believe by faith and I know satan will attack all my weakness every time I speak of these I Rember the scripture of God's armour and I know I can't stop putting it on because I'm tested and he will test the believers harder so I can't say I'm perfect like Jesus I thrive to be like him only by his grace am I saved not by my own doing
 
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